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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 778

UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/13/2010 10:08:04 PM | message detail
Yay more match pics.



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/13/2010 10:08:26 PM | message detail
Sora > Mario train choo choo
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/13/2010 10:08:26 PM | message detail
Knuckles on red backgrounds > Thou
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/13/2010 10:09:18 PM | message detail
Magus > Sonic
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/13/2010 10:09:39 PM | message detail
Don't even try denying how awesome this looks: http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2475/knucklesb.jpg

Knew it wouldn't get picked, but I loved making it.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/13/2010 10:10:23 PM | message detail
If Knuckles got that pic I think I would have to change my write-up for the Analysis Crew.
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Meeks54 | Posted 1/13/2010 10:12:00 PM | message detail
Ulti killed it....as usual That match pic would have been epic. I guess SB did not use it because he did not consider it Knuckles, but still.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/13/2010 10:15:53 PM | message detail
I wonder if that gets used if I give it a red background. Too late now, but still.
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voltch | Posted 1/14/2010 7:10:01 AM | message detail
so was that knight knux, or knuckles knight?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2010 7:49:20 AM | message detail
Predict the 2010 x-stats. Predict as many characters as you wish!

1. Link 50%
2. Cloud Strife 46%
3. Sephiroth 43%
4. Solid Snake 40%
5. Samus Aran 37.5%
6. Crono 36%
7. Mario 35%
8. Megaman 31.5%
9. Squall Leonhart 31%
10. Vincent Valentine 30.5%
11. Tifa Lockhart 30%
12. Auron 29.5%
13. Pokemon Trainer Red 29%
13. Megaman X 29%
15. Sonic 28.5%
16. Sora 28%
16. Ganondorf 28%
18. Cid Highwind 27.5%
19. Zack Fair 27%
20. Zelda 26.5%
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 9:05:21 AM | message detail
Magus will be at 60% 5 minutes into it and with Alucard as an opponent, that'll be too much a percentage gap for even Magus to blow.

SLOWFLAKE'D
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voltch | Posted 1/14/2010 9:07:05 AM | message detail
slowflake would probaly back charizard like mad though, I heard his pokerants are pretty well known.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2010 9:08:22 AM | message detail
Man, it's the last day (or 2nd to last day), and there's still matches I'm 50/50 on: Liquid/Altair and Charizard/Kratos.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 9:10:59 AM | message detail
Charizard/Kratos is a worthwhile one to rack your brain about, especially since the winner likely defeats Block (especially Charizard). I never once thought about trusting Altair.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 9:12:13 AM | message detail
I'd be more concerned about Liquid/Vivi than Liquid/Altair.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 9:12:40 AM | message detail
And Kratos definitely beats L-Block. He beat it easily in 2007 back before it got bandwagoned like crazy.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/14/2010 9:15:02 AM | message detail
charmander6000 | Posted 1/13/2010 1:27:14 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3726&region=USXWY

Based on the ties it looks like nobody is from Wyoming.


Least populated US state, so that's why.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 9:15:38 AM | message detail
Thanks for that, Luster.
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Xuxon | Posted 1/14/2010 9:20:46 AM | message detail
There's still a lot of matches I'm not happy about in my bracket. The main thing being I don't really have any big upsets, since I switched to Sora and Sonic winning their divisions.

A weird one is Ness vs Big Daddy. My gut was Big Daddy, and I still have him, but any way I analyze it, Ness looks better.
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voltch | Posted 1/14/2010 9:23:46 AM | message detail
Tranny's motto is never trust Ness, though that worked well with CJ, but I'm banking on a combo of brawl deboost and bioshock 2 flavour to help big daddy edge it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 9:25:58 AM | message detail
You never know what you're going to get out of Ness, but I'd rather pick against him than pick him. I don't think I've ever picked him to win anything!
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2010 9:29:02 AM | message detail
I'm not supporting Ness any more than I have to (against Geno). I'm tried of him burning me and giving the lil' guy the benefit of the doubt.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 9:29:32 AM | message detail
Remember that you actually play as a Big Daddy in Bioshock 2. I'm taking Ness regardless, but if you're hung up about that match, you may as well take the character who's starring in a new game that releases right around match time.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 9:30:15 AM | message detail
Oh right, I do have Ness > Geno, regrettably.

If Geno somehow burns him and pulls the upset, I won't be disappointed though!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 9:31:11 AM | message detail
Gentlemen, your unabashedly transparent hatred of Ness might sway me, for I too hate Ness!
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voltch | Posted 1/14/2010 9:31:36 AM | message detail
Tidus/Sub-zero is the big one for me, in every debated tidus match I've always chosen WRONG.
Picked shadow against him, picked him against ganondorf, picked him against kirby, it never ends well for me.
I picked Tidus this time, please Dissidia! Help Meeeeeee!
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Xuxon | Posted 1/14/2010 9:33:35 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #023
Remember that you actually play as a Big Daddy in Bioshock 2. I'm taking Ness regardless, but if you're hung up about that match, you may as well take the character who's starring in a new game that releases right around match time.


Wow, I didn't even know this. I guess that seals it.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 9:35:30 AM | message detail
Hell, it seals it for me as well.

**** YOU, NESS.
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voltch | Posted 1/14/2010 9:36:37 AM | message detail
anti-Ness Bandwagon choo-choo!
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2010 9:36:54 AM | message detail
Hey, I like Ness, but just not that much...plus Lucas effectively replaced him for me.

It's his history I hate!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 9:38:10 AM | message detail
And in unrelated news, I like how close TP is to Brawl despite Wind Waker's presence in the poll. I still say TP has a shot if it's 1v1, especially now that we're almost another year removed from Brawl.
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voltch | Posted 1/14/2010 9:39:41 AM | message detail
though in 20 years when we look back it'll be like man, the Wii dominated the end of that decade.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2010 10:13:00 AM | message detail
Aw yeah Brawl Deboost. Give it a few more years and Melee will 80-20 Brawl like it deserves!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2010 10:19:10 AM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2010 10:19:55 AM | message detail
I wonder how an "I've never played any of these" or an "Other" option would do in a poll like this. It'd be bound to do poorly, but I dunno if it would go low enough to keep SMG from being in last.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/14/2010 10:22:04 AM | message detail
I know this match doesn't mean much in the scheme of things but anyone taking the Captain Falcon > Riku upset pick?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/14/2010 10:22:44 AM | message detail
Is the contest starting tonight?

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Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/14/2010 10:25:39 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #023
Remember that you actually play as a Big Daddy in Bioshock 2. I'm taking Ness regardless, but if you're hung up about that match, you may as well take the character who's starring in a new game that releases right around match time.


Bioshock comes out on Feb. 9th

Ness/Big Daddy is on March 3rd I believe.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 10:28:06 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #037
Is the contest starting tonight?


Tomorrow night.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 10:28:17 AM | message detail
Having a game launch three weeks before match time is very lucky. Most characters would kill for that.

From: KamikazePotato | #037
Is the contest starting tonight?


Doubt it, not with brackets still open until Friday. I guess it's possible for brackets to close at the precise moment Link/Thrall begins, but that's never happened before, has it?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2010 10:29:10 AM | message detail
Didn't the rules page say they're closing at 7 PM PST tonight?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2010 10:29:40 AM | message detail
The rules page changed. Now it says brackets close at 7 PM tomorrow night.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/14/2010 10:29:41 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #041
Didn't the rules page say they're closing at 7 PM PST tonight?


Friday night.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2010 10:30:19 AM | message detail
I'm still doing everything (Bracket, Guru, Oracle, etc.) as if the contest were starting tonight though.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2010 10:30:31 AM | message detail
Well damn
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 10:31:00 AM | message detail
34.5 hours then
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/14/2010 10:32:35 AM | message detail
Ness will still probably be around where he's always been, but I wouldn't hope for a "deboost" in order to take BIg Daddy over Ness. I'd just say Big Daddy gained rather than Ness dropping.

If Big Daddy is indeed playable (as in, main character playable), then I'd consider him the favorite.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2010 10:44:20 AM | message detail
Bad thought: what if SB had a final-00s poll and we ended up with FFX/RE4/GTA:SA in a poll tomorrow? FFX would continue its reign of looking better than it really should and GTA:SA would have made it past at least three more deserving Nintendo-titles.


Another thought: if we just took the five most recent GotY-games and had a poll with them, could RE4 take first? Could it take third?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3505

For reference.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/14/2010 10:46:38 AM | message detail
RE4 would easily win that, especially if it was a GotY poll.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 1/14/2010 10:47:09 AM | message detail
From: Dilated Chemist | #038
Bioshock comes out on Feb. 9th

Ness/Big Daddy is on March 3rd I believe.


Assassin's Creed Came out a month ago and is still #9 in the Top 10 Games list. Getting a game 3 weeks before the match is massive, especially when you're the main character of said game.

Info for those that don't know, the premise for Bioshock 2 is that it's set 10 years after the original, you are the original Big Daddy, the prototype. There are plenty of other Big Daddies running around as well, holding their original pseudo-miniboss roles.
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