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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 777 (All Lucky 7s Edition!)
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2010 12:57:49 PM | message detail |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2aVkFk9nOw As well as some special love for red sox 777 in this topiX! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 12:58:34 PM | message detail |
Thanks Ulti! Crono > Link let's do this. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
voltch | Posted 1/12/2010 12:58:58 PM | message detail |
ITT we all gonna be hitting the jackpot. --- Shakes Fist! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2010 1:12:23 PM | message detail |
I don't recall topic #4 ever being dedicated to me! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
GunMage | Posted 1/12/2010 1:35:28 PM | message detail |
Jackpot! |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2010 7:08:25 PM | message detail |
Just deleted my topic -- overlooked this one, whoops. And when we ditch numbers and get to Part HRRH, I expect accolades! --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/12/2010 7:41:44 PM | message detail |
I don't recall topic #4 ever being dedicated to me! Were you actually around on this board back when topic #4 was made? --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 7:44:29 PM | message detail |
Topic 4 was SC2K3 Part 3, so it didn't actually have "part 4" in the title. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/12/2010 7:56:54 PM | message detail |
I call topic 96! ...Hey, it's not up on NGamer's site! What's up with that, TRE? Hmph, I'll try 86... From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/24/2004 12:00:31 AM | Message Detail Vincent, easily. There's no way he's a low as KOS-MOS. Hm. If 96 has Vincent debates I don't want it anymore. From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/24/2004 12:21:15 AM | Message Detail I don't think anybody would argue that Vincent is on the level of Mario, but you'll probably see estimates from 40% on up. Simply put, he's not worth wasting in an 8/9 or 7/10 match. Make him the low seed in a 4 pack and have him work to get to the Sweet 16. What the hell, I was totally against Vincent, I think someone stole my account and time traveled or something. And was Vincent or Kerrigan the low seed? --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2010 8:15:40 PM | message detail |
Kerrigan was the 4 and Vincent was the 5. From: -LusterSoldier- | #007 I've been here since 2003, so the only topic I haven't been around for was the very first one in 2002. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
HeroicYoshi | Posted 1/12/2010 8:18:09 PM | message detail |
Wait, so I have only 43 more topics then. Whoop! --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 1/12/2010 8:54:30 PM | message detail |
Not sure if this has been discussed yet, so I offer this to you guys. What are your thoughts on a Bowser > Sora upset? --- Elephant Talk: A New Kind Of Music Blog! http://elephantmusictalk.blogspot.com/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2010 8:56:57 PM | message detail |
From: Masato_Tanaka | #012 Not betting on it, personally. Bowser's been on the decline in recent years. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 8:57:05 PM | message detail |
With
a second game Crono must be twice as strong because 1 + 1 = 2 and two
is twice as much as one. Crono for championship. This logic is flawless. Just you wait until Crono gets a real second game! --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2010 8:57:29 PM | message detail |
Not sure you want to be on the same page as a guy who picked Alyx Vance > Lara Croft! I had that match in mind when I said it, haha. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 8:58:00 PM | message detail |
Better dedicate Part 6000 to me. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/12/2010 8:59:51 PM | message detail |
ready for some dragon age domination --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:00:46 PM | message detail |
Anti-MW2 board vote? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:00:51 PM | message detail |
where did dragon age get a board vote from --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:00:56 PM | message detail |
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 21.79% 17 Dragon Age: Origins 41.03% 32 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 37.18% 29 what --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:00:58 PM | message detail |
Vote Accepted Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 21.33% 16 Dragon Age: Origins 42.67% 32 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 36% 27 TOTAL VOTES 75 Dragon Age domination indeed! --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
paulg235 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:01:04 PM | message detail |
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 17.39% 8 Dragon Age: Origins 36.96% 17 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 45.65% 21 TOTAL VOTES 46 What a colapse from MW. --- The Gamer In Me "Ike and Ash and co. saw a Yoshi and didn't catch it" - Mer telling us his dream |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/12/2010 9:01:11 PM | message detail |
what the dragon age --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:01:15 PM | message detail |
woah all 3 games tied at 75 votes for a second --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/12/2010 9:01:59 PM | message detail |
The only thing that I've heard when it comes to Bowser/Sora is how well they did against Crono & Mega Man. Crono > Mega Man and I'm on the side believing that Crono might've overperformed just a tad bit against Bowser. And oh, look at U2 failing to dominate Dragon Age. The Boss > Drake. --- GT: TriggerTRE When life gives you lemons you get some tequila! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:02:08 PM | message detail |
i think we're in for a good match today, boys. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:02:12 PM | message detail |
where did dragon age get a board vote from When nobody liked MW2 and Uncharted 2. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:03:47 PM | message detail |
So, if Dragon Age still does its usual rise after the board vote........epic 3-way battle for Game of the Year? --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
SonicRaptor | Posted 1/12/2010 9:03:58 PM | message detail |
One
thing I've noticed from MW2 for a while is there is a sliver of CoD's
fanbase that collectively backlash against the game. You'd be
hard-pressed to find a single reason from them for why (I have a friend
who hasn't been able to really tell me why he hates the game aside from
"the weapons don't feel right."). I think it's mostly hype backlash
myself, it's a solid game and should get more respect in the coming
year. They all agree Captain John Price is a badass and I cannot disagree with fact. --- ...Just repeat to yourself / It's just a show / I should really just relax... |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:04:14 PM | message detail |
Also lol at yesterday's poll failing to out vote the multiplatform poll. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:05:24 PM | message detail |
Also holy vote totals. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:05:27 PM | message detail |
come on Unchaaaaarted come on --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:06:00 PM | message detail |
At the freeze: Uncharted 2 is 1 vote behind Modern Warfare 2. Dragon Age holding on to 30%. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2010 9:06:18 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3726®ion=PH Dissidia's a hoss. If this action today keeps up (it didn't yesterday, but who knows), B:AA may have a claim for GotY. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:06:34 PM | message detail |
This may be a better goty poll then last year... And hmm. What if Uncharted 2/MW2 finish super close? think we'll get a final final vote like last year? --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/12/2010 9:08:33 PM | message detail |
If Dragon Age does this, I will poo golden bricks. It would also mean THE GOD DAMN BATMAN can be kinda sorta considered the strongest game of the year. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/12/2010 9:09:01 PM | message detail |
Damn you Harr. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:09:46 PM | message detail |
remember, dragon age was at like 12.3% or so at the freeze yesterday, and ended up 4% higher. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:10:29 PM | message detail |
Half
expecting Dragon Age to collapse next update here, but man, it only got
36.59% on MW2 yesterday. If it somehow turns around that
margin.....just wow. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:10:48 PM | message detail |
Dragon Age also didn't get the board vote yesterday. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:11:23 PM | message detail |
Well, it didn't collapse- actually went up. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2010 9:11:43 PM | message detail |
If
MW2 wins this poll, there's no need for a FINAL-GotY like last
year...but it probably won't come to that, either. If MW2 is beaten
though, that could mean we miss the GotD-poll for certain, don't have a
contest-poll, or see the contest delayed. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/12/2010 9:11:49 PM | message detail |
Bah,
looks like it may not go on its patented upswing today. I think
GameFAQs is trying to rebel against MW2 but haven't really played or
cared about the two other games in the poll. This is unquestionably the
weakest GotY finals we've ever had. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:12:01 PM | message detail |
Half
expecting Dragon Age to collapse next update here, but man, it only got
36.59% on MW2 yesterday. If it somehow turns around that
margin.....just wow. It's more proof that GotY polls don't show true game strength let alone character strength. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/12/2010 9:12:04 PM | message detail |
game of the year polls are officially weird as hell --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2010 9:12:43 PM | message detail |
LOL Boss There's been like, 4 polls now clearly foretelling this "upset". --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.· "As always Ulti, I bow to thou wisdom." -Meeks54 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2010 9:12:55 PM | message detail |
Well, if I can't have topic 4, I'll take topic 44 and 444! What gems will I find within? Oh man, part 44 is Hayabusa/Jill! Oh hey, we were debating Hayabusa/Chief even back then! Heck, we were debating Hayabusa/Luigi! Poor Weegi. Huh, someone proposed a 128 character contest with 2 matches per day back in 2004! I'm getting nostalgic seeing some old users who don't post here anymore! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/12/2010 9:13:01 PM | message detail |
This proves that having more than 2 in a poll screws everything up. 4-way battle data will be the bain of your bracket's existence! KING KOOPA WILL RULE AGAIN! --- GT: TriggerTRE When life gives you lemons you get some tequila! |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2010 9:13:06 PM | message detail |
Bah,
looks like it may not go on its patented upswing today. I think
GameFAQs is trying to rebel against MW2 but haven't really played or
cared about the two other games in the poll. This is unquestionably the
weakest GotY finals we've ever had. 2k5 had RE4, God of War and Mario Kart DS. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/12/2010 9:14:10 PM | message detail |
GTA: San Andreas was a huge game back then... how come CJ couldn't beat Ness? --- GT: TriggerTRE When life gives you lemons you get some tequila! |