GameFAQs Contests

My Magus picture was used, and Bacon used my idea for the R3 sprite template. I'm rather happy at the moment.



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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isn't lff really just a subeffect of sff applied to 4-ways? they both do worse because they have the same fanbase.

my first post ever in one of these topics!
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mreow
spork for president - metroid composite

My Alucard > Your Magus

Accept it!
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

who the **** submitted the priceless price pic?
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From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/11/2010 8:15:35 PM | #003
My Alucard > Your Magus

Accept it!

My bracket surely accepts it.
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isn't lff really just a subeffect of sff applied to 4-ways? they both do worse because they have the same fanbase.

Yeah, they're the same thing, but people like to use both terms to avoid confusion about what exactly they mean.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

From: transients | #492
I am floored that people are using this picture to condemn Red. wasn't a Brawl picture expected? he's very clearly a Pokemon trainer and has a pokeball in his hand. seriously, what's the problem here? that he's not a crappy GBC sprite and therefore no one will vote for him? if people will only vote for him based on a crappy oldschool picture then people don't like him in the first place. if he loses, it's because he sucks, not because of a picture.

No one cares about a generic pokemon trainer. Brawl pic does create a disconnect from Red, as the PT in Brawl is meant to be seen as more of a generic all-encompassing trainer.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

No one cares about a generic pokemon trainer.

And Red isn't...?
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

This was really much better as a 500 post, but I'm posting it here anyway:

Round 1: Crono over Missingno with 77%
Round 2: Crono over Yoshi with 72%
Round 3: Crono over Sephiroth with 50.05%
Round 4: Crono over Tifa with 65%
Round 5: Crono over Snake with 55%
Round 6: Crono over Cloud with 51%
Final: Crono over Link with 50.01%
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

damnit Leon we've been over this

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

red sox, I can't believe I'm saying this, but Crono over Tifa with 65% is by far the craziest of those predictions.
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PT people are weird.
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If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer!

Link would beat Tifa with much more than that, so no, it isn't.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

I know we've been over it, but I still don't get the difference. Oh well. I'm sticking with Red, and if I lose points over it, I won't care because Ocelot won!
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"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
"Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!"

Anyone else taking Auron > Squall?

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GT: TriggerTRE
When life gives you lemons you get some tequila!

And Red isn't...?

And there's the stem of all of the arguments.
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From: red sox 777 | #013
Link would beat Tifa with much more than that, so no, it isn't.

No he wouldn't. 35% on base Link sounds about right for Tifa, if not a bit low.
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Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism

yeah, I am clearly missing something if you think the RBY Pokemon trainer is something different from all the rest of them. either I'm an idiot or you need to get over 1998 Pokemon.

here we go again
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xyzzy

No one cares about a generic pokemon trainer. Brawl pic does create a disconnect from Red, as the PT in Brawl is meant to be seen as more of a generic all-encompassing trainer.

Really, because all I see in that picture is Red. I mean, I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I don't memorize every tiny detail in Red's design...

Actually, that's just sarcasm and I'm with just about every Pokemon fan out there. There's no difference between Red and Brawl Red other then one being in 3D.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

From: Dilated Chemist | #015
Anyone else taking Auron > Squall?

Only silly people like HaRRicH and Soul.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

Red is the main character of RBY.

PT is a pokemon trainer in Brawl. I know he's sort of supposed to be Red, but I just don't get that feeling with him. I'm half-tempted to vote Ocelot, 'cause I definitely don't like Brawl Pokemon Trainer more than him.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Why would anyone care about a Pokemon Trainer though....?

It's all about the Pokemon, right?

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GT: TriggerTRE
When life gives you lemons you get some tequila!

I'm half-tempted to vote Ocelot, 'cause I definitely don't like Brawl Pokemon Trainer more than him.

Do it!

In fact, let's rally the entire board to do it because we hate what this thing represents: A generic Pokemon trainer!
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

And Red isn't...?

And there's the stem of all of the arguments.

The only difference between Red and the other trainers is that he starred in RBY. Guaranteed that if you throw any other Pokemon Trainer into this contest they would be equal to, or just very slightly weaker than Red.
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Good Times,
Great Memories

Vincent and Crono both failed to get 35% on Link in 2007, and they weren't even close either. Mario couldn't do it in 2008 either, although you can blame SFF if you want. Vincent barely broke 35% in round 2 of 2007, with Zelda in the poll.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Why would anyone care about a Pokemon Trainer though....?

It's all about the Pokemon, right?


We have a winner.
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And by the way guys, if you're doubting Red to beat Ocelot, why were you so adamant on Red beating MMX before?
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Good Times,
Great Memories

Okay this topic has already degenerated into a circlejerk

See you all in four days

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Didn't Zack break 30% on Link 3 times?
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

Why would anyone care about an Ocelot though...?

It's all about the Snakes, right?

btw this is 100% true on GameFAQS
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a circlejerk? it's a picture of a Pokemon trainer. I'm saying that the picture doesn't matter at all and that nothing has changed!
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xyzzy

And by the way guys, if you're doubting Red to beat Ocelot, why were you so adamant on Red beating MMX before?

I guess you weren't here during the Red debates.
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By the way the best result would be Red beating Ocelot 70-30 so the Red/X debates will never end!
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Because Ocelot actually has character traits.

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GT: TriggerTRE
When life gives you lemons you get some tequila!

Okay this topic has already degenerated into a circlejerk

See you all in four days


This has nothing to do with that crap.

You were extremely confident in Red, and now you think he's going to lose because he got a fresh pair of clothes in his picture. That doesn't make any sense at all.
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Good Times,
Great Memories

If Red loses to Ocelot because of a picture, he wasn't beating MMX in the first place.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

Didn't Zack break 30% on Link 3 times?

Yes, and that's seriously impressive. Remember that there is a pretty big difference between 30% and 35% though- more than 57/43.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Red was never going to beat MMX.

Crazy people!

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GT: TriggerTRE
When life gives you lemons you get some tequila!

B-B-B-BUT THAT'S NOT RED! THAT'S A POKEMON TRAINER WITH THE STARTERS FROM RED AND BLUE! THAT'S LIKE SAYING METAL GEAR SNAKE IS SNAKE!


WHICH HE ISN'T! SO I'M GONNA VOTE FROG INSTEAD!
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If Red loses to Ocelot because of a picture, he wasn't beating MMX in the first place.

If Red loses to Ocelot it's because he was weaker than even I thought he was. Picture has nothing to do with it.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

I'm just saying for the ones who were calling for Red > MMX and are suddenly feeling doubtful of Red > Ocelot because of a picture.
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

I don't think KP or I were ever confident on Red beating X. It's an upset special, and I know he's said as much before. I agree that it makes no sense to suddenly think he'll lose because of this picture. If Red is going to be contending with X, he has to be so far above Ocelot that he'd win if he got the worst picture in contest history.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Let's get away from Red and talk about Pikachu/Snake sprite round.

Anyone feeling the upset?
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

From: XxSoulxX | #043
Let's get away from Red and talk about Pikachu/Snake sprite round.

Anyone feeling the upset?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2551

No.
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

I'd sooner pick Red over MMX than Pikachu over Solid Snake.
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xyzzy

I'd sooner take Sora ove-

oh, right.
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Red was never going to beat Ocelot in the first place.

And for the last time, RED AND BRAWL POKEMON TRAINER ARE THE SAME GUY. Jesus Christ.
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All you love is a lie.

Or let's talk about Auron/Squall...

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GT: TriggerTRE
When life gives you lemons you get some tequila!

And for the last time, RED AND BRAWL POKEMON TRAINER ARE THE SAME GUY.

No, they're not! One's a generic Pokemon Trainer in Brawl! The other's a generic Pokemon Trainer who happens to be the avatar for RBY!
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

I always thought Pokemon Trainer Red was Ash Ketchum. =\

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GT: TriggerTRE
When life gives you lemons you get some tequila!