GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 774
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/6/2010 9:11:57 PM | message detail |
This might be the worst set of GOTY polls this site ever runs. 2009 was so bad. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ If you establish wrist control you can quickly rob the bank. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/6/2010 9:13:19 PM | message detail |
It's sad that most of the games I want these days come out on handhelds. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Big Bob | Posted 1/6/2010 9:14:04 PM | message detail |
Assassin's Creed II, Batman, and Borderlands in the multiplatform poll will make up for everything. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/6/2010 9:15:01 PM | message detail |
NSMBW was fun, and I hear good things about Uncharted 2, Batman, AC2, and DA:O. Doesn't seem that bad a year to me. --- Not Wylvane |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/7/2010 8:29:13 AM | message detail |
Eh, real gaming is dying. Has been for a long time. --- "Not everybody is a perfect person in the world. Everyone kills people, murder people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever." -Ohio State |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/7/2010 8:32:05 AM | message detail |
Probably still about 60/40. That's about what she got when they me in 2007. Megaman was in that match though, so Samus can probably do a couple percentage points better than the 41% she got twice. And now that I look at that match again, wow did Megaman look bad. Just 39% on Samus and 31% on Cloud? The Noble Nine should be really thankful the last 2 contests have been 4-way. Interestingly enough, Megaman did less than half a percent worse on Snake the next year than on Samus in 2007, even with Zero in the poll against Snake. I'm not really sure what to make of that. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
ZFS | Posted 1/7/2010 8:32:16 AM | message detail |
Holy Star Ocean. What happened here. --- the journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 8:53:30 AM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #007 The ToS factor --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/7/2010 8:55:01 AM | message detail |
SO4 had very mixed reviews. Which I think shows how strong this poll is. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/7/2010 9:06:09 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #005 Best gen since the 16-bit games IMO. Don't really like most of the games of the previous two gens, but now the technology has led to some amazing games. Fallout 3 is easily my biggest favorite game this decade, and Galaxy is also very high up there. Plus NSMBW looks to be the next 2D Mario game I've wanted since the early 90's, based on the first two worlds or so. Plus there's a lot more awesome games out there, including downloadable games on the consoles and a rise of indie games thanks to services like Steam. HD-level graphics, online play, huge depth, amazing physics, and all that while making the games as fun as ever, if not moreso. This gen is ****ing awesome. --- Not Wylvane |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 9:07:27 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #010 This 100%. Anyone who doesn't like this gen has their nostalgia tinted glasses on. Everything is great this gen. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/7/2010 9:09:34 AM | message detail |
Nostalgia > This generation --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/7/2010 9:09:46 AM | message detail |
This
gen is very good so far, and I haven't even touched the PS3 yet. I
still have that to look forward to, as well as Nintendo's second wind
with their Big 3. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/7/2010 9:10:29 AM | message detail |
In all honesty, nostalgia > most things. --- Yoblazer: http://i29.tinypic.com/dqhyf5.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 9:11:05 AM | message detail |
Also maybe this gen is a bit too westernized for some people. But if you like Western games its fine. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 9:12:30 AM | message detail |
Megaman was in that match though Doesn't matter. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
ragnarox | Posted 1/7/2010 9:12:42 AM | message detail |
Nostalgia?
But I've mostly been playing PS2 games I never played before. That's
not nostalgia, that's just this generation being terrible. |
ZFS | Posted 1/7/2010 9:12:47 AM | message detail |
This
gen has been half and half. Some good, some bad, not anywhere near as
good as the last one, but not terrible. The original games have been
great, not so much for sequels. --- the journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/7/2010 9:20:23 AM | message detail |
Doesn't matter. Tell that to Yoshi 2005! --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 9:24:19 AM | message detail |
Yoshi more like LOLshi --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 9:28:43 AM | message detail |
Yoshi more like beating Crono round 2 --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 9:29:27 AM | message detail |
Crono more like losing to Missingno Okay, not really --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
redrocket | Posted 1/7/2010 9:53:42 AM | message detail |
This 100%. Anyone who doesn't like this gen has their nostalgia tinted glasses on. Everything is great this gen. I'm not going to touch the argument of where this generation as a whole stands, but I hope we can at least agree that this year was awful. Easily the single worst year for gaming since the Crash. --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 9:57:49 AM | message detail |
From: redrocket | #023 Not the worse year since the crash, but one of the worst since then. 2008 was amazing though, and 2010 is looking to be amazing so its okay. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
redrocket | Posted 1/7/2010 9:59:34 AM | message detail |
Not
the worse year since the crash, but one of the worst since then. 2008
was amazing though, and 2010 is looking to be amazing so its okay. What year(s) would you call worse? --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 10:00:28 AM | message detail |
From: redrocket | #025 2005 and 1995 come to mind. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
LOLContests | Posted 1/7/2010 10:02:15 AM | message detail |
Eh,
as someone who hasn't gamed barely any during this gen, from
appearances alone Last Gen >>>>>>>>This Gen. But I think that Last Gen was probably the best of all time, so what do I know. --- "Heh, heh...The wind...it is blowing."--Ganondorf This is Yesmar. |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/7/2010 10:21:00 AM | message detail |
1995 has Chrono Trigger, Albion. That's an instant win over a year like this one. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 10:21:18 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #028 Oh seriously? I thought it was 1994 for some reason. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/7/2010 10:23:48 AM | message detail |
2005 had RE4 and God of War. What about 1993? I can't think of anything outside Link's Awakening. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/7/2010 10:26:52 AM | message detail |
Oh
wait, 1993 also had Doom and the original Star Fox, which actually
kinda hurts that year in my eyes. I'd rather have a random 2009 game
selected for me than play some of 1993's "best." --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 10:28:28 AM | message detail |
1993: Doom Super Mario All-Stars Link's Awakening Myst Star Fox Virtua Fighter (Had a blast playing this one at the arcades) Secret of Mana Kirby's Adventure Jaguar and 3DO were released that year, too. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/7/2010 10:29:03 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #030 Thing is, that's all 2005 had. At least 2009 has a lot of decent games, even if there weren't any killer apps besides MW2. I still think this year is decent, even if it doesn't measure up to the last two years, since 2007 and 2008 raised the bar pretty ****ing high. --- Not Wylvane |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 10:29:10 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #032 If those weer the best games of the year, then 2009 beats it. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
Xeybozn | Posted 1/7/2010 10:29:11 AM | message detail |
1993
had a lot of good games for Genesis: Gunstar Heroes, Shining Force II,
and Phantasy Star IV all came out that year. On the other hand, none of
those are Sonic, so who caress? --- Congrats to KrahenProfit |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 10:30:46 AM | message detail |
Well, I just looked up 1993 Video Games on Wikipedia, and those are the major ones it listed. Also, Blaster Master 2 and a Maniac Mansion sequel. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 10:31:08 AM | message detail |
From: Xeybozn | #035 PS4 and Shining Force 2 were 1994. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2253 Wow at 2005. Yeah, that was a bad year --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/7/2010 10:34:12 AM | message detail |
I
honestly think more people would have viewed 2009 favorably if they had
owned a PS3. All trolling aside, its exclusives clearly won the year.
Uncharted did get legitimately touted as a Game of the Generation
contender, and Demon's Souls was apparently very good. Ratchet and
Clank is also a series that usually delivers (at least judging by its
PS2 installments), and inFamous was received well. Despite that, it was
still a year that the multiplats won with games like SFIV, Batman, RE5,
MW2, Dragon Age, and AC2. That's some good quality. I don't think 1993
competes. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
draarrowgant | Posted 1/7/2010 11:03:11 AM | message detail |
I
always love these nostalgia posts... perhaps the most biased review in
gaming. You can take a look at many franchises... FF, Zelda, Mario- and
when people state their favorites, even if they have played them all, generally you can guess when they started gaming by what they state is their fav. I accepted this long ago and decided to take a more objective appreciation of games. I used to wonder why I couldn't *enjoy* games as much as I used too- then I realized it was the nostalgia factor. At almost 30, and with 22 years of gaming, games just wont have that cool oh-em-gee factor they did when I first popped in SMW on the brand new SNES... or the first real FF7 cutscene I saw on PSX. This Gen rocks every other gen to date- both on individual levels and holistically once you take out the nostalgia factor. Nonetheless my fav games will almost certainly have games like Fallout 2, SimEarth, FFIII, and... Oregon Trail. |
ragnarox | Posted 1/7/2010 11:08:11 AM | message detail |
I say this gen is terrible. Favorites, respective to the franchises you listed: X-2, The Wind Waker, Galaxy. Guess when I started gaming. |
voltch | Posted 1/7/2010 11:53:22 AM | message detail |
1993, Xcom was such a good game. --- Shakes Fist! |
Cecil XIX | Posted 1/7/2010 12:53:15 PM | message detail |
voltch Posted 1/7/2010 2:53:22 PM message detail 1993, Xcom was such a good game. Yeah, that game will be on "Top 10 PC Game" lists until the end of time. --- Wow, an intelligent criticism of Zeta. Never thought I'd see the day. - AmuroNT1 Congrats to Krahenprophet for his well-deserved victory. |
voltch | Posted 1/7/2010 12:56:43 PM | message detail |
tis soooo damn hard though. --- Shakes Fist! |
Big Bob | Posted 1/7/2010 12:58:17 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VI is an outdated piece of crap. **** nostalgia. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 1:06:42 PM | message detail |
I always love seeing the Halo asv in action. .40% in like 35 minutes. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/7/2010 1:23:24 PM | message detail |
I really doubt it, but I'll ask: is ODST hurting Halo Wars much? --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 1:24:23 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #046 Why do you really doubt it? Its obvious, Halo Wars is being curb stomped by Halo 3 ODST SFF here. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 1:27:14 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3367 And heres my proof. It doesn't go from beating Star Ocean to being quadroupled or whatever it is now without SFF --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/7/2010 1:28:45 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
but Halo Wars is an RTS...very different from the rest of the
Halo-series, and considering that ODST isn't looking very respectable
in comparison to its competition, I don't know if Halo Wars would break
10% if ODST was removed. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 1:29:49 PM | message detail |
Its
a Halo side game, the only people who played it are Halo fans... and a
Halo 3 FPS ranks higher on the Halo heirarchy then a RTS game. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Lolicon Fanboyism |