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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:33:36 PM | message detail
In fact, if we put RBY as GOTY for 1996 instead of Mario 64

Why would you do this


To give a non-OOT/FFVII game a chance of winning of course. I guess you could make a case for CT and MW2 as well, but CT probably overlaps too much with everything to take too much advantage of the massive Zelda and FF SFF flying around, and MW2 just isn't strong enough.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:33:37 PM | message detail
Pokemon RBY has no buisness being ahead of Super Mario 64, especially when it came out in 1998 in North America.
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LOLContests | Posted 1/6/2010 9:33:50 PM | message detail
What would GOTY for '93 be? The others seem pretty obvious (SMB3/SMW/LttP/FFVI/CT/SM64/FFVII/OoT)

Doom? He probably wouldn't want everything from that time to be all SNES, and I can't really think of any Genesis games that could go in that spot (Sonic 3 came out several weeks too late)
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:35:03 PM | message detail
Oh, it looks like it did come out in 1998. Well, that's not happening then.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 9:35:29 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/6/2010 9:35:34 PM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #453
What would GOTY for '93 be? The others seem pretty obvious (SMB3/SMW/LttP/FFVI/CT/SM64/FFVII/OoT)

Doom? He probably wouldn't want everything from that time to be all SNES, and I can't really think of any Genesis games that could go in that spot (Sonic 3 came out several weeks too late)


Links Awakening?
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LOLContests | Posted 1/6/2010 9:35:41 PM | message detail
Link's Awakening probably is the most popular game from '93 though, tbqh.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 9:36:43 PM | message detail
Here's my best shot at a list (putting perceived current strength above actual GotY performances):

1990 - Super Mario Bros. 3
1991 - Super Mario World
1992 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
1993 - The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
1994 - Final Fantasy VI
1995 - Chrono Trigger
1996 - Super Mario World
1997 - Final Fantasy VII
1998 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
1999 - Final Fantasy VIII
2000 - Final Fantasy IX / Majora's Mask
2001 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
2002 - Kingdom Hearts
2003 - The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
2004 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
2005 - Resident Evil 4
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
2007 - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
2008 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2009 - ???

Ocarina and FFVII still massacre that poll. In fact, all the earlier games would get SFF'd so badly (with the possible exception of Chrono Trigger) that MGS3, RE4, and CoD could end up fighting for third place.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 9:37:24 PM | message detail
Sorry, I had Vice City as the strongest 2002 game the first time around. Point and laugh!
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LOLContests | Posted 1/6/2010 9:39:42 PM | message detail
The Sims would probably get the spot for 2000 too, just to stop all of the FF/Zelda dominance.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/6/2010 9:41:13 PM | message detail
I'd probably take LoZ:MM > FF9 for 2000. I'm also discounting CoD4 being a contender for third if MW2 wins this year's GotY, and the same goes for RE4/MGS3 if they affect each other like we thought they might have in last year's BGE2.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 9:46:03 PM | message detail
Although it's much more likely we get something like this:

2000 - Final Fantasy IX
2001 - Final Fantasy X
2002 - Metroid Prime
2003 - The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
2004 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2005 - Resident Evil 4
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
2007 - Super Mario Galaxy
2008 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2009 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Can FFX contend with CoD if IX is thrown in there as the 2000 entrant?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:46:09 PM | message detail
Give me FFVII for first pretty easily with that list. It's only got 3 FF games to deal with while OOT's got 4 Zelda games, but more pressingly, if we extend this out to companies, FFVII's got only 5 Square games to deal with while OOT has to fight off 9 Nintendo games. If we have Majora's Mask instead of FFIX, the numbers before even more lopsided.

CT's the big favorite for #3, though it may have a shot at beating OOT for 2nd, especially if Majora's Mask is there. CoD4 stands out a lot as long as MW2 doesn't win 2009, but I don't think MGS3 and RE4 stand out enough to make up for them just not having the strength to contend for 3rd. KH could also do some damage- it should be the most independent of the Square games. Maybe it should even be the favorite for 3rd.

It's within the realm of possibility (especially with MM instead of FFIX) to have the top 3 go FFVII, CT, KH, with poor OOT beaten under a crushing amount of LFF (from strong games, mind you) That would be hilarious, but the downside would be people wouldn't shut about about how this is SquareFAQs and Cloud always wins for about 5 years even as Link and Zelda win every contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/6/2010 9:46:58 PM | message detail
Heh, KH would get crushed there.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:50:10 PM | message detail
Heh, I just realized that KH is about equal to RE4 in strength, so is RE4 wouldn't be contending for 3rd, neither should KH.

But, you know what? I stand by what I said. I think KH would be more independent than RE4 in a 20-way poll like that. I don't think a lot of that KH ASV has even played a Final Fantasy game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/6/2010 9:51:08 PM | message detail
I think KH would be more independent than RE4 in a 20-way poll like that.

This is just crazy.

I don't think a lot of that KH ASV has even played a Final Fantasy game.

So why didn't Sora beat Squall with Cloud in the poll again?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:52:19 PM | message detail
Well, Squall is a stronger character first of all, and Cloud and Squall are both in KH.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 9:52:25 PM | message detail
How about this?

Gaming Year of the Decade

2000 - Final Fantasy IX, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Diablo II
2001 - Super Smash Bros. Melee, Final Fanasy X, Halo
2002 - Kingdom Hearts, Metroid Prime, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
2003 - The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Star Wars: KotOR, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
2004 - Metal Gear Solid 3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcraft
2005 - Resident Evil 4, God of War, Guitar Hero
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Final Fantasy XII, Gears of War
2007 - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Super Mario Galaxy, Halo 3
2008 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metal Gear Solid 4, Fallout 3
2009 - ???

2001 destroys?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/6/2010 9:53:22 PM | message detail
And for the record, don't take Squall/Sora and FFX/KH as indication that KH doesn't get SFF'd. For one, they're 4-way polls (which I guess is relevant in this discussion), but games/characters similar in strength often don't SFF very much or very hard. FFVII and Cloud are different stories.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/6/2010 9:53:55 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #467
Well, Squall is a stronger character first of all, and Cloud and Squall are both in KH.


Yeah, but Squall should get SFF'd harder by Cloud than Sora should if KH is that independent, right?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:54:02 PM | message detail
Yep, 2001 wins. 2008 probably comes in second.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 9:57:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Squall should get SFF'd harder by Cloud than Sora should if KH is that independent, right?

But Sora did do better against Squall when Cloud was in the poll, just not by enough to win. Throw in a few more FF characters (probably just one in this case considering how close they were), and Sora's got it. And the other thing is that as Cloud and Squall are both in KH, Sora's not going to stand out as much as KH would against FFVII and FFVIII.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/6/2010 9:59:38 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Sora's the main character. He's going to get the better end of the SFF there from people who've only played KH, which I'd imagine isn't that large of a group.

But the point is, KH isn't that independent. It's not getting 3rd place in that poll under any circumstances.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/6/2010 10:01:33 PM | message detail
Does Star Ocean have a 4chan rally or something?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/6/2010 10:04:19 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #474
Does Star Ocean have a 4chan rally or something?


Why would it?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/6/2010 10:05:22 PM | message detail
Well, being the main character doesn't guarantee you anything (thinking of Tidus and Auron), and Cloud is clearly a character whose design the site loves. I understand the argument that RE4 should suffer less from LFF in this poll than KH, but my gut feeling is that in a 20-way poll like this, KH will shine. RE4's going to overlap with everything, including FFVII, OOT, and those other high level Nintendo games. I think there's a segment of that KH ASV, a small segment, that's really really independent, and a small segment is all you need in a poll like this where 10% may get you 3rd.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 10:07:06 PM | message detail
Star Ocean is the only Eastern/RPG title on that list apart from Magna Carta 2 and Ninja Blade, both of which seem to be awful fodder. I guess I can see it doing well based on that and the combined weakness of all options.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/6/2010 10:07:13 PM | message detail
2000 - Final Fantasy IX, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Diablo II (Pokemon Gold/Silver could arguably win, actually)
2001 - Super Smash Bros. Melee, Final Fanasy X, Halo (MGS2 maybe?)
2002 - Kingdom Hearts, Metroid Prime, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
2003 - The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Star Wars: KotOR, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time (I'd still take FFX-2 > PoP, or SC2)
2004 - Metal Gear Solid 3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcraft (snubbed the actual GotY [GTA:SA] completely? Ouch!)
2005 - Resident Evil 4, God of War, Guitar Hero (maybe MKDS...otherwise good)
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Final Fantasy XII, Gears of War (KH2 and Oblivion!)
2007 - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Super Mario Galaxy, Halo 3 (Orange Box > Halo 3)
2008 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metal Gear Solid 4, Fallout 3 (fine)
2009 - ???

That'd be a good poll to see though, whatever the options.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/6/2010 10:09:09 PM | message detail
Damn, what's with me forgetting about Kingdom Hearts tonight? I'm supposed to love the series!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/6/2010 10:10:17 PM | message detail
I voted for Star Ocean cuz I actually liked it. I put over 100 hours into it, and mmm loli catgirl
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redrocket | Posted 1/6/2010 10:15:32 PM | message detail
I voted for Star Ocean cuz I actually liked it. I put over 100 hours into it, and mmm loli catgirl

How does it compare to SO3?

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/6/2010 10:17:26 PM | message detail

From: redrocket | #481
I voted for Star Ocean cuz I actually liked it. I put over 100 hours into it, and mmm loli catgirl

How does it compare to SO3?


SO3 is still better, but SO4 is enjoyable enough
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/6/2010 11:46:54 PM | message detail
We're getting close to a SO4 cut... ODST only gained 10 total votes the last 2 updates combined
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/6/2010 11:51:31 PM | message detail
And there we have it, a 2 vote cut by SO4 over ODST

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AmazingKirby | Posted 1/7/2010 12:03:24 AM | message detail
Albion likes SO3!? I thought you hated everything good. And I thought you hated Eastern RPGs?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 12:03:49 AM | message detail
Does Star Ocean 3 have a loli?

If so, there's your answer.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 12:05:28 AM | message detail
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Star Ocean lolis ftw
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 12:11:28 AM | message detail
But seriously, what jrpg these days doesn't have at least one loli

they know how to pander to their audience
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AmazingKirby | Posted 1/7/2010 12:13:22 AM | message detail
Do you like Peppita? She's my favorite. ^_^
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 12:13:48 AM | message detail
Let's see...

FFVIII, I guess...?

Although they're all technically underage except for like Quistis.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 12:14:40 AM | message detail
I didn't like Peppita cuz of the whole ganguro thing.

Albel Nox is my favorite from Star Ocean 3. He's soooo dreamy.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 1/7/2010 12:17:02 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, Albel's dreamy. I just like Peppita for her personality. Actually, I like every SO3 playable except Roger. And maybe Adray. Best overall cast in a game ever.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/7/2010 12:18:20 AM | message detail
Roger is the typical annoying little boy. I don't know why so many games have them. They never add anything to it.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/7/2010 6:12:10 AM | message detail
I'm calling it now.

Dissidia > ODST.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/7/2010 6:22:21 AM | message detail
Interesting Sora/Tifa conversation, but I'd have to go with Tifa really.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/7/2010 6:39:16 AM | message detail
Wonder how the Xbox ASV will split.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/7/2010 8:08:19 AM | message detail
So what sort of percentages are we expecting for Samus against Cloud (there's a match that's gotten virtually no discussion!) Does she do better than in 2004, and by how much?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 8:10:29 AM | message detail
Probably still about 60/40. That's about what she got when they me in 2007.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/7/2010 8:10:38 AM | message detail
When they met, that is.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/7/2010 8:11:23 AM | message detail
Crono > Sephiroth
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