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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 772

UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:29:20 AM | message detail
People are jumping the gun way too much over a poll that might only get 60k votes. Let Uncharted 2 prove itself in the actual GOTY poll before assuming it has any strength. It is still only a PS3 exclusive, and it's not even in the top 5 in PS3 FAQ views.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/4/2010 10:31:35 AM | message detail
I think the PS3 exclusive argument died when PS3 ownership became comparable to Xbox360 ownership.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:32:34 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #302
I think the PS3 exclusive argument died when PS3 ownership became comparable to Xbox360 ownership.


I think it died the second MGS4 was a monster in the game contest
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/4/2010 10:33:26 AM | message detail
I think it died the second MGS4 was a monster in the game contest

But Metal Gear has already been proven to be a monster franchise; that says more about Metal Gear Solid than it does about PS3 exclusives.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:34:54 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #304
I think it died the second MGS4 was a monster in the game contest

But Metal Gear has already been proven to be a monster franchise; that says more about Metal Gear Solid than it does about PS3 exclusives.


people were arguing early on it couldn't be as strong as the other games due to being a PS3 exclsuive though
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:35:16 AM | message detail
MGS4 wouldn't have come close to SSBB if it was just going off of franchise votes.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/4/2010 10:36:33 AM | message detail
Well you could make a good argument for franchise votes playing a huge part considering it crapped to Brawl in a neutral poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/4/2010 10:38:08 AM | message detail
Big difference between MGS4 and Uncharted.
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transience | Posted 1/4/2010 10:38:46 AM | message detail
franchise loyalty is a huge plus for Metal Gear Solid. people were into that game for a good reason - it was a continuation of a series they were devoted to. if you rename Metal Gear Solid as something else, it gets destroyed by Brawl.

that said, it has strength as its own entity as well. it isn't just blind loyalty, though people bought it due to blind loyalty.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:38:48 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 1/4/2010 1:32:34 PM | #303
I think it died the second MGS4 was a monster in the game contest


If you think MGS4 = Brawl entirely on its own strength, I don't know what to say to you. And yes, I'm aware the reverse also holds true with Melee carrying Brawl to a good amount of strength.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/4/2010 10:40:35 AM | message detail
I wonder how bad RE5 is going to look. Gaming only got cooking in October this year (not counting Batman), and games from earlier in the year already feel so old.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:40:57 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #308
Big difference between MGS4 and Uncharted.


yeah like a 9% difference
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/4/2010 10:41:14 AM | message detail
MGS4 was one of the reasons to buy the more expensive PS3, good thing 2009 changed all of that.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:42:08 AM | message detail
You know what this whole argument reminds me of? "CRASH WILL WIN BECAUSE HE HAS MAINSTREAM APPEAL, HE'S IN ALL THOSE HOSPITAL COMMERCIALS AND STUFF"

And then this happens: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1311
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:42:21 AM | message detail
Big difference between MGS4 and Uncharted.

No one is comparing the two. MGS4 made a lot of people buy PS3s. Therefore, you can't say that Uncharted 2 is a weak game, and you can't compare Drake from last contest to Drake from this contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/4/2010 10:42:34 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #312
yeah like a 9% difference


Which is a pretty big difference in a multi-way poll.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/4/2010 10:42:45 AM | message detail
yeah like a 9% difference

.. Huh?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:42:50 AM | message detail
Even if Drake is only as strong as Naughty dogs last character, Jak, I'd still take him over Boss.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/4/2010 10:43:16 AM | message detail
No one is comparing the two.

You have Albion on ignore, don't you?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:43:24 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #317
yeah like a 9% difference

.. Huh?


in last years best ps3 game poll, MGS4 got liek 53%, and Uncharted 2 has 44% this year
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:43:33 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 1/4/2010 1:40:35 PM | #311
I wonder how bad RE5 is going to look. Gaming only got cooking in October this year (not counting Batman), and games from earlier in the year already feel so old.


Hopefully it completely bombs. Only RE0 is worse in that series.

I really tried liking it, but basing an entire game around co-op gameplay is just moronic, even for Capcom.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/4/2010 10:44:27 AM | message detail
in last years best ps3 game poll, MGS4 got liek 53%, and Uncharted 2 has 44% this year

But the competition isn't exactly the same. You can't just cross compare them like that.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:44:31 AM | message detail
I'm expecting RE5 to bomb. Like, 6-8%.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/4/2010 10:45:20 AM | message detail
Franchise voting alone should keep RE5 in double digits.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:45:50 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #322
in last years best ps3 game poll, MGS4 got liek 53%, and Uncharted 2 has 44% this year

But the competition isn't exactly the same. You can't just cross compare them like that.


Last years also had 2 less games, so even if its a tiny bit better competition, two less games more then makes up the difference in percentage for uncharted 2 vs. mgs4
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/4/2010 10:46:03 AM | message detail
Franchise voting alone should keep RE5 in double digits.

Not in this multiplatform poll.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 10:46:08 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #324
Franchise voting alone should keep RE5 in double digits.


It got 1% in the gamespot goty poll. you're overestimating re5
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/4/2010 10:46:33 AM | message detail
two less games more then makes up the difference in percentage for uncharted 2 vs. mgs4

Well, if it makes you feel better, you can take out Comet Crash and Cross Edge from this one and give their extra percentage to Uncharted.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/4/2010 10:47:14 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #320
in last years best ps3 game poll, MGS4 got liek 53%, and Uncharted 2 has 44% this year


Yes well MGS4 helped that poll draw 74K votes let's see what Uncharted gets yes let's wait and see
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/4/2010 10:48:33 AM | message detail
Yeah, MGS4 finished with more votes than this entire poll has right now. Uncharted probably finishes with just more than half the votes MGS4 got last year.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 10:55:47 AM | message detail
You have Albion on ignore, don't you?

After seeing these gems: "yeah like a 9% difference" and "Even if Drake is only as strong as Naughty dogs last character, Jak, I'd still take him over Boss", I wish I did.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/4/2010 10:58:38 AM | message detail
The Boss wouldn't exactly blow Jak away either unless you think he took a turn for the worse.

Then again why are we comparing Nathan Drake to Jak?
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transience | Posted 1/4/2010 10:59:27 AM | message detail
because NAUGHTY DOG SFF
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 11:01:46 AM | message detail
Then again why are we comparing Nathan Drake to Jak?

Ask Albion.

Anyways, I wish people would stop comparing Uncharted 2 with MGS4. MGS4 would completely embarrass Uncharted 2 in a poll.

The reason why I brought up MGS4 is to compare old Drake to new Drake. New Drake will be a hell of a lot stronger then old Drake just because the PS3 is widely owned these days, and more people have been introduced to the Uncharted franchise. MGS4 is a major reason for this.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 11:02:54 AM | message detail
The Boss (2007c) VS Jak (2007c)

The Boss has a strength of 18.50.
Jak has a strength of 18.91.

Jak wins with 51.08% of the vote!
A win of 2,922 with 134,760 total votes cast.


Saying I'd take Jak over the boss is crazy? Really?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 11:05:03 AM | message detail
Yes, because Jak wouldn't beat The Boss. No one cares about cartoony platform characters not named Mario/Sonic. The Boss is much more recognizable here, and would smoke Jak pretty easily.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 11:06:06 AM | message detail
Nobody cares about a bottom tier MGS character, either. I'd take any other MGS character over Jak and Drake, but Boss is really quite pathetic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 11:08:03 AM | message detail
And you seem to forget that the Boss nearly lost to another cartoony platform character. Losing to Jak wouldn't be unprecendented, especially since I'd take Jak over new Tails as well.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 11:08:14 AM | message detail
Are you saying Jak isn't?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1738
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2878

Stop comparing Jak and Drake btw, you're somehow hurting my argument for the guy.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 11:09:04 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #339
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2878


And I'd also take HK-47, Lloyd, and Ness over the Boss

you're seriously overrating her just because she's in MGS.
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voltch | Posted 1/4/2010 11:09:25 AM | message detail
naughty dog the new capcom, drake's on dante level now.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 11:10:30 AM | message detail
I'm not overrating her. If she fought anyone with strength she would lose. Jak/Ratchet/Crash/Clank/Spyro, none of these characters have any strength whatsoever, and just for being in MGS she would get enough votes to win against those scrubs.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 11:12:49 AM | message detail
And here, if you want to make a worthwhile comparison, compare CATS (the year he beat Drake) to The Boss the same year, and to The Boss last year.
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voltch | Posted 1/4/2010 11:13:16 AM | message detail
all these sony platformers being so utterly weak, damn sackboy's gonna join them soon.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 11:14:44 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #342
I'm not overrating her. If she fought anyone with strength she would lose. Jak/Ratchet/Crash/Clank/Spyro, none of these characters have any strength whatsoever, and just for being in MGS she would get enough votes to win against those scrubs.


We've seen nothing to say that low tier characters in major series get a lot of franchise votes. If so, then Kefka wouldn't constantly bomb, Midna wouldn't be embaressed be beaten by Frog, and Wario wouldn't be a laughinstock

Just being from a major franchise means nothing if people don't care about you
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/4/2010 11:15:06 AM | message detail
I think it's still silly to use the xstats (what were they even based on?) in four ways as if they're going to tell you who'd win one on one.


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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2010 11:16:01 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #346
I think it's still silly to use the xstats (what were they even based on?) in four ways as if they're going to tell you who'd win one on one.


I'm just using it to show that Jak/Boss isn't an obvious one sided match like some people were saying.
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voltch | Posted 1/4/2010 11:16:05 AM | message detail
I don't there even was an xstats formed for the last 4 way battle.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/4/2010 11:16:18 AM | message detail
Just being from a major franchise means nothing if people don't care about you

And nobody cares about Jak, which is why franchise votes are even more important in fodder matches.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/4/2010 11:17:23 AM | message detail
We've seen nothing to say that low tier characters in major series get a lot of franchise votes.

Again, you're misunderstanding me. When you've got two characters that no one cares about/knows, the more popular character will usually win. The Boss, just by being in MGS, would give her the win over those other characters, but if she fought someone like Scorpion she'd most likely fold.
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