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Since she had bodyguards to do everything for her

With Aeons, Yuna's the most powerful character in the game by far. Plus, you kind of have to have at least one guardian, and she doesn't have 5 guardians because she's weak.

and i remember countless scenes it sounded like she was stuttering

Why do people fail to separate Yuna from Hedy Burress?
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Why do people fail to separate Yuna from Hedy Burress?

her voice is still part of her character. Obviously she was told to stutter a lot and be all shy and passive.
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Yuna doesn't "stutter," unless you have a completely different idea as to what the word means. She's shy, and there's nothing wrong with that.

And the whole game is about Yuna doing her pilgrimage on her own because she chooses to. Yuna passive? Give me a break. The only reason the game even finishes the way it does is because of Yuna's drive.
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plus, my biggest issue with FFX yuna is she was always all depressed, while FFX2 Yuna was upbeat. I dont like emo and depressed characters generally (which is why I hate Squall), I prefer upbeat characters
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Yuna is an extremely driven individual in FFX. o.O

Anyway, she's losing to Zack IMO.

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Yuna wasn't depressed either. She's a very serious character and sometimes she gets discouraged (and anyone would doing what she has to do), but she's hardly depressed.

If upbeat characters are your thing, that's fine. I'm not arguing that. You're wrong about how Yuna is in FFX though.
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I like Yuna's character in FFX, even if her voice actress kind of sucked at her job. FFX actually did a good job with its story and characters. Don't know why they did a 180 with FFX-2, but whatever.

Though Squall doesn't have any real justification for being an anti-social ***** other than thinking that everyone else in the world besides him is an idiot, which to be fair is pretty true.
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I only played FFX once, like back in 2002, but all I remember about Yuna is she constantly had to have tons of guardians around her while every other summoner had only 1, and constantly stuttered in scenes. not exactly a good impression of her to remember.
I liked Rikku more because she was always upbeat and cheerful, and didnt make me feel sad like yuna did
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Again, when does she stutter? Her VA has a tendency to make her sound robotic at times, but she doesn't stutter.

And Yuna doesn't "have" to have tons of guardians around her. She addresses why she has so many in the game, and it's not because she needs that many.
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From: LeonhartFour | #159
Again, when does she stutter? Her VA has a tendency to make her sound robotic at times, but she doesn't stutter..

I can't remember exact scenes, cuz like I said, its been 8 years, but just I remember often times she would stumble over words or stutter. Maybe it was the voice actresses issue, but I do remember it and it was painful to listen to her talk at times

And Yuna doesn't "have" to have tons of guardians around her. She addresses why she has so many in the game, and it's not because she needs that many

I know, I know. They're her "Friends"

good luck getting through the entire game with just 1 guardian though, so yeah, she needed them
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but all I remember about Yuna is she constantly had to have tons of guardians around her while every other summoner had only 1, and constantly stuttered in scenes

hey, uh, look which summoner actually succeeded and which were total redshirts

She's obviously way smarter than the ones with one burly guy or their two brothers.
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good luck getting through the entire game with just 1 guardian though, so yeah, she needed them

The reason she has 5 guardians is because the game doesn't want to have only two playable characters. That's all.
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Why didn't more summoners just bring like fifty guardians with them? You'd think that guardians have devolved to little more than dick-measuring contests between summoners, like that one skank with the musclehead.

If anything, Yuna's smart in dragging along six people rather than one or two. Don't know why they take turns fighting in three's, but whatever.
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Braska and Yocun has two each, and technically Isaaru had two if you count Pacce! But yeah, she was pretty unusual in having such a large posse of guardians. In a way it makes her seem less passive - challenging convention and all that jazz.

Anyway, why Zack > Yuna:

Last time out Zack put up 20.82% with Link, Mario and Mega Man X in the poll. Year before that (Yuna's last contest match >.>), she put up 18.63% on Ganon, Luigi and Master Chief. It'd take a pretty big fanbase swing towards Yuna given the choice to swing that across, considering Link and Mario are pretty much straight-up stronger than Ganon and Luigi, unless you think MC affected Yuna?

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From: LeonhartFour | #162
good luck getting through the entire game with just 1 guardian though, so yeah, she needed them

The reason she has 5 guardians is because the game doesn't want to have only two playable characters. That's all.

but really, FFX is one of my most liked FFs (its in my bottom half) so its more my disdain for the game then really how bad yuna is, probably. i dont like any of the characters in that game outside of Rikku and Jecht
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good luck getting through the entire game with just 1 guardian though, so yeah, she needed them

Every character in FFX can solo the game, and pretty easily in some cases.

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the reason she has five guardians (5? there's uh... 6... who doesn't technically count as a guardian?) is because she had three of them and then picked up a handful of people along the way. She didn't like set out with the plan "I'm going to have six guardians", she just ran into a few people she had met before/was sort of related to/was Tidus
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FFX would've been better if there were more scenes of Jecht physically abusing Tidus or at least showing Tidus his huge shlong while laughing at Tidus for how he could never compare to his father's girth.

Actually, a dick-measuring contest between Tidus and Jecht would've been pretty great. Did that ever happen in Dissidia?
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Are there seven playable characters? For some reason, I was thinking there were only six.

1. Yuna
2. Tidus
3. Wakka
4. Rikku
5. Lulu
6. Auron
7. Kimahri

Yep, seven. My mistake.
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yeah, the best parts of FFX were definently Jecht abusing Tidus

I totally loved it cuz Tidus deserved it all for being such a crybaby
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Oh right, I forgot about Kimahri
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I liked how Yuna chose Tidus just because she wanted to jump his inferior-to-Jecht's bones.
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From: Not_Wylvane | #172
I liked how Yuna chose Tidus just because she wanted to jump his inferior-to-Jecht's bones.

and people call her slutty in x-2
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I didn't think Tidus was that bad. I thought it was hilarious how he ends up stuck in a radically different world and the most important thing he cares about is kicking ass at Blitzball.

I still laughed every time Jecht caused him psychological damage, though. Between him and Laguna, FF mains' fathers are probably the best characters of the whole series, even if the SNES dads kinda pale in comparison to Laguna and Jecht's badassery.
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #173
and people call her slutty in x-2

I doubt Yuna got around much sexually prior to meeting Tidus. She was obviously repressed and ****, and she didn't know how to react with her weird-ass crush on Seymour. Hell, the fact that she had a crush on Seymour at all is proof that she was a virgin before she met Tidus.

Of course, then **** happens and Yuna's psychological problems over losing the guy who gave her sex turned her into a raging slut boning every guy she sees.

Truly the most tragic story of FFX.
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I never played FFX-2, but I always thought the game as of what happens to characters after they saved the world.
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eh, i think kimahri had some of her
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Like Kimhari ever got laid.
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what in god's name is wrong with you people stop responding to him

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30% on Link is about Aerith level. Or at least at one point. Who knows where Aerith is anymore.

You know who else is on Aerith's level? Yuna.

Yeah, Aeris was at 30% on Link......back in 2003. If Yuna is on Aeris's level, it certainly wasn't that Aeris. Yuna's disastrous last place by far finish against MC, Luigi, and Ganondorf in 2007 after she closed 2006 on such a high note was one of the first strong arguments for Last Place Factor, I remember.

What does it take to get 30% on Link nowadays? Consider the famous Link/Crono/Vincent/Zero match in 2007: Vincent got 32.43% and Crono got 31.20%. There may have been some minor LFF between them that wasn't completely offset by LFF between Link and Zero (whether or not it exists), but you get the picture. Yuna's only hopes in this match are:

1. Zack's strength was somehow bolstered by 4-ways.
2. rSFF
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Any one think sprite Kefka (like the one he got against Wesker in 2005) would give him the win over Arthas?

Comparing Kefka/Wesker between the villains and the regular 2005 contest would give sprite Kefka 57/43 clown Kefka.
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And Yuna wasn't depressed or emo.....the opposite of it if anything.
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Disastrous? That's a big overstatement.

Zero's performance against Link, Crono, and Vincent was disastrous, and that was one of the first strong arguments for Last Place Factor. Yuna lost by 4% to Ganon and 5% to Luigi. I know LFF and all, but what's so disastrous about that? Besides, I'm not arguing that Yuna's in the same league as Luigi and Ganon 'cause she isn't, obviously. I'm just saying I wouldn't take Zack to beat either one of them one-on-one either.
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Yeah 35% on Master Chief when he was getting 47.5% on Snake was pretty good.
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From: red sox 777 | #183
And Yuna wasn't depressed or emo.....the opposite of it if anything.

I agree she wasn't depressed, but she was far from the opposite. Hell, she's in the middle, with Wakka, Tidus, and Rikku being uber-optimistic while Lulu, Auron, and Kimahri were the downers of the group. Yuna was not really in either group, and that balance just makes her a more intriguing character compared to, say, Wakka who's only memorable for his racism and single-handedly defeating the greatest immortal terror of the entire world with a Blitzball.

I want to see Wakka in a contest now. He's like Barrett meets Zell meets Steiner in a gay sauna and they had so much gay sex that they somehow spawned a baby, and then smashed a ball against its skull over and over.
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Not Wylvane

Yuna put up 45.33% on Ganondorf and 44.24% on Luigi in this match even with LFF helping her, a year after putting up 42.98% on Zelda. I found it very disastrous. Perhaps my expectations were too high, but still, there's a very strong argument for Last Place Factor there. I guess it's also possible that Yuna overperformed on Zelda in 2006 due to the Female Bracket being weird (and hey, Tifa did come very close to beating Samus the day before, so perhaps the FFXII release boost was real, just delayed a bit!).
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 1/1/2010 7:53:30 PM | #152
Why do people fail to separate Yuna from Hedy Burress?

her voice is still part of her character. Obviously she was told to stutter a lot and be all shy and passive.

You are so clueless on this it's not even funny. She was not told to stutter; the voice actor and localization team were simply idiots. It was Burress's first ever voice job, and of course she was going to suck at it. Between that and how lazy the localization team was, you end up with perhaps the worst dub ever made. They quite literally recorded and recycled "Yes!" for a ton of scenes, which is one of many rush jobs.

Take Wakka's voice actor, i.e. the same guy that voices Bender on Futurama. An actor with his voice talent doesn't sound like crap unless he's being rushed, and he was clearly being rushed. The entire voice work in FFX save a few minor parts and Auron all scream "We have a deadline, move it".

But regardless, I don't think Yuna is beating Zack. Casuals love voting for people who did well the prior contest. I can't even remember if Yuna made the field in 2008.
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Plus, we seem to be taking Zack's strength for granted. I don't even know what strength he has. I really don't. None of his matches told me much of anything. Beating the crap out of his first round fourpack was great, but what did it teach us? That Zack isn't a total flop, and he has decent strength.

In the second round, he doubled Zidane and advanced to round three. What did that teach us? That FFVII > FFIX and Zidane's still basically fodder/low, low midcard. Nothing we didn't already know.

His round 3 match was good, but what do we know about Duke's and Altair's strength? Not much. They're weaker than Marth, but stronger than Kefka, which isn't great. Zack got 60% on the Duke that round. Could Yuna do that? I wouldn't be surprised. Yuna got 60% on Chun-Li, and I'd consider Duke/Chun-Li to be a close match, though I don't know who'd win.

Obviously, we can't take much from round 4 because of the triple LFF. He did a fine job where he was, but I'm almost positive Yuna would've advanced to round 4 if you put her in Zack's spot last year, and I don't know if Zack gets any further than Yuna did if he's in her place in 2007.

I just think this match isn't as obvious as everyone seems to think it is. Yuna doesn't need rSFF to win. I'm not entirely convinced that Zack beats Aerith by a large margin. I know some people think that's crazy, but I'm not convinced they're that far apart.
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I can't even remember if Yuna made the field in 2008.

She didn't.
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Yeah 35% on Master Chief when he was getting 47.5% on Snake was pretty good.

That's not good enough when we're comparing her to a character that's worth 30% on Link, and it stacks up poorly to every performance we've seen from Aeris too (the other character we were comparing her to). And I'm not really holding that match against Yuna, because of Last Place Factor of course. Zack's actual contest performance still wipes the floor with hers though- and yes I would take him over Luigi.
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That's not good enough when we're comparing her to a character that's worth 30% on Link

And worth 60% on the Duke and Wario, characters in the same range as Chun-Li, I'd imagine.

and yes I would take him over Luigi.

Well then, you and I are in different places. Luigi gets more than 60% on Duke though, I'd imagine.
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Yuna got 65% on Liquid Snake, clearly worth more than 60% on Duke Nukem!
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From: The n00b Avenger | #194
Yuna got 65% on Liquid Snake, clearly worth more than 60% on Duke Nukem!

And Liquid beat Luigi twice last year!

It's obvious now!
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I agree she wasn't depressed, but she was far from the opposite. Hell, she's in the middle, with Wakka, Tidus, and Rikku being uber-optimistic while Lulu, Auron, and Kimahri were the downers of the group. Yuna was not really in either group, and that balance just makes her a more intriguing character compared to, say, Wakka who's only memorable for his racism and single-handedly defeating the greatest immortal terror of the entire world with a Blitzball.

I didn't mean uber-optimistic as the opposite of depressed/emo. I meant that she is in full control of herself, and if very determined to do what she has chosen to do. I see her as similar to say, Link or Crono in that regard. And I didn't find Wakka or Tidus optimistic either.....really, no one was that optimistic in that game, which is quite understandable given the theme of its world.
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You know what else is great?

Yuna and Rikku beat Magus, and easily at that.

Aw yeah
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Talking about FF7 characters

how would guys like Reno and Rufus do, you think?
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They'd beat Cecil.
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Wait, when did Yuna or Rikku beat Magus?
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