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PS3 is never ever catching 360 in America. Worldwide is possible though
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Does anyone see any argument for Cecil to win? I'm pretty much ready to switch to Knuckles since he's done better than I thought he originally did. Rikku isn't exactly fodder, Yoshi was SFF'ing him, and Vaan was/is fodder in 2007. He was stuck with SFF'ed Zelda and Mario in 2008 whereas Cecil was stuck with Zack SFF'ing him, not to mention Rydia actually looking pretty decent that year.
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New and Old Square don't really affect each other IMO.

Rydia may have done better than expected, but she still only got 30.68% on Auron. Kain was able to get 40.84% on Master Chief. How much stronger do you think Cecil is from those two?
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Cecil got about 27% on Zack. He also got about 25% on Kirby in 2005.

Kunckles' xstat value in 2005 was 13% higher than Ce- you know what, I just answered my own question. Cecil will be lucky to break 40% in that match.

As for how much stronger, directly, Cecil easily beats both. Indirectly, probably barely stronger than Rydia.
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With the huge jumps for the PS3 and PSP, Sackboy > Kratos Aurion looks even better. That's a pick I'm really surprised hasn't gotten more steam.
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I'm waiting for the GOTY polls to see if some characters should get the nod over others. LittleBigPlanet is gonna have to easily win it in order for me to be a believer.
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With the huge jumps for the PS3 and PSP, Sackboy > Kratos Aurion looks even better. That's a pick I'm really surprised hasn't gotten more steam.

I was vacillating at first, but since yesterday's poll I'm leaning towards Sackboy again, and have him in my bracket right now.
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Not to mention the tales of characters blow in the contest
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I'll be surprised if LBP beats Dissidia for the PSP-GotY, but LBP for the PS3 it was probably one of the top five games of 2008 when it wasn't paired with MGS4 and Sackboy's proven to have a character people want to like by being the first guy to make a contest without a released game. Now that the PS3-ownership is 50+% and closing in quickly on the 360, that's another factor to consider for a character who's gotten his first two games since we last saw him.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
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From: H__RR____H | #255
With the huge jumps for the PS3 and PSP, Sackboy > Kratos Aurion looks even better. That's a pick I'm really surprised hasn't gotten more steam.

the pick that should really bep icking up steam is Drake > Boss

nobody cares about sackboy
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Even with PS3 ownership increasing, I'm still not sold on platforming characters doing well and I'm also not sold on LBP being weak 'because of MGS4'.

If you truly believe PS3 ownership has gotten high enough, MGS4 shouldn't have affected it THAT much, thus it may actually BE weak.
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I wouldn't put too much into GOTY polls as it relates to characters. I know people will do it anyway, but those aren't going to tell you anything 'new.' LBP isn't going to beat Dissidia for the PSP GOTY, or even get all that close, but that doesn't necessarily lessen Sackboy's chances of winning. It's the same thing with Street Fighter IV -- it's going to do miserably in the multiplatform poll, but it isn't going to make much difference for Ryu/Dante.

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sure Sony platform characters are weak, Crash, Spyro, Ratchet and Jak have all been disppointing over the years, but he's up against a freaking Tales character, I mean at this point would anyoe take a Tales character against say a 2nd tier Resident Evil character?
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nobody cares about sackboy

Nobody cares about Kratos Aurion either.

IB4 "I care!"
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I think people are overrating Sackboy, but at the same time he should have no problem against random Tales character #386, even the strongest one. At least Sackboy stands out and has a small bit of mascot appeal. High fodder, most likely.
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Sackboy was in an unfair position last year, against the character whose game was the main reason everyone owned a PS3 at the time.

Kratos Aurion did look pretty bad last year, but you could blame it on SFF by Falcon and Diddy.
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LBP got hype, but after it came out I never really heard about it ever again. It just fell off the face of the earth, like Scribblenauts. That's why I don't think Sackboy will have any real strength, though still easily enough to beat Kratos A.
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Not Wylvane

Sackboy was in an unfair position last year, against the character whose game was the main reason everyone owned a PS3 at the time.

I wouldn't say it was unfair if the PS3 ownership was actually decent. The games are nothing alike, and if we're going to think PS3 SFF is at astronomical levels, LBP still isn't going to look that hot.
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oh, Kratos, Yuri and Lloyd, how would you rank these 3 tales characters?
I have a feeling that Yuri might be a decent tales character and if vesperia does make it to the PS3 outside japan i'd have him as the clear number one, but how strong is the strongest tales character is another matter.
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I don't know that LittleBigPlanet stopped being talked about any sooner than most other games. It had a couple of months to shine, and then it gradually stopped being talked about as 2009 got started. That's the pattern 98% of new releases follow. I think the fact that Sackboy managed to make it back in over a year after his game came out does say something, though. If no one cared, or had forgotten about it completely, I don't think he would have made it back in.

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People can blame Kratos Aurion losing last year because of Nintendo and have some justification for it...but man, CF/Diddy had to affect each other more than either of them affected Kratos Aurion, and he took last place to the very disappointing SFF'd/LFF'd-Diddy. Sackboy had a great excuse not to do well last yeaer, Kratos Aurion did not.


Also:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3360

Yeah, LBP's competition was pretty weak there, but it's the only poll where it didn't have MGS4 with it and it smoked its competition. I believe going off of TWEWY, Spore, and NMH suggests LPS was a top-five game in 2008; it wouldn't beat SSBB/MGS4/FO3, but it'd beat Gears 2 too. That would leave it and GTA4 for the top-five, which LBP probably isn't far from. That's a great start for a new series.
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www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285

So how much trust do we have in it a year later? Just about everything in those Game of the Year polls have pretty much backfired.
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We who expected exact transitions in strength from the GotY-polls to contest-power were kinda dumb, but the hierarchies weren't that far off and the site's tastes changing randomly can rarely be accurately foreshadowed. Besides, I don't even care if LBP is a legitimate top-five game or not -- the point is that Sackboy's first game was a big one, he just got a second one on another system, and that these two games are his only two games...games that he didn't have in a contest before.

Also, I feel I should clarify -- I don't think MGS4/LBP-SFF is that serious anymore if at all, but the PS3 is now known for more than just a MGS4-machine too. When you're without a game and your only upcoming game is on the same system as Solid Snake's presumably final game in his biggest year to date, it's hard to expect much success. LBP also looked better in the one poll without MGS4 than the two it's had with MGS4, so I don't think it's without evidence either.
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www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285

sackboy is a poor mans ratchet
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Well I still cannot ignore the recent failures of all platforming characters even if the game was huge somewhat. Kratos Aurion would pretty much beat any platforming character. Jak and Ratchet have had more exposure and probably more appeal and they still aren't anything special. They even have the benefit of being on a universally owned console: PS2. PS3 isn't as universal (and PSP games certainly aren't boost getters especially if you're an unpopular genre). With all these things considered, I really can't see Sackboy winning it. Best thing I can see for him is him winning a close match.
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If Sackboy gets either of these pics, does he win?
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Sackboy/Kratos has the potential to be one of those Guru-killer matches that the casuals laugh at us for, if only because both LBP contest matches had it stuck with Metal Gear Solid 4. It's a definite upset pick, but not impossible.
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You know, I'd probably pick Ratchet over Kratos A at this point, and I do think Sackboy's design alone puts him over Ratchet.

I don't know if LBP would be stronger than MW1 or Galaxy myself. At the very least I can't see LBP over NSMBW, which is pretty damn weird considering I'd want to put Galaxy over NSMBW yet I think LBP has a better chance of upsetting Galaxy. Plus MW2 is pretty much a lock in Top 5 games this gen over here, not to mention FF13 having a very strong chance of rounding it out, and TP being pretty strong as well.

I think GTA4 would beat LBP 1v1, though LBP would pull a strong performance. I'd pick Sackboy over Niko easily, though.
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People need to stop acting like all these Tales characters are uber fodder. This is all based off of a meme from 2005, which itself was based off of expectations which, based off of the Villains Contest, we had every reason to have. With the exception of last year when he was in 4th place and behind possible Nintendo SFF (TOS characters do have a Ninty connection), Kratos A. has always looked to be above the fodder line or just on it.

There's no reason to discount him because of a meme, like what happened in Gordon/Phoenix. In fact the only Tales characters to be at uber fodder levels are Zelos and the ToA crew. The rest of the ToS characters have been at the level of high end fodder (or right below it in Mithos's case, which is pretty good considering what he has going for him.)
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Didn't Lloyd beat Jak? and didn't Ratchet lose to both Thrall and Nana? I rest my case.
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Plus you'd think that with ToS doing so well last contest, some people might have renewed confidence.
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Wait, didn't lose to Nana, but.. lol it came pretty close.
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I'll concede platformers often look terrible here, but LBP looks to be much better-received than any of the rest we've seen come and go for those terrible guys too. To compare:


LBP:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3360
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3353

Jak 2 and R&C:GC:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1488

Jak 3 and R&C:UYA:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1872

R&C for 2007:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2986
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2987
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2993


LBP looks considerably better than that, so I'll give him more room to break the mold.
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There's a lot of difference. The 360 version isn't worth existing.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #286
There's a lot of difference. The 360 version isn't worth existing.

uhhh
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LBP looks considerably better than that, so I'll give him more room to break the mold.

Fair enough.

As for Sackboy/ToS Garbage Fodder #31, I took Sackboy immediately. I thought people had figured out by now not to back any of the 400 fodder characters from that abortion of a game.

Wait, this is turtle.
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XIII only gets more hype on the PS3 because it's already out in japan other than that, I think it's reasonable to assume that game might be like MW2 as in the fans just decide to get it for PS3, though since there's no apparant bundle so far, it'll probably be meaningless.
One thing on that Sonic/Lightning match though, I thought Lightning getting over 35% on Sonic would be easy but now the game seems to be like most other FF titles in the it's new so it sucks phase, so much hate on the game already.
Lightning might fare really badly against sonic then.
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oh and you never know, MegaMan and Mario are crazy strong platformers and LBP seems to be the kind of game to have good legs.
The PSP version during christmas was always on the TV man that PSP bundle was everywhere and with Stephen Fry doing some voicework, every intellectual brit will vote for Sackboy.
Ah Stephen Fry, as far as british national icons go it's hard to top him these days.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #286
There's a lot of difference. The 360 version isn't worth existing.

Excellent points Ulti. Good to know we can always count on you for clear, meaningful input.
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well now that there's no point in buying a ps3 just for FFXIII won't those rpg fans who bought a 360 early just buy it for the console they have?
Ok new buyers might get it for ps3 but i see no reason as to why the 360 version isn't worth existing.
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From: voltch | Posted: 12/30/2009 4:01:02 PM | #292
well now that there's no point in buying a ps3 just for FFXIII won't those rpg fans who bought a 360 early just buy it for the console they have?
Ok new buyers might get it for ps3 but i see no reason as to why the 360 version isn't worth existing.

The 360 shouldn't exist outright. Anyone who couldn't predict that system's failure rates needs a serious lesson in pattern recognition.
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Ulti'd
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To the point, FF13's graphics were dumbed down to laughable levels on the 360 port. I seriously feel bad for anyone playing it on the 360, because they're playing a nerfed piece of crap.

Is there any high-res comparison images or quality videos you have to back this statement? I'm just curious.
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But japan's votes like hardly matter in contest matches, heck europe is a mere marginal seat and it provides over 15k votes per matches and looing back I kinda wanted a megaman/WCC match for some smackdown.
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From: Masato_Tanaka | Posted: 12/30/2009 4:12:15 PM | #297
To the point, FF13's graphics were dumbed down to laughable levels on the 360 port. I seriously feel bad for anyone playing it on the 360, because they're playing a nerfed piece of crap.

Is there any high-res comparison images or quality videos you have to back this statement? I'm just curious.

There are, but you're better off asking Albion to look them up. He's way better at remembering where this stuff exists.
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Fair enough. Albion, what say you?
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