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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 9:19:19 PM | message detail |
I'm
not going with Soap even if MW2 completely dominates GotY, which it
probably will. Soap isn't even as memorable as Niko, who at least was
all over GTA4 and had some solid development. Plus Big Daddy stands out
more, is more iconic, and has Bioshock 2 to his advantage. Damn hiccups. --- Not Wylvane |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 9:19:20 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
I think you're pretty drunk. I'm a big FO3 fan, and was the main fan of
getting Vault boy in the contest, and I would never take Fallout 3 over
TP >_> --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/31/2009 9:24:58 PM | message detail |
Fallout 3 one-on-one should not be debated against any Zelda we've seen in a contest other than Wind Waker. If you want to argue Twilight Princess vs. Fallout 3, put it in MGS4's spot in RE4/TP/Brawl and see if it manages to beat TP. This isn't saying anything negative about Fallout 3, it's freaking Zelda. --- Never forget - 12/10/2009 HOPE |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/31/2009 9:27:13 PM | message detail |
Anyone remember whether or not I claimed Scribblenauts would win DS GotY? That ought to be hilarious right about now. Pretty sure you did...and hey, I'm not the only one drinking and on GameFAQs during New Year's! High-five. Also, I played about forty-five minutes of FO3 last night...and between that and talking to my brother who's beaten it (on top of our discussions on him), it's really funny to me that it had the support to make it in. He literally scoffed when I told him Vault Boy had the support to make it in this contest...but that's anecdotal evidence. Is Vault Boy used any differently than what I've seen from him in the menus and pictures up to the point when I turn sixteen? I hear he's in FO1/2, but those are non-factors compared to FO3 and it's hard to imagine he had a different role in those than in FO3. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/31/2009 9:28:51 PM | message detail |
Fallout 3 one-on-one should not be debated against any Zelda we've seen in a contest other than Wind Waker. LoZ:MM...and yeah, I went there, Majora-fans. Also, of the ones we've seen in a contest, LoZ:LA. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/31/2009 9:30:02 PM | message detail |
Obviously
I don't consider Fallout 3 vs. Majora's Mask or Link's Awakening
debatable, clearly I didn't foerget about those two >_>; --- Never forget - 12/10/2009 HOPE |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 9:33:54 PM | message detail |
Vault
Boy is an icon, though a heavily-used one. He's plastered all over your
Pip-boy (i.e. your menu), scenery like billboards, and even the
achievements for the game. He's nothing beyond that, but he's the most
recognizable "character" in Fallout 3 and the entire series in general.
No other character really stands out besides "Dad," who nobody would
recognize if his real name was used and doesn't really have a standard
look anyway since his appearance is based on your character's, and Mad
Dog, who's an optional part of the main quest and just appears on the
radio otherwise. Vault Boy's gotta be the best Fallout's got
character-wise, and I think he'll impress on Leon personally. Kind of a
shame he's wasted, I'd rather see Vault Boy/Big Daddy myself. I think
Vault Boy would have the potential to get a rally, but oh well. Hahaha, I guess I am drunk if I'm considering Fallout 3 > TP. Guess I'll wait until I sober up before I recontemplate it. --- Not Wylvane |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/31/2009 9:35:01 PM | message detail |
MM
or LA against Fallout 3 would be interesting. I'd go with the Zelda
game in both cases, because LA put up very good performances on FFVI,
which is still a top 20 game even after its fall from grace. MM looked
bad against RBY, but that was because RBY was a legit top 6 game, maybe
even #3. I'd take Zelda 1 over FO3 of course (I was the conductor of that failed Zelda 1 hype train after all). FO3 would beat all the other handheld Zelda games as well as AoL. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 9:38:59 PM | message detail |
I'd
pick Fallout 3 over MM/LA. Don't think either would stand out against
such a popular mainstream game, even as Zelda games. The Zelda name
only gets you so far. Zelda 1/Fallout 3, though... As much as it pains me, I'd probably pick Zelda 1. So yeah, I feel dumb for bringing up FO3 > TP in the first place, since I'd pick TP > Zelda 1. --- Not Wylvane |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/31/2009 9:41:51 PM | message detail |
If
you wanna throw Vault Boy into that four-pack, put him in Geno's place.
Soap/Big Daddy/Ness is already controversial enough, and Vault Boy
could have added a lot to that! He should do well enoguh against Leon,
sure, though I don't think he'll do killer or anything. He did impress
in the vote-in poll though, so whatever. How does the average FO-fan know Vault Boy's name? I get they will likely recognize his pictures, but how do the fans know his name if they're just shown a picture of him? --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 9:45:41 PM | message detail |
I
didn't know his name was Vault Boy until he became a nomination
candidate. Then again, he had solid support in the vote-in poll on name
alone. I do think he's the type of character who will benefit a ton from having pics, though the vote-in poll suggests he has decent strength even without it. Replacing Geno with Vault Boy would've been great. I'd easily pick him over Ness, and I think Vault Boy/Big Daddy would've been one hell of a match. --- Not Wylvane |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 9:47:38 PM | message detail |
Not
everyone knows his name. Some people think he's Pip Boy, something he's
Fallout Boy. But with a picture, everyone who played it will know him.
I'm thinking he might actually get close to 40% on Leon. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/31/2009 9:51:56 PM | message detail |
I didn't know his name was Vault Boy but when I heard 'Vault Boy' I know who it referred to. And I haven't even played Fallout. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/31/2009 9:55:05 PM | message detail |
From
what I've read and thought on it, I feel like people may be thinking of
Vault Boy as your main character...which is nice for polls without
pics. Once a pic is introduced though, while many gamers may recognize
him as the FO-icon, that will also mean many will recognize he's NOT
the FO-character you control. I wonder how much that could affect him
one way or another. This treats the voters like idiots though, which I
don't like to do. Also, I've not really seen anything about him that makes him any more of a character than HL's lambda-symbol other than Vault Boy having multiple pics of himself. They've got charm and he did well enough in the vote-in poll, but man, it's hard to imagine him getting much respect in a poll. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 9:56:32 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #462 I'd be so ecstatic if he pulled that off. Unlikely, but not gonna stop me from hoping. I'm still surprised he did so well in the vote-in poll on name only, though I wonder if the (Fallout) next to it helped. Makes me wonder how many people confused it for your main character. Anyway, looks like Platinum > Spirit Tracks. So much for being a Zelda game! I think you guys overestimate the effect of the "Zelda" name sometimes. The only really strong Zelda games are OoT, LttP, TP, and arguably Zelda 1. --- Not Wylvane |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/31/2009 9:56:33 PM | message detail |
From: H__RR____H | #464 That's what I immediately thought when I saw VB doing so well. Anyone have thoughts on this GotY poll? I'm surprised to see Pokemon doing so well. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 9:56:58 PM | message detail |
The
main character of Fallout 3 can be male or female, and completely
created from scratch. I doubt anyone would consider him/her as "Vault
Boy", especially with Vault boy plastered everywhere over the game --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/31/2009 9:57:27 PM | message detail |
He'll
be fine. Voters are smarter about knowing characters' names than we
give them credit for. If you like a character enough to vote for them
over the other character, you probably know that character's name. On a tangential note, unless you read the instruction manual, in no place in OOT are you ever told Link's name. I think that's true for other Zelda games too. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/31/2009 9:58:39 PM | message detail |
The thing about Vault Boy is that he's never called Vault Boy in the game. The main character is, however, referred to often as the Vault Dweller. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 10:00:07 PM | message detail |
From: H__RR____H | #464 Vault Boy has absolutely no characterization, but neither does L-Block. Recognizability should be enough to give Vault Boy strength, as he's pretty much the icon of the Fallout series. I don't think there are many people who'd vote for the main character (who is a blank avatar) yet not the avatar of the series. And yeah, based on previous polls, I do think the average GameFAQs voter is smarter than most people here give them credit for. --- Not Wylvane |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 10:00:31 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #469 So you're calling voters stupid to get the two mixed up then. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/31/2009 10:01:05 PM | message detail |
Let
me go back to my question and rephrase it: how did Vault Boy's name
become canon, and is it in a way where many gamers will recognize his
name without "(Fallout)"? I get they'll recognize the pictures. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/31/2009 10:01:11 PM | message detail |
It's not even stupidity. If I hadn't seen the board rally I probably would've thought of the main character as well. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 10:02:07 PM | message detail |
From: H__RR____H | #472 it became "Canon" through the fallout bible written by the main writer of the series after Fallout 2. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 10:02:53 PM | message detail |
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_Boy heres a good read to learn a bit more about him --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/31/2009 10:03:54 PM | message detail |
In
fact, I'll say that Link/Zelda without pictures would go almost exactly
like it would with pictures. Zelda will get stomped with SFF, and no
one (well, almost no one) who actually likes Zelda games is going to
think Zelda is Link's name. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 10:04:17 PM | message detail |
I'm
surprised the real battle here is between KH and Pokemon, with Zelda at
a secure third. Didn't expect KH to be so strong, or Pokemon to be so
much stronger than Zelda. Just wait until the kiddies come in and vote for Scribblenauts! Innovation for the new decade vote! --- Not Wylvane |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/31/2009 10:04:49 PM | message detail |
Link and Zelda have SSB and years of being extremely well known. Vault Boy has nothing of the sort. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 10:07:22 PM | message detail |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu_YENZQCc4 --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/31/2009 10:07:24 PM | message detail |
I
don't think it would really matter. I knew who Link was before ever
playing an SSB game, and everyone else who was a fan of Zelda games I
knew did too. The people who don't know are the people who aren't fans,
and they don't matter- it's the same for Vault Boy here, you just need
Fallout fans to know who he is, not everyone. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LOLContests | Posted 12/31/2009 10:08:47 PM | message detail |
Clearly we've all forgotten how truly stupid voters can be: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2555 If the voters can mess up a character's identity, they probably will. --- "Heh, heh...The wind...it is blowing."--Ganondorf This is Yesmar. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/31/2009 10:09:47 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #479 So they're going to think he's called Pip Boy. I wasn't being facetious; google image search for 'Vault Boy' also turns up Pip Boy as a suggested option. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/31/2009 10:10:11 PM | message detail |
Also, let's remember how long it took voters to realize who Big Boss was. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/31/2009 10:10:37 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #482 some people think hes vault boy, some people think hes pip boy. but official name is vault boy, which is why i think he'd do better once people see his picture --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8493/wtfalistair3383895.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/31/2009 10:14:54 PM | message detail |
Well, if voters were very
stupid, Tifa would have won that match over Samus. Also, that pic was a
much stronger disadvantage than running Link/Zelda without pics. Run
Samus/Tifa without pics, and you probably get something very similar to
Samus/Tifa with a normal picture. There is one other thing: part of the
reason for Tifa's overperformance was probably that Samus was seen as
the overwhelming favorite to win the female bracket: see how well Zelda
did against her the next round, what Bowser/Ganon did to Sephiroth in
2005, and (probably) what SSBM and CT did to FFVII in 2004. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/31/2009 10:28:43 PM | message detail |
Kind of surprised that Platinum is in first, PokeFAQs indeed. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/31/2009 10:36:20 PM | message detail |
Infernape > Charizard confirmed. --- Not Wylvane |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/31/2009 10:46:20 PM | message detail |
Zelda
was still often referred to as the princess to rescue though, even if
Link was never referred to in the games. Also, that was a period of
time when instruction manuals and gaming magazines were probably more
commonly read, and they had the information to call your characters
Link. It's also worth noting that LoZ >> FO so the familiarity
with the characters is much higher, plus since SSB's creation that
mistake is pretty easy to prevent. We can then finally discredit this
by mentioning Link is this site's #1 character both in strength and in
nominations, so how many people are really going to screw his name up
with Zelda? I get what you mean though, which is why I don't like to consider voters stupid. They are in a way (ZSS and Solid **** are fun examples), but they're not in general. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/31/2009 11:09:30 PM | message detail |
You
know, regarding that legendary overperformance, it makes you wonder:
how much is the NN dependent on appealing designs? If you had to break
down their popularity, what parts would it boil down to? Thinking
something like this: 1) Design. 2) Opinion on their games. 3) Actions. 4) Nostalgia. 5) Bracket. Plus anything else I might be missing. On a scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate our strongest characters? --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/31/2009 11:36:55 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3684 This poll makes me a little bit more confident in The Boss > Drake. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/31/2009 11:43:27 PM | message detail |
Well the question is worded differently plus we have 25% unaccounted for. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/31/2009 11:46:40 PM | message detail |
If
this was Drake's first appearance more people would be taking him, but
the viscera of "doubled by CATS" is impossible to ignore. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ XFD rofl bad u mad? QQ moar |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/1/2010 12:19:45 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #492 There's also the "PS3 exclusive" stigma to worry about. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2010 12:22:53 AM | message detail |
Based on the ownership polls, that's about as bad as being an Xbox360 exclusive character. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/1/2010 12:27:07 AM | message detail |
Eh, it's not as bad as it used to be, but we'll see. Maybe Drake will surprise me. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/1/2010 1:05:29 AM | message detail |
358/2 Days passes Pokemon, Roxas boost confirmed, etc. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
AmazingKirby | Posted 1/1/2010 1:09:08 AM | message detail |
Roxas > Tidus/Sub-Zero confirmed. --- caps |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/1/2010 1:17:52 AM | message detail |
Roxas at Sora levels 'let's do this'. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/1/2010 1:20:22 AM | message detail |
Placeholder post to give someone the chance to 500 this. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
Xcarvenger | Posted 1/1/2010 1:21:10 AM | message detail |
Sora > Mario confirmed. --- www.board8.wikia.com HAPPY NEW YEAR! |
