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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 769
red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 12:57:38 PM | message detail |
Back from a skiing trip. Merry Christmas everyone! On Master Chief's day vote: I think Chief's ASV has been tamed a bit by the switch to a 3 AM start time. Now, he does quite well in the first couple of hours before getting killed overnight, kind of like Chrono Trigger. The difference is that come ASV time, instead of dying, MC explodes. But, with a 3 AM start time, a lot of those people who vote early in a match that starts at 12 AM would probably vote in the ASV or evening (just as strong a time for MC) instead. On Zack: I don't see why one would think Zack was bandwagoned last year. He put up almost identical numbers on Link in rounds 2 and 3 (30%), and then improved only somewhat in round 4 when he was the beneficiary of triple LFF (34%). Zack was a huge fad in this topic, but probably not a big deal outside of it- none of his matches were close until the last, for one. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
voltch | Posted 12/27/2009 12:58:06 PM | message detail |
It's simple, would YOU vote or a joke, if you thought the joke was no longer funny? Joke characters seem to be like fads, once they get the ball rolling they are nigh unstoppable, but once it dies down, well who still thinks leroy jenkins is super awesome? In these contests, Jokes are treated as fads, that's why there's so little faith in them. --- Shakes Fist! |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 1:03:01 PM | message detail |
Most
of us believe joke characters would be weaker in 1v1s because of the
way L-Block won in 2007: it would put up 28% every match, against
increasingly strong competition. Later on, a huge bandwagon formed
around it pushing it above 30%, but a large part of L-Block's strength
was its seemingly static core voters who'd vote it no matter who the
competition was. 28% is of course not enough to win a 1v1 match. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
AmazingKirby | Posted 12/27/2009 1:15:00 PM | message detail |
Europe
voting so heavily during the night makes me worried about Sora >
Bowser since those dumb Europeans hate Kingdom Hearts so much. --- caps |
voltch | Posted 12/27/2009 1:18:11 PM | message detail |
WHAT! we don't hate KH do we? --- Shakes Fist! |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/27/2009 1:34:23 PM | message detail |
People
who solely like FPS's and action games =/= KOTOR fans. I have no idea
why you guys are still comparing the two. Besides that.. Halo beat
KOTOR. Anyway, Ninja Gaiden is similar to Halo in that they both have a
lot of action and feature cool, badass looking characters. They're
certainly more comparable to each other than KOTOR is to Halo. Also, wtf. Of course Halo 3 would lose to Portal and COD4 and HL2. Those games are all much more respected on gaming communities like GameFAQs. That's why the Cube did alright last year. This isn't a sign of upcoming weakness in the Chief if you ask me, I would have called all of those losses. You're right that SW:KotOR-fans and Halo-fans aren't exactly the same by any means...but Halo 1, Halo 2, and SW:KotOR (NG Black too, for the record) have all won Xbox-GotY polls, with both Halo-games getting 50+% in their polls. MC was also the mascot of the Xbox. There is a natural overlap of some sort because of this. Halo beat SW:KotOR, yes, but check this: http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=23 64% of the Gurus thought Halo would get first. Meahwhile, 5% thought SW:KotOR would advance. Fact is, it was practically a gimme for the people who believed it was going to get some Xbox-respect. It turned out that Halo had to fight for its life; it only took the lead for victory a few hours into the ASV. This is with a bigger RPG (on the PC, SW:KotOR's other source of strength) in the same poll. So, Halo's Xbox-prestige hardly matters at this point. I brought up Halo 3's failings against other recent FPSs because Halo was known for a long time as the king of FPSs, but we've seen in recent years that the king's been dethroned by multiple FPSs of various sorts, taking away some more respect the series held. CoD4:MW properly dethroned it from #1 in the gaming community while MW2 recently shattered all of Halo's records, HL2 has clearly aged a lot better here than Halo 2 has, and Portal beat Halo 3 well enough to argue it or Bioshock could beat any Halo game here as well. Throw in that ODST wasn't taken to very well, and you have my weak point (but still a point) -- Halo's not what it used to be, especially to its genre. This doesn't matter much since Hayabusa isn't from the FPS-genre, but it does add to my case about Halo's lack of pull. comparing halo games to the chief is kinda whack, also. how many action game stars do we see that comparing them to their games is a good idea? Kratos, Dante, Gordon, all of them are weaker then their respective games. Just cuz Halo lost to Starcraft doesn't mean that Chief isn't still a solid character here. Even last year, in his "Disappointment" year, he nearly beat the pink puffball who went onto beat Sonic and Sephiroth. [...] And if you want to go to the comparing games route, then lets compare how halo did last game contest to ninja gaiden though i dont think that would go in your favor It matters for MC against Hayabusa because people have the notion that Halo is the undisputed king of the Xbox. Fact is, it barely is at GameFAQs despite all the records and impact the series made in gaming, and Hayabusa's still pretty even with MC in strength without those huge advantages. I'm not trying to make MC sound weak in general strength when I knock his games like this; we can agree games =/= strength. That said, he doesn't have any particular pull with the Xbox-fanbase (or FPS-fanbase either). That's my argument. The Xbox-fanbase isn't going to give Halo-n-company any special treatment, and I like beating Zero and Riku+Roxas combined in close ones a bit more than losing to Sub-Zero and Dante in close ones (and yeah, I remember Dante/Hayabusa). It should be close either way it goes. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
Xeybozn | Posted 12/27/2009 1:36:19 PM | message detail |
In these contests, Jokes are treated as fads, that's why there's so little faith in them. CATS was a fad, but his x-stat value was fairly consistent between years. There really isn't a good reason to think L-Block and WCC are going to fall to fodder level in just one year. it would put up 28% every match, against increasingly strong competition. Later on, a huge bandwagon formed around it pushing it above 30%, but a large part of L-Block's strength was its seemingly static core voters who'd vote it no matter who the competition was. 28% is of course not enough to win a 1v1 match. I doubt most of the 72% who weren't voting for L-Block were specifically voting against it. There's no reason to assume HK-47 or Isaac are going to win among those voters by enough to actually win the match. --- Congrats to KrahenProfit |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 1:36:31 PM | message detail |
WHAT! we don't hate KH do we? KH is average in Europe, it's just loved a lot in the US, but that's where most of the votes come from. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 1:38:30 PM | message detail |
it
would put up 28% every match, against increasingly strong competition.
Later on, a huge bandwagon formed around it pushing it above 30%, but a
large part of L-Block's strength was its seemingly static core voters
who'd vote it no matter who the competition was. 28% is of course not
enough to win a 1v1 match. People said the same thing about CATS against Ansem in 2005. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/27/2009 1:43:26 PM | message detail |
Thing is, I only picked L-Block twice because he gets two night matches. Joke characters rock the early vote, then tail off during the day. Cube is a different story. Sandal shouldn't be a problem, but round 2 is a day match. If Nathan beats The Boss (who has a horrid day vote and struggled all day to beat TAILS of all people; Nathan winning this after Uncharted 2 wouldn't be that big a shock), he probably gets casual support in round 2 over the Cube and gets a bye right into round 3. Cube is praying The Boss wins that first match. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ All you love is a lie. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 2:02:41 PM | message detail |
Joke
characters rock the early vote because nobody has voted yet. What's
stopping the same thing from happening in the day when the poll
restarts? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 2:19:09 PM | message detail |
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 2:22:37 PM | message detail |
People
said this about CATS in 2005? Well, sure, but there were more people
saying that CATS predicted Link/Cloud almost perfectly and pointing to
it as a shining example of the x-stats and linearity working. I would definitely take L-Block over the likes of Jak and HK-47 1v1. He's not going to be fodder- more likely he'll be a (on the lower side of) midcarder, which is a lot weaker than he is in 4-ways. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 2:36:16 PM | message detail |
People
said this about CATS in 2005? Well, sure, but there were more people
saying that CATS predicted Link/Cloud almost perfectly and pointing to
it as a shining example of the x-stats and linearity working. http://www.oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SpC2k5&type=match&match=14 CATS help proving the x-stats was thought about once, but by 2005 a lot of people were convinced that everyone would blow out CATS because joke characters can only get so much. Heck look at Ulti's analysis for CATS in 2004 and villains 2005 --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 2:50:24 PM | message detail |
Well,
I haven't read his analysis for CATS for 2005, but looking at his
Oracle prediction, it looks like he thought CATS would be linear and
took Ansem with only 54%- and was right, taking #3 in the match. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
H__RR____H | Posted 12/27/2009 2:50:33 PM | message detail |
If
Nathan beats The Boss (who has a horrid day vote and struggled all day
to beat TAILS of all people; Nathan winning this after Uncharted 2
wouldn't be that big a shock), he probably gets casual support in round
2 over the Cube and gets a bye right into round 3. Cube is praying The
Boss wins that first match. 1) The Boss beating Tails was a big upset for a 3rd/4th-place battle. Tails was the one disappointing, not The Boss. Compare that to Drake likely "deserving" to beat CATS, but ended up being easily doubled and being the only guy CATS ever beat. 2) Though the vote-in polls shouldn't be taken precisely for strength by any means, The Boss and Tails both impressed in two polls while CATS took dead-last in another. 3) Uncharted 2 hasn't impressed here pre-release or post-release yet. Drake better hope people notice his character a lot more than his games. MGS3's aged better since it originally came out (MGS3 hanging tight with RE4 instead of losing hard to GTA:SA, Big Boss killing Kirby instead of getting doubled by Auron [though pics and MGS4 have helped this], The Boss looking better since her tripling by Tifa), so Drake will have his hands full. Uncharted 2 should, by all means, make him improve a lot...but he's got a very long way to go, too. The guy's bad and probably needs Uncharted 2 to be better-received than it currently is. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 2:53:35 PM | message detail |
Well,
I haven't read his analysis for CATS for 2005, but looking at his
Oracle prediction, it looks like he thought CATS would be linear and
took Ansem with only 54%- and was right, taking #3 in the match. Ulti =/= the entire board. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 3:07:10 PM | message detail |
About MC/Hayabusa: By now, it should never be surprising to see MC flop to a character he "should" beat easily. Nor is Halo going to simply roll over Western games......as these highly embarassing polls show: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3493 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3489 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3468 --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:08:25 PM | message detail |
From: Xeybozn | #400 HK and the Boss/Drake aren't fodder though. They're just above fodder. I'm not saying the matches won't be close. And what red sox fan said about the very static L-block is exactly what I'm thinking. Ever notice most of the joke characters hovered around 20-30% in each of their matchups, whereas other characters varied by huge amounts depending on who they were up against? Mudkip, L-block and WCC all hover around that 20-30% mark.. hell even Bidoof got 15% against Link, and then in the next round barely lost any percentage despite Vincent and Zelda being in the poll. WCC will take Sandal, no problem. But I think calling any of the rest of L-block's or WCC's matches as sure things is folly. I don't think WCC and L will stay at 30%, but I just don't know if they'll get 50+% support against 1 character who is decently well known in the gaming community. And you'll have tons of people who are sick of the joke and want to see it die, much like what happened to L-block last year. Admittedly the people who support the joke will probably far outnumber the people who are sick of it though. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:16:46 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #418 Didn't know it was embarrassing to lose to good games from different companies with huge levels of support. I dunno, maybe the rest of you saw those as "flops" but it was pretty much expected by me that Halo 3 would lose to friggin Metal Gear, a game with huge cult support that would overperform in 4-ways like Portal, and a recently critically acclaimed RPG like Fallout 3. I love Halo, but Halo 3 was meh and isn't as well regarded as the original. And losing to Smash Bros, a Zelda game, and a giant Blizzard game isn't exactly surprising either. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/27/2009 3:18:29 PM | message detail |
i dont see how halo not rolling over western games has anything to do with ryu vs. Chief you realize Hayabusa is a japanese character right? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hcoz20.png |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:20:24 PM | message detail |
Anyway,
point being I've always been realistic of the Chief. I've called every
one of his 1v1 losses except for Sub Zero, which I said would go either
way. Like I said a million times, Subby > Ryu H, and Chief is higher
on the Xbox hierarchy. Ryu H does have a chance if the anti-voting is
extreme and the Chief has lost some support over the years, but I just
don't see him winning with the factors just mentioned. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2009 3:25:42 PM | message detail |
It
was not surprising to people who'd seen MC in contests before, and a
lot of those games that Halo games lost to are just midcarders, while
Ryu Hayabusa has shown plenty of strength before, too. Halo is not
nearly as popular on Gamefaqs as it is in the United States as a whole,
and the same is true of Master Chief. Those matches would be highly
embarassing if you went into them thinking about Halo's popularity in
the US instead of thinking about MC's past contest performances, and if
you only look at contest matches, Ryu Hayabusa looks like the favorite. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 3:26:09 PM | message detail |
Just wondering do you think there is a PS2 hierarchy too? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:42:06 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #424 Not nearly as prevalent since everybody and their mom owned a PS1/2. So basically it'd be like.. almost the entire voting bracket has played PS games. It'd be a lot harder to track but I'd say the recent Square characters are at the top of the PS heirarchy and you see a bit of SFF between them and MGS, though that has weakened since Snake was put in SSBB. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/27/2009 3:48:37 PM | message detail |
Out of curiosity, what is Ryu H.'s strongest value, and from which year? --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:51:55 PM | message detail |
http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Ryu%20Hayabusa Dunno what his xstat value was in 2008.. was the link posted earlier in this topic? --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:54:36 PM | message detail |
Charmander gave Ryu a 25.34%, MC a 25.01%. Leonhart gave Ryu a 27%, MC a 30%. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 3:54:51 PM | message detail |
^^for 2008 I mean. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/27/2009 3:56:29 PM | message detail |
so even in Ryus best year, if you combine them MC beats him, and its a day match, where MC is at a different level then night why are we discussing this upset again? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hcoz20.png |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 4:02:13 PM | message detail |
Well,
xstats aren't everything, but I agree. Ryu H has always been weaker,
now people are arguing MC will drop off the face of the earth and lose
out on the Xbox hierarchy. Anything's possible but.. I don't understand
why a few people are saying Ryu H is the favourite. At least recognize
the evidence points to the Chief and that you're just taking kind of a
gut pick that MC will drop this year. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/27/2009 4:04:26 PM | message detail |
Master
Chief is like a stronger (lot stronger) version of Magus. He fails to
ever blow out his opponents, and mostly loses to characters he should
be beating easily. Add that to Ryu H's rise up the rankings over the past few years, and it's a viable upset pick. Just it's still an upset though. Trying to say otherwise won't change that fact. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/27/2009 4:05:59 PM | message detail |
its an upset pick that has nothing to really base it on. Chief is higher on the Xbox heiarchy Its a day match, and Ryu is pretty much static from day to night Chief has always been stronger people just want to root against chief and any match that might be somewhat close they will trick themself into thinking chief has a chance to lose --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hcoz20.png |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 4:10:07 PM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #432 Who has he lost to that he should have beat? --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/27/2009 4:14:37 PM | message detail |
Mmmm,
well I personally think Ryu looked stronger in 2008 so it's not like
Chief has always been stronger. Plus that was the most recent year.
It's logical to base your thinking off the most recent year after all,
so it's not like Ryu is some huge upset there. I mean sure if it wasn't
for 2008 it would seem like an obvious Chief pick with no real basis to
go for Ryu but after 2008 the only thing that really makes it an upset
is some just the conceptions of Xbox hierarchy, being stuck on 2007,
and maybe the sentiment that Ryu's performance was a fluke or some
benefit of the four way. Although the most latter isn't really a bad
line of reasoning. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 4:17:54 PM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #435 Coming last and scoring 13% against Zero, Snake, and Vivi is better than what the Chief did? --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/27/2009 4:19:58 PM | message detail |
Ryu
H disappointed against characters he squashed and both times with Snake
in the poll. If you want to call it a coincidence, go ahead. But
getting the crap kicked out of you by someone you beat the crap out
twice in a row under the same conditions is a pattern not a
coincidence, as far as I'm concerned. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 4:20:33 PM | message detail |
Coming last and scoring 13% against Zero, Snake, and Vivi is better than what the Chief did? TAKING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT! Unless you think Riku can gain all of Roxas' votes and then some over a round. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/27/2009 4:27:21 PM | message detail |
Who has he lost to that he should have beat? Sub-Zero, Frog, Aeris. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 4:27:23 PM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #437 Seems to me Ryu has casual appeal and when he faces someone who also has casual appeal, he gets crushed. I wonder what kind of appeal Master Chief has... --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 4:31:01 PM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #439 Sub-Zero went on to score 40% on Auron. Wouldn't expect much more from the Chief. Most people on the board called Frog > MC IIRC, it was actually closer than expected. I was a huge Halo fan and I thought Frog > MC was a lock. Frog had an insane 2004 anyway, never came close to matching his performance that year again. And uhh.. what? People thought he should beat a well known FF7 character when Chief was the mascot of the Xbox when gameFAQs HATED the Xbox? News to me.. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Agent M | Posted 12/27/2009 4:50:43 PM | message detail |
Just filled out my bracket. Some matches that really stumped me: Does Amaterasu beat Shadow? Liquid beats Altair right? Then Liquid/Vivi is tough. Is Zidane going to beat Ike without a problem? Laharl/Neku, they're both weak but who's worse? Ratchet/Eddie Rigs. I took Ratchet even though he's going to be legendarily weak. :/ I never played Assassin's Creed. I have no idea if this Ezio guy will do anything, but Simon Belmont is the suck. Any chance at all Falcon can take down Riku? Sheppard/Ellis Soap - out in round one or makes it to round 3? Peach - Does she have any chance to bring back memories of GFNW? --- Signature |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 4:56:24 PM | message detail |
I took Shadow Liquid (then Vivi, might change) Ike (his day vote was pretty crazy last year and I think he's slightly stronger than Zidane) Laharl Ratchet Ezio just because Belmont sucks Riku Shephard Big Daddy (because of Bioshock 2 being released just beforehand and I think MW2 hype will have died down) And hilariously I think Peach has a chance just because this is the man who lost to Tina Armstrong... but I picked Gordon. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/27/2009 4:59:04 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 12/27/2009 6:26:09 PM | #424 A lot of matches involving Metal Gear Solid would suggest this. --- "I'll attract the enemy with my *human* call.... I'M SO WASTED, I'M SO WASTED!!" |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 5:03:03 PM | message detail |
Actually **** it I'm switching to Liquid, he kicked a lot of ass last year. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/27/2009 5:15:34 PM | message detail |
From: Agent M | Posted: 12/27/2009 4:50:43 PM | #442 Amaterasu LIKELY beats Shadow, since he's hated now and pretty weak. Not set in stone, but should happen. Whoever wins the Liquid/Altair tossup is likely to get to R3. Vivi ain't that good. Zidane beating Ike is doubtful. I believe they'll face in a day match...and Ike's ASV is good stuff. I believe X-stats say Neku was a little better, but the real question here is: when does Square/other RPG's ever go well for the other RPG's? Ratchet sucks, yes, but Eddie Riggs is likely to be at Raz's level at best. Ezio is like Altair but better (though with a lousier name). He shouldn't have trouble dispatching ol Sims. Falcon/Riku...it's quite debatable, actually. I think Riku is stronger, but Falcon ain't a slouch either. Shepard/Ellis sounds like an easy Shepard win to me. Ellis is "who?". Shepard is recognizable if you've seen Mass Effect's...well, anything at all. Soap's LIKELY out in R1. I don't buy MW2 giving Sopa a big boost, and ask yourself this: who's got the more appealing design, Big Daddy or Soap? Either of them's likely going down to Ness, though. >_> Peach has a good shot, yes. I'm hoping Gordon wins, though. >_> --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 5:23:05 PM | message detail |
Wait, people think Peach has a shot? I don't think he'll crush her, but you have to give Freeman some credit. Also Shadow wasn't hated before? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/27/2009 5:25:19 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 12/27/2009 5:23:05 PM | #447 Not on 2k3 and 2k4. He was decent in the latter and he was The Black Sonic in the former. And Peach is liable to win that. It's just that Gordy is the Hero of the People, the One Free Man, and I'm backing him on that match even if it kills me. Dude DESERVES it. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/27/2009 5:26:33 PM | message detail |
From: DaruniaTheGoron | #440 the kind of appeal that will crush Ryu which is why i'm expecting a doubling --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hcoz20.png |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/27/2009 5:28:24 PM | message detail |
Ryu Hayabusa (2006c) VS Master Chief (2006c) Ryu Hayabusa has a strength of 25.36. Master Chief has a strength of 27.47. Master Chief wins with 53.84% of the vote! A win of 9,541 with 124,219 total votes cast. Thats the year he "bombed to Sub Zero" people seem to forget Subby was actually pretty strong that year --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://i47.tinypic.com/2hcoz20.png |
