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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 769
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:31:37 PM | message detail |
It should be noted that in the last 1v1 contest, SFFed Ryu was barely below Chief in the X-stats. >_> --- Never forget - 12/10/2009 HOPE |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:31:43 PM | message detail |
He's always on the lists of most badass characters in gaming By his ACTIONS not his looks. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 12/26/2009 9:32:27 PM | message detail |
Ha, Albion comparing Master Chief to Solid Snake. Good one. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
yoshifan823 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:32:49 PM | message detail |
From: NominateSerge | #344 On that note, I'd take Subby over Hayabusa in a heartbeat, though that may be my inner MK fanboy shining through. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:34:00 PM | message detail |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #351 and it should be noted in the last 1v1 contest Chief was in was back when his games were only on a system that was cool to hate and 360 had not yet gotten popular here. From: charmander6000 | #352 Snake is the same way. Or is having a mullet and looking like a middle aged guy in a tight jump suit badass these days? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:34:25 PM | message detail |
Don't knock the mullet, son. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:35:06 PM | message detail |
and
it should be noted in the last 1v1 contest Chief was in was back when
his games were only on a system that was cool to hate and 360 had not
yet gotten popular here. Oh, and neither of these things helped his games one bit. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:36:18 PM | message detail |
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/The-Ten-Most-Badass-Video-Game-Characters-Of-All-Time-14683.html just doing a random search got me a top 10 most badass video game characters chief is on --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:36:27 PM | message detail |
Snake is the same way. Or is having a mullet and looking like a middle aged guy in a tight jump suit badass these days? Does Snake get badass votes or because MGS is one of the most popular series? Besides Snake looks more badass than Master Chief. If you've already played the game what the character looks like in the picture isn't going to sway your vote too much. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:36:47 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #357 like i said earlier, if you want to bring up the games arguement, i'd be more then happy to bring up the massive success ninja gaiden games have seen on polls --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:38:37 PM | message detail |
Or
the massive success the Devil May Cry games have had, right? You know,
since Dante beat the Chief and all? Regardless, you totally missed the
point. Not that I'm surprised. I'm just saying, you'd think it'd make a difference in the Chief's games. It hasn't. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:40:14 PM | message detail |
i
don't get why people still use game strength when talking about action
game characters. you'd think people would realize by now that game
strength and character strength for action game characters is like the
worst gauge of strength there is --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:41:51 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #362 Again, you're missing the point. You're saying: "Oh, the Chief lost to Sub-Zero back when this site still hated XBox and didn't accept the 360." Fast forward 3 years later: Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3 all bomb. Not seeing how the Chief will be any different. I'd wager he still loses to Sub-Zero. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:43:10 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #363 someone seems to be forgetting a year that chief nearly beat snake. yeah, its a one year thing, but if he had those kinds of votes one year, its still a factor to be considered for him being a lot more accepted then before --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:44:14 PM | message detail |
Sub-Zero had a Mortal Kombat game released in the week of the match. While Chief had Halo 3. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:44:29 PM | message detail |
Chief
didn't "nearly" beat Snake. He lost cleanly from wire to wire and never
made a serious threat. Besides, you know better than to bring up Game
Fuel Chief. Once he gets another Game Fuel campaign, then we can talk. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:44:30 PM | message detail |
plus
i'd take day chief over some noble niners with bad day votes (like i
have him beating mega man), so might as well give up this debate for
now sicne we're on opposite spectrums --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:45:34 PM | message detail |
(like i have him beating mega man) Onelessbrackettoworryabout'd --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:49:23 PM | message detail |
Mega
Man is average in the day, he only does bad during European hours and
since the match starts late in the ASV for them I would say he's safe
from their backlash. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:50:09 PM | message detail |
Plus,
there's the fact that, even against Crono, Master Chief didn't win a
single update. I remember this very clearly because Lopen was insisting
he would, and I rubbed it in his face when he didn't! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 9:52:13 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #370 If Chief could do that back in the days of original Xbox, then one should expect he should at least go even with Crono during day now. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/26/2009 9:53:17 PM | message detail |
Looking at the geolocation Mega Man gets a boost in North and South America while doing worse in the other continents. Of course I'm expecting diluted vote trends since people can vote twice. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 9:56:48 PM | message detail |
Chief's
day vote hasn't been any different in the other years, 2007
withstanding. It hasn't gotten any better. It's not as miraculous as a
lot of people are thinking. Neither is Altair's, for that matter. He barely budged with the ASV in round 2. Marth stole the ASV there. Plus, making big comeback attempts on the Duke is nothing special. His ASV is bottom of the barrel. Liquid's ASV really wasn't that bad last year either, and he was stuck against Nintendo the whole way through. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 10:00:14 PM | message detail |
trends
stay the same, but a boost in strength is still a boost in strength. if
he almost went even with crono back in 2005, when xbox was a joke and
crono was stronger, there is no reason to think they wouldnt go even at
least now with crono falling and chief getting stronger --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 10:02:54 PM | message detail |
But Chief isn't stronger. I'd wager 2006 Chief = 2008 Chief. Oh, and they didn't go even. Crono still gained 10,000 votes on his lead while Chief was cutting percentage. Crono was virtually doubling him when the percentage drop started. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/26/2009 10:04:34 PM | message detail |
Except it went nearly 58-42 in Crono's favor in the day time. That's hardly what I'd call "almost even" --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/26/2009 10:05:42 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #375 more like 5000, but yeah --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/500x_ffps3.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/26/2009 10:43:12 PM | message detail |
more like 5000, but yeah Chief started making sizable cuts a little earlier than halfway through the match (which, by the way, would be about 3 P.M. in 2005, the beginning of the ASV). Just from halfway to the end, Crono outgained MC by about 8000, but the Chief started cutting about an hour before then. So yeah. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/26/2009 11:37:01 PM | message detail |
Ok.. so one of the main arguments for Ryu H seems to be that "he beat Zero". I just find this really flawed. In a 1v1 I'd take Zero, no doubt. That round 1 seems like a giant anomaly, and it's the only match where Ryu H "beat" Zero. Zero has done as expected in almost every poll besides that one. In fact, I'd argue that Dedede and Pit took votes from Zero Back in the day, wasn't it argued that Nintendo SFFed Mega Man, which is why Mega Man was adjusted against Link, and Yoshi against Mega Man? Wouldn't surprise me if Zero was leeched by those 2, and Ryu took the "cool, casual" vote in that poll. Most of you acknowledge this by saying that against "badass" characters, he drops like a rock. I wouldn't say the full 28% from Pit/Dedede would go to Zero in that match, but probably 20%. I just think you guys are overrating Ryu H big time. We'll find out come.. late February I guess. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/27/2009 12:34:49 AM | message detail |
Master
Chief will probably score 55% against the Ninja Gaiden star. But
beating Mega Man? No way, Jose! He MIGHT'VE been able to beat Sonic in
2007 (even finished higher than him and Crono in the x-stats), but
aside from that he's not challenging any Noble Niner! And it seems that Master Chief lost to Sub-Zero on the day that Mortal Kombat: Armageddon was released. After that, Sub-Zero broke 40% on Auron, got surprisingly close to Sonic, and then the match afterwards, ended up surprisingly close to GORDON FREEMAN. I think Chief will win that match. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/27/2009 1:19:57 AM | message detail |
Ryu
H has a really good chance (I considered taking it for awhile), but I
think there's enough of an Xbox hierarchy to save Chief there. Though
I'll admit I'm biased because I want to see ngirl's R3 Mega Man/Chief
match pic get used. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning! |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 1:55:23 AM | message detail |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #380 Definitely. While I don't see Ryu H having a shot at the Chief, taking him to beat Mega Man is really extreme. Like I said earlier, Sub Zero barely beat the Chief, and I would definitely take Subby over Ryu H, plus as Ulti said numerous times, the Xbox hierarchy hurts him as well. Let's argue something different, like how well are these joke characters going to do in a 1v1 format? We all know they gained an advantage in the 4-ways. Does everybody see it the same way? Like say, the Cube barely getting enough support to beat the Boss due to people not caring about a joke and caring more about an awesome character like the Boss? Can L-Block even beat HK-47? I just have no clue how they're going to perform in 1v1s. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/27/2009 3:11:54 AM | message detail |
Cube will definetely get to round 3. L-Block should be able to oust the KOTOR droid. That is all. On a side note, Cube vs. Sandal is extremely funny. Kudos to whoever set up that match. Oh wait, isn't there GLaDOS vs. Fawful to think about? I actually have GLaDOS winning that one. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/27/2009 3:20:36 AM | message detail |
I
think the joke characters stopped being funny even last year, and in
1v1 they won't do that well at all. But L Block and Cube got such
garbage fourpacks that they could win two rounds by default. That said
Cube vs Drake/The Boss could really go either way, and L-Block could
lose anywhere in the first three rounds. --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." -CJayC |
voltch | Posted 12/27/2009 4:32:46 AM | message detail |
huh, LMS is back? Does that mean we have huge stat list popping up everywhere again? --- Shakes Fist! |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/27/2009 6:03:16 AM | message detail |
Then I suppose I shall not do another stat page again! Yeah, I agree that Cube and Block have such garbage fourpacks. I dunno about KOTOR, but it did so horribly on Destructoid's list that I'm not even going to think about it (getting beaten by Phoenix Wright? Seriously?). Of course, the last real list I saw it on had KOTOR at the #31 slot, a place ahead of Metal Gear Solid 4 and a place behind Resident Evil 4 but then again...THERE'S NO WAY KOTOR WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST MGS4 ON THIS SITE!!! SO WE MIGHT AS WELL FORGET IT!!! (Feel free to ignore this rant) Of course, Destructoid's list had one game per series (aside from both Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, I suppose), and that list did not have Final Fantasy X, Twilight Princess, Brawl, or even MGS4 representing their respective series. Also, that list had four GameCube games in the top 20 and SSBM WAS NOT ONE OF THEM, which just makes me laugh, laugh, and laugh considering what a good number of people think. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 6:09:25 AM | message detail |
My
bias against joke characters has L-Block losing to HK-47 and Cube
losing to The Boss. I'm actually mad that I had to take joke over
another joke. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/27/2009 6:37:48 AM | message detail |
From: voltch | Posted: 12/27/2009 7:32:46 AM | #385 You just had to encourage it, didn't you. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,. http://img.imgcake.com/mjpop.gif |
voltch | Posted 12/27/2009 6:46:34 AM | message detail |
tis not like I can see em though. but yeah, l-block losing to hk is surprisingly plausible, hk ain't weak at all. --- Shakes Fist! |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/27/2009 7:27:09 AM | message detail |
I
love LMS. I should add him to my "Ten People I Actually Like on Board
8" list, since I'm at six or so. Too bad I forgot who all is on the
list. I wonder if votals are different in the early part of the year than they are in latter part. Should be easy to check, but I'm lazy and busy so. Of course, including contests would skew the results, but you could simply compare January and February votals of regular polls this year with November/December votals. Of course, there are other variables, such as new games debuting that would easily increase votals a bit. Though the only notable games I can think of that would bring users here is ME2 and FF13, but it still may gave us a couple of interesting spikes. I'd be more focused on how the votals change than the trends. Too bad we don't have 12-hour polls to compare! Makes me want to bust out some time series to predict votals, though those are pretty reliant on the type of poll and so many other factors that they wouldn't be too accurate. Plus I'm way too rusty with my statistics. --- Not Wylvane |
voltch | Posted 12/27/2009 7:37:36 AM | message detail |
As a rule I never follow stats, they're decent for reference points, but to follow them religously is baaaaaad. --- Shakes Fist! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/27/2009 10:25:45 AM | message detail |
Gotta love the anti-PSP board vote. No was over 60% for a while. PSP's ownership also boosted quite a bit in 6 months. When this poll was run about 6 months ago, ownership was at 44.32%. Now it's at 48.97% as of right now. Dissidia probably helped boost the ownership a bit. But L Block and Cube got such garbage fourpacks that they could win two rounds by default. L-Block's seed has a lot to do with getting easy competition for 2 rounds. L-Block got a 3 seed, which is probably in the ballpark of at least 500 nominations or more. L-Block had to receive a lot of casual support, as there were only 4 nominations from this board alone. The 3 seed gives L-Block a weak opponent. Even the Cube got a pretty decent seed, but not as good as L-Block. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
voltch | Posted 12/27/2009 10:34:31 AM | message detail |
still
couldn't these high seeds be fed a vincent or something around that
level, heck something like Tidus or Yuna/L-Block would have been really
interesting. --- Shakes Fist! |
ffmasterjose | Posted 12/27/2009 11:24:46 AM | message detail |
*Googles "Destructoid"* Not relevant to GameFAQs at all says Google. According to my 13 yr old brother's Christmas wishlist, New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the most anticipated game of the last 20 years. Therefore, Luigi > Link in the Division Finals is a pretty likely upset pick. See I can do that too --- Submit your entry for The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII contest!: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/cb8_entry.html |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 11:59:58 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #384 I knew HK did fairly well before, but I forgot he got 35% on Sora and actually advanced in 2007. I'm seriously considering taking HK-47 in the first round. Then the question becomes.. who wins between HK and Isaac? WCC is so difficult too.. I might take the Boss. Not sure yet... Just don't know how much support a Cube can really get. I'd find it surprising to see jokes get over 45% against characters that aren't fodder, problem is The Boss is almost near the fodder line and only people that actually played MGS3 really understand how amazing she is. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 12:18:49 PM | message detail |
L-Block
was able to get 41% on Kirby is what is probably the closest thing to a
1v1 (Laharl & Nathan Hale). HK-47 was able to get 35% on Zero in
2007. I guess the question remains is whether or not the joke is still funny. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 12/27/2009 12:36:58 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #396 Even then it only got 30% of the vote and that was back when the joke was still in full swing and not getting embarrassed by Pikachu. I'm pretty much banking on people not caring about the joke anymore but even then I still don't imagine a total joke could get more than 50% consistently. Man, why couldn't CATS have done what L-block did :( CATS is way funnier. Just a random thought that a joke like that only gets 15%. Obviously the block still has some real support due to Tetris being so popular though. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/27/2009 12:40:42 PM | message detail |
Not sure yet... Just don't know how much support a Cube can really get. Cube will benefit from Steam rallying. In fact, the Cube got a Steam rally back in round 3, which helped to defeat an LFFed Mega Man. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/27/2009 12:42:56 PM | message detail |
Some initial stats of what to expect in a 12 hour match. First I took the what time do you vote poll. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3333 I looked at the results of each continent using geolocation. I did the same with the what time you wake up/go to bed. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3519 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3520 Sadly there was no poll asking what time you work/go to school and even though it is different for each country I made the DSV from 9am-3pm and the ASV comes after. Using the first poll and time zones I was able to construct which continent has voted in the first 12 hours and the last 12 hours. Total – 76838 (24 Hours) North America – 60647 (78.93%) South America – 1441 (1.88%) Europe – 11051 (14.38%) Asia – 1831 (2.38%) Oceania – 1802 (2.35%) 12am-12pm (Night) Total - 37240 North America – 26139 (70.19%) South America – 861 (2.31%) Europe – 7692 (20.66%) Asia – 1326 (3.56%) Oceania – 1222 (3.28%) 12pm-12am (Day) Total – 39598 North America – 34508 (87.15%) South America – 580 (1.46%) Europe – 3359 (8.48%) Asia – 505 (1.28%) Oceania – 580 (1.46%) Some things to note... - In contest matches usually the first 12 hours has 55% of the votes, I guess it becomes 50/50 during the off-season. - People who voted in the first 12 hours would probably vote again in the next 12 hours, this would likely decrease North America's dominance. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
Xeybozn | Posted 12/27/2009 12:54:08 PM | message detail |
What
evidence is there that joke characters will perform so much worse in 1
on 1 matches? The only thing I can think of to support that is that
their results in fourways weren't consistent between rounds, but you
could say the same thing about Gordon and Pikachu and nobody thinks
they're going to be fodder. Not that it matters with the paths they have, though; L-Block is a lock to make round 3 and so is the Cube, unless Drake's gained a ton of strength. Neither one has a chance after that. --- Congrats to KrahenProfit |
