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Yeah, I don't have faith in Nathan Drake, unless you'd pick Claptrap to beat The Boss! Though it did narrowly beat Brutal Legends in the October game poll and you can argue about MW2 LFFing Uncharted or whatever somehow (though I don't see it myself since they're two different genres with different fanbases), but even with all that Uncharted 2 doesn't come anywhere close to being this gen's RE4. And Nathan Drake may have the character to make him distinct from nobodies like Soap, but that only nets loyalty from Uncharted 2 players, which I doubt are that many. At least Altair and Ezio have that character design to set them apart. I'd take Drake over CATS in a rematch, but not over someone like The Boss.

Ezio's another character whose fate is sealed. Yet more wasted potential.

Back to fictional characters! Santa Claus vs Link on Christmas Day, who would win?
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Link would ptobably have an easier time since Santa would get anti-voted because kids didn't get what they asked for.
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Today's poll clearly show the PS3 got a boost!
Well maybe not, but just wondering, are there any conventions or like likely press releases between now and the contest start?
I want to eliminate the possiblity of surprise megaton anouncements.
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They're remaking Final Fantasy 7 but replacing Cloud with Sackboy.
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Not Wylvane

dundundun...

Oh hey, btw, I'm looking at certain franchise characters just to check out quickly they established themselves and how the hell did Dante become so strong?
He was really strong before DMC3 his biggest game ever came out and after that he became top 20 if not top 15 material, but It seems he had a good deal of raw power right off the bat, I'm just stunned at how quickly he established himself, yet someone like say Kratos needs GoWIII to be a massive hit on this site for him to even think of reaching that kind of level and even then he probably won't.

no DMC game has made a games contest and the series contest didn't have DMC in it either, the argument that Resident Evil fans could be right behind him doesn't really hold up either when you look at how abysmal mainstays like Wesker are and the strongest character Leon, from Capcom's number one franchise is weaker than the lead of a franchise which is below RE, SF and MM, heck If Lost Planet 2 is the predicted massive success it might end up being the DMC franchise will overall feel like 2nd tier stuff.

This just shows how freaking awesome Dante is though, to draw so much power out of seemingly nowhere, truly terrifying now if he had a game that becomes praised like Bayonetta or RE4, well I can't imagine how high the guy could go, DMC3 is good, but you'll never see it in a best game of all time list will you?
I mean take Crono, he's from a highly acclaimed game and draws much of his strength from people who just adore his game, so even with low sales compared to entire franchises like mario Crono remains popular.
But Dante remained strong despite having an incredibly panned game, while Master Chief got severly deboosted after initial Halo 3 hype.
Heck, come to think of it I don't remember seeing much DMC4 hype around here, RE5 got a lot of talk, mostly complaints, but it got people talking, by comparison Bayonetta seems to get more talk than most DMC games ever get.
Also other characters with weaker franchises usually have a plan B to explain their strength, the most obvious case is Nintendo characters who have the SSB franchise to fall back on to give them a nice top up.

At first I thought it was because of his design and moves that he became popular, but that doesn't stack up because Ryu hayabusa and Kratos have equally impressive movesets in their games yet they seem to bomb in high profile matches and if design mattered that much Prince of Persia and Altair would be incredibly strong.
Unless the simple combo of guns and swords is just THAT effective.

Then maybe I thought it would be his character, I mean his face on the box and while a game like GTA and Uncharted 2 is about what you do with cars, guns and the cinematics, in DMC it's all about what Dante can do next, what kind of cool move can Dante do, so maybe that's where he differs from Kratos, since there it's on how cool can the kill be rather than how cool can you look while killing.

But here come a factor that makes things even stranger, DMC games like Ninja Gaiden Games are notorious for being difficult, now most strong characters have games that are generally easy, Sora's KH games aren't too challenging, MGS games have an easy mode making it very accessible, DMC3 I died a lot on just the first goddamn boss, it didn't turn me off, but it did frustrate me and I can see people kinda hating Dante if his games are so hard, but instead he gets a lot of love.
Then there's his cocky attitude, but that kind of attitude isn't a sure fire way to be popular, I mean look at Drake, unless it's just the name that sounds cool.

In short, how the hell did Dante get so strong so quickly, when his franchise is nowhere near as strong as other top tier character's franchises?

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Same reason Kratos is one of the strongest new characters, Devil May Cry was a big game on GameFAQs when it came out and he has a lot of hardcore fans.
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The Boss is weak enough that it shouldn't take much for him to win there. I think the case with all 3 overrated 2 seeds is the same, barely strong enough to eek through the first round, then get pounded in round 2.

Then again, it's tradition that at least one of the 2-seeds goes down in an upset. Tough call. I'm sticking with Drake though, because Uncharted 2 seems so much bigger than the first.
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Dante has one of the most badass character designs of any character and he's from a well-received series, much like Kratos, Crono, and to a lesser extent Ryu H.

Probably have been discussed a million times by now, but since I don't know, what are the strongest characters to have made their gaming debut since the first contest? Kratos and... Vercetti? I can't think of anyone else.
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I'm sticking with The Boss for the upset because I love Metal Gear Solid, Drake lost to CATS, and it's the ****ing Boss!
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Action game heroes are popular for two primary reasons: Great design and cool stunts. Dante has both in spades.
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we'll just have to see how uncharted 2 does later on in these game of the year polls.
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@Voltch: Devil May Cry was in the series contest. It was held below 30% by the Sonic series. The same Sonic series that scored 43% on Smash, the same Smash that scored 36% on Mario series.

@Voltch: Devil May Cry was in the series contest. It was held below 30% by the Sonic series. The same Sonic series that scored 43% on Smash, the same Smash that scored 36% on Mario series.

The same Mario that scored 47% on FF, the same FF that scored 49% on LoZ. In short, DMC was the Ultimate Loser.


So, I'm in Seattle until the New Year and have gotten my first opportunity to be on the internet in a few days...anybody care to help brief me on what I missed in the past three or four days? I'll probably be gone as soon as I see it, but it'd be nice.



PS - merry Christmas to those celebrating it and happy holidays to the rest.
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Less than 15 minutes until our next batch of "Got Console?" polls again. Well, hopefully.
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 12/25/2009 8:03:02 PM | #263
@Voltch: Devil May Cry was in the series contest. It was held below 30% by the Sonic series. The same Sonic series that scored 43% on Smash, the same Smash that scored 36% on Mario series.

The same Mario that scored 47% on FF, the same FF that scored 49% on LoZ. In short, DMC was the Ultimate Loser.


So, I'm in Seattle until the New Year and have gotten my first opportunity to be on the internet in a few days...anybody care to help brief me on what I missed in the past three or four days? I'll probably be gone as soon as I see it, but it'd be nice.



PS - merry Christmas to those celebrating it and happy holidays to the rest.

Lots of discussion on the debatable matches, mostly. The hot topic right now is whether Ryu H. over MC is a reasonable upset. Proponents for it argue (correctly) that Ryu H. defeated Zero in 2k8 and outscored Riku and Roxas combined in 2k7, while MC had showings that were nowhere near as impressive in 2k8 after he came down from GAME FUEL (the worst being being defeated by a LFF'd Dante), while proponents against argue that Ryu H. is likely to flop against badass (from a character design standpoint) and casual characters, like MC or Dante. Personally I'm in the latter group, though the former seems logical enough.
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anybody care to help brief me on what I missed in the past three or four days? I'll probably be gone as soon as I see it, but it'd be nice.

You've missed out on some hearty Pokemon Trainer Red discussion!
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wow, yesterday i just realized how the Save_Us.RAT fad back then was a reference to Chris Jericho, what other contest nicknames have we given that were inspired by wrestling?
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I think Pokemon Trainer Red will win just because Revolver Ocelot is unreliable. I mean, seriously, he beat a certain character one contest only to get a big release and LOSE to that same character next contest?

And if you can't beat a Resident Evil lead, how are you going to beat a Pokemon lead? Pokemon seems to be a more popular series than MARIO on this site.

And if you can't beat a Resident Evil lead, how are you going to beat a Pokemon lead?

Games =/= characters

Pokemon seems to be a more popular series than MARIO on this site.

XD maybe you take a look past this topic/board.
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I'd also like to talk about the bottom half of the chaos division.

Has everyone forgotten Liquid last year? Assassin's Creed 2 may give Altair a boost, but he would need one heck of a boost to catch him. Remember Altair was around the fodderline. Maybe people are too focus on the seeding.

I agree that Liquid/Vivi is a close match, but Kirby should no where be close at getting almost unanimous support against Liquid/Vivi.
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Has everyone forgotten Liquid last year? Assassin's Creed 2 may give Altair a boost, but he would need one heck of a boost to catch him. Remember Altair was around the fodderline. Maybe people are too focus on the seeding.

I've been saying this all along. Liquid's performance last year was too strong for Altair to match, especially considering he'd need a big boost from a game he doesn't even star in. Plus, for whatever the reason, everyone's expecting a drop from Liquid since it's already been 1.5 years since MGS4! For cryin' out loud, it took ten years before we started seeing FFVII and CT characters drop! Liquid's not going to drop that quickly.

I agree that Liquid/Vivi is a close match, but Kirby should no where be close at getting almost unanimous support against Liquid/Vivi.

I personally don't see Kirby losing that one. He'll win with about 55% at most, but I think he's far enough ahead that he won't be in danger of losing. Of course, we saw Vivi hang close with Zero last year, and Zero was awfully close to Kirby in 2006. It just depends on if you think Zero's dropped in the last two years.
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Okay yeah, it's probably tough to care for Pokemon characters, as the games probably do well because of the sheer addiction factor of the GAMEPLAY, just like the Smash series.

On the other hand, Resident Evil is more of a character driven series. Then again, not really; it seems more heavily driven on ATMOSPHERE!

I personally don't see Kirby losing that one. He'll win with about 55% at most, but I think he's far enough ahead that he won't be in danger of losing. Of course, we saw Vivi hang close with Zero last year, and Zero was awfully close to Kirby in 2006. It just depends on if you think Zero's dropped in the last two years.

I see Kirby vs. Vivi/Liquid being something like Squall/Auron where everyone thinks the match will be close, but doesn't see the winner losing. However even Auron has some support.
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I think Squall/Auron is a bit closer than Kirby and Vivi/Liquid. The thing with Kirby is that people can't forget his run last year, so he's getting overhyped. He'll probably disappoint people with how much Sonic beats him by.
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But most of Auron's support comes from those who want an upset for the sake of an upset though.
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liquid was coming off of mgs4 (i dont know how prevelant he is in it tho), and Altair didnt have a game for a year

AC2 just came out and will remind peopel of altair
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From: Lightslayer987 | #276
liquid was coming off of mgs4 (i dont know how prevelant he is in it tho), and Altair didnt have a game for a year

AC2 just came out and will remind peopel of altair

So you make a point to mention you don't know how prevalent Liquid is in MGS4, but you don't even care to mention that Altair isn't in AC2?
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Altair vs Liquid Snake screams "Luigi vs Zero" to me. It's a match that Liquid and the board should win easily based on stats, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Altair and the casuals rip that one up.

On a better note, I think I've finally figured out Alucard vs Magus. Their performances last year are more or less a wash. 40% on Sonic and 35% or whatever Alucard got on Crono are equally good on paper, but Magus is stuck behind Sonic's god-awful fourway performance. If you look at any other year, Magus is a stronger character. Even in his losses, I can't see Alucard beating Knuckles or even Sandbag last year.

Magus should win this in one of those 53-47 matches that looks close but never really is. So of course expect Alucard to break 60%.
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Is it a well-known spoiler? Or is it kind of a secret that people might miss out on?

But the thing is, what has Assassin's Creed 2 done to make people like Altair more? Yeah, it's all well and good that it helps people remember him, but this is like saying Cloud will get a boost from FFXIII because it helps people remember him.
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*MGS4 spoilers*










Ocelot is acting of his own accord. There is no "Liquid Ocelot", making Liquid's last game.... The Twin Snakes? rofl










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I didn't even know who Ezio was until this bracket came out. I don't have a 360, never played Assassin's Creed 1 or 2 and just assumed Altair was the main character in 2. And I'm willing to bet I'm far from alone on this.
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Altair vs Liquid Snake screams "Luigi vs Zero" to me. It's a match that Liquid and the board should win easily based on stats, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Altair and the casuals rip that one up.

Liquid has a tendency to mess with our minds with these inexplicably bad performances (Liquid/Lavos, barely beating Alucard in round 1 and then getting destroyed by Alucard in round 2), so it's possible.

If you look at any other year, Magus is a stronger character

Well, if you look at any other year, Chrono Trigger is a stronger game than it is now.
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Altair vs Liquid Snake screams "Luigi vs Zero" to me. It's a match that Liquid and the board should win easily based on stats, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Altair and the casuals rip that one up.

Except that even in 2006 Luigi was still expected to get 48.8% on Zero based on 2005 stats while Altair would have a hard time beating Ocelot.
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I didn't even know who Ezio was until this bracket came out. I don't have a 360, never played Assassin's Creed 1 or 2 and just assumed Altair was the main character in 2. And I'm willing to bet I'm far from alone on this.

Which is fine, but those people would have already either voted for Altair regardless of the second game or not vote for him since they haven't played either game.
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*MGS4 SPOILERS*






That didn't stop Liquid from being stronger and Ocelot being, well, Ocelot. It's like a mind over matter thing. The game keeps telling you it's Liquid, so people associate everything that happens in MGS4 with Liquid, even if they know better and it's really Ocelot.

Plus, it's possible that it really was Liquid in MGS2 and not Ocelot, hence why he removes the arm and gets the prosthetic. He just gets the bright idea to keep it up since it enables him to fool the Patriots. It's stated that he removed the arm because he feared going insane, meaning it really might have been Liquid.

Interesting fact: Any time "Liquid" is talking in MGS2, Ocelot's hair shortens to the length of Liquid's and he loses the ponytail.





*END SPOILERS*
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I don't have a 360, never played Assassin's Creed 1 or 2 and just assumed Altair was the main character in 2. And I'm willing to bet I'm far from alone on this.

So basically, you're saying that those who've never played AC2 will just assume that Altair is the main character.

And this helps him...how?
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Oh very true. But you can't call me biased here, I've spent various times obsessed with both Alucard and Magus's games. It just looks like Magus is stuck behind things in those 2008 stats, but at the same time he fails the eye test. And I mean badly fails. 30% in a poll with Phoenix Wright and Bomberman?
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30% in a poll with Phoenix Wright and Bomberman?

Not to mention losing several updates to Crash Bandicoot with that dreadful ASV!
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Well keeping a constant Phoenix Wright, Magus is expected to get 39.63% on Bowser, plugging those vaules to 2006 against Auron we get...

Magus - 37.07%
Alucard - 35.60%

Now all that's left to talk about is whether or not Bowser or Alucard has dropped since 2006.
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There's also Chrono Trigger DS to think about.
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Do you guys suppose SB will put Ezio or the guy's full name for the poll?
I mean Ezio clearly sounds more badass than his full italian name.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 12/26/2009 10:16:49 AM | #290
Constant Phoenix Wright.

The problem with this is that Phoenix changed between 2k7 and 2k8. His trends reflect that. I don't think that taking him as a constant works.
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There's also Chrono Trigger DS to think about.

So it's going to be even more laughable when Magus chokes, bank on it!

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Having just played some of AC2, Ezio is going to do better than Altair, guaranteed. He's an actual, very good character (and just stomped GameSpot's Best New Character poll in both reader votes and the editorial choice, I believe) and AC2 just being a much better game in general means that Ezio is going to benefit.

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Yeah, just checked, and he won Best New Character from the editors. Reader Poll went as such:

Ezio 42%
Morrigan 12%
Eddie Riggs 11%
Ellis 10%
Claptrap 7%
Alistair 5%
couple others you guys haven't heard about and don't really matter

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The problem with this is that Phoenix changed between 2k7 and 2k8. His trends reflect that. I don't think that taking him as a constant works.

If you ignore that he isn't a board favourite anymore his trends aren't that different.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 12/26/2009 11:15:34 AM | #297
The problem with this is that Phoenix changed between 2k7 and 2k8. His trends reflect that. I don't think that taking him as a constant works.

If you ignore that he isn't a board favourite anymore his trends aren't that different.

But it's still a noticeable change. Taking him as a constant isn't a good idea, though he's probably a nice basis for comparison after a couple adjustments.
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But it's still a noticeable change. Taking him as a constant isn't a good idea, though he's probably a nice basis for comparison after a couple adjustments.

I disagree, the board vote has low vote totals so it's a lot easier to affect the initial percent, at most it would matter 0.5%.
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The board vote at the end of the day is insignificant, I mean how many users can you actually name, looking at the wiki there's about 700 odd users, and not tht many vote from the get go, I mean sometimes i get the impression people think the board vote represents about 1000 votes when it's probably closer to 150-200.
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