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From: XxSoulxX | #341
Vaan is the second most popular character from FF12, no?

Red doesn't rank in the top 5 here.

I wouldn't take Vaan to beat Basch or Ashe from FFXII. Vaan is basically the avatar character who isn't really the main character. That's the only analogy I was making.
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From: KamikazePotato | #344
I'll stop using the facepalm when people stop saying stupid things. Vaan is the most outright hated main character in existence.

I remember this being said years ago in relation to Squall having no chance to beat Luigi!

And if Vaan is so hated why does he get ANY votes?
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Oh yeah, I know that TRE, red13n, you, and Sir Chris will all say that they're huge fans of him now that he's in the contest, but before that. I've never once seen anyone say they are fans of him pre-contest. And there's no reason to be a fan of him.
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Vaan is basically the avatar character who isn't really the main character.

Couldn't you say the same thing about Tidus, the story revolves around Yuna.

Then again Auron and maybe Yuna are stronger than Tidus.
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Didn't the manga come out before the games? If so, then Red should technically be ineligible since he was in the manga, and in fact was badass as **** in it. Certainly better than that asswipe Ash.

Fact is, nobody gives a **** about Red. He may be from a huge game here, but so was Midna and the five hundred Brawl characters we've seen. Red is your avatar, but you're never given any reason to give a **** about him. You people are acting like there's some sort of deep story that contributes to deep character development. There is no story. The entire ****ing point is to catch and train Pokemon and beat up other people's Pokemon until you win. Link and Crono have games with deep storylines, and their characters play huge parts in those stories, and they do actions that define themselves and endear gamers to them. You can't tell me you were emotionally moved when Red took down a crime boss compared to CT's big spoiler or the hardships Link has to endure in pretty much every Zelda game.

Who cares about Red? Who cares about Peach? Who cares about some random fodder character? People obviously care for the strong characters, and it's the weak ones gamers are apathetic about. If anything, I think Red is most like Pac-Man. He's sort of an icon for his series (though not nearly as much so as Pikachu) but not one people really care about. His recognizability alone may get him wins against weaker characters like Ocelot, but he's going to fold big time against big names like X.
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Actually, that comparison to Pac-Man is better then the one to Vaan. The only thing is, Pac-Man at least has a fanbase because of his game's popularity. Red doesn't.
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From: swirIdude | #352
And if Vaan is so hated why does he get ANY votes?

I could ask the same thing about Tingle!

Seriously, why the **** does Tingle gets votes. Tingle fans shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
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Not Wylvane

Vaan got like, 9% of the votes in the only match he was ever in. Yeah Rikku was there but take her out and does he really do better?

I'm all for accurately predicting Red (in serious discussion), you people just keep picking terrible comparisans. Peach? Vaan? really

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From: XxSoulxX | #356
Actually, that comparison to Pac-Man is better then the one to Vaan. The only thing is, Pac-Man at least has a fanbase because of his game's popularity. Red doesn't.

How does this even make sense? Pac-man has a fanbase because of his game's popularity, but Red doesn't because his game has a lot more popularity? What?

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The Peach comparison was saying that nobody cares about either character.
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KP, can you tell me why you're a fan of Red, other then him being the avatar of RBY?
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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the red = rby comparisons are as weak as a soap = cod4 comparison imo
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I'm all for accurately predicting Red (in serious discussion)

If you think we're so crazy why don't you make a comparison.
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Can a fan of Crono tell you why they're a fan of Crono? I just am. I find him likable, he does cool stuff, and has an awesome boss battle.

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Red gets votes from huge Pokemon fans. that could well be enough to beat someone who lost to a mouth, but I wouldn't expect him to be a powerhouse. I was one of the bigger RBY supporters in this topic last year, but Red is not RBY. not close.

you don't need to post facepalms and other stupid things in order to get your disdain out, KP. just post a rational argument and we'll be good.
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xyzzy

Red fan present here.
Ok so 90% of the reason why I like him is because of Pokemon special, but everytime i see that classic sprite I'm like oh yeah, this was back when i owned the elite 4, Gold, you was cool but silver was much cooler and he pales in comparison to red and blue.

As for those saying Red will be weak because he has no fans, what of prof Oak? He's kind of a staple now isn't he?
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The best possible comparisan to Red is probably...Revan, I guess, but we haven't seen him in action. Shepard isn't quite as good but he's close enough. Both are avatars with fanbases based on what they are and what they do more than any real depth to them, surrounded by a cast of more 'interesting' characters.

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How does this even make sense? Pac-man has a fanbase because of his game's popularity, but Red doesn't because his game has a lot more popularity? What?

Pac-Man is the only representation of his game. Fans of his game will vote for him just because of that.

Red may be a part of RBY, but he is outclassed by many Pokemon and side characters/gym leaders in the game. He has no personality, no interesting traits, no anything really. He's just this image that brings you from point A to point B. He's like the cursor icon from your mouse. There's nothing to like or dislike about it. It's just there.

Red's going to get votes from the anime crowd and the SSBB crowd (and from those who recognize him over Ocelot), but some people here are saying he could be as strong as Crono which is just downright stupid.
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From: XxSoulxX | #855
I've never seen a Red fanboy anywhere either.

sup

also Manga Red is well liked, if that means anything.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

I'm not saying Red is a powerhouse. I think he's a midcarder.

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I could pretty easily formulate why I like Crono. he's got a cool design. he's good in-game. he's got cool sword techs. he's got the spoiler. the game revolves around him. he's a hero.

Red is like.. well I don't know Pokemon that well but from what I played of Pearl, the human characters were pretty much nothing. it was all about the Pokemon.
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xyzzy

Not many people on the anime board have red pokemon special though, so his manga fans on this site are probably under 2-3k.
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Shakes Fist!

Well from what people say in game, Red is well kinda like Superman as in he's a real goody goody kind of person who cares about pokemon and is very brave and has a lot of love to share, it's cliche and classic, but aren't most nintendo characters pure anyway?
Except peach, what dirty little whore.
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Shakes Fist!

Red's a hero too. He takes down Team Rocket, saves a bunch of people and Pokemon, catches all 151 of them, defeats the Elite Four, and becomes so much better than everyone else that he secludes himself in a cave and awaits challengers.

Note that this is coming from someone who doesn't understand the Crono love at all outside the spoiler. >_>

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Oh yeah, I know that TRE, red13n, you, and Sir Chris will all say that they're huge fans of him now that he's in the contest, but before that. I've never once seen anyone say they are fans of him pre-contest. And there's no reason to be a fan of him.

Vocal Red support goes back at least as far as the NRT half a year ago. IIRC there was also a fair bit of vocal Red support when Pokemon Trainer was announced as being a character in Brawl.
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Oh last year wasn't brock getting more support for the pokemon humans, I think there was confusion because people nomed red and others pokemon trainer, but not Red.
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Yeah considering Red got the 4th largest amount of nominations on B8 despite not placing in the Rally Tournament...he's gotta have some fans here.

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From: voltch | #366
Red fan present here.
Ok so 90% of the reason why I like him is because of Pokemon special, but everytime i see that classic sprite I'm like oh yeah, this was back when i owned the elite 4, Gold, you was cool but silver was much cooler and he pales in comparison to red and blue.

As for those saying Red will be weak because he has no fans, what of prof Oak? He's kind of a staple now isn't he?

If Prof. Oak actually does have fans, I'd assume they come from the anime, where he's a decent character and pops in and out throughout the series, even though he's a minor character there. In the games, he's just a recurring character who gives you your first Pokemon in RBY and then gives you access to post-game content in the other games. Not really that big a character, and I can't see him doing anything here.

Red's anime equivalent is an idiot that a lot of people don't even like or respect, and the one place where Red himself gets any character development, the manga, is one that virtually no one has even heard of, let alone read. Red's basically got RBY and Brawl, and Brawl's Pokemon Trainer in all likelihood is going to be incredibly weak anyway, which will **** Red over if he gets that as his pic rather than his iconic Red sprite. Even that isn't going to do **** for him, though.

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #362
the red = rby comparisons are as weak as a soap = cod4 comparison imo

Red=Soap is the best comparison yet. Both from popular games on GameFAQs, both having virtually no character development, both having no discernible personalities.
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From: KamikazePotato | #358
Vaan got like, 9% of the votes in the only match he was ever in. Yeah Rikku was there but take her out and does he really do better?

I'm all for accurately predicting Red (in serious discussion), you people just keep picking terrible comparisans. Peach? Vaan? really

Vaan got stuck against three solid midcarders, it's not like he drew 9.54% against the likes of Tanner, Nathan Drake, and Sackboy.

And no one's arguing Vaan is actually strong, as far as I can tell.
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I'm an Ash fan. I'd be willing to vote for Red in many circumstances, but he drew Mr. Hand Gesture, so no dice!
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Soap is a bad comparisan. Soap's in CoD4 is a bigger avatar than Red (you don't see him whatsoever), and in MW2 he's a side character whom you interact with, has lines, ect.

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ew Ash

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Now I hope Red gets an Ash Ketchum picture.

Aw yeah Ocelot scoring the biggest blowout of Round 1 and Red sinking below Tanner.
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Not Wylvane

Red vs Pac-Man. Who ya got?
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I would take Ash over Red. At least he had moments.
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Red isn't Ash, so it's not like he could get a picture of him. Something like that has never happened. Besides all the times it did.

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come to think of it, red also has leaf green and fire red on his side.
but hey people can't have forgotten about the littl guy they walked and cycled with like 11 years or so ago, man god bless the running shoes.
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Shakes Fist!

Games Red has appeared in:

RBY
FireRed/LeafGreen
GSC
Pokemon Stadium 2
Brawl (sorta)

Think that's it.

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HeartGold/SoulSilver as well. They won't be out in time for the contest, though.
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Well from what people say in game, Red is well kinda like Superman as in he's a real goody goody kind of person who cares about pokemon and is very brave and has a lot of love to share, it's cliche and classic, but aren't most nintendo characters pure anyway?

No, he's not. Where did you hear that?

He's introduced as a kid that's about to start his Pokemon journey. That is the ONLY characterization he's given in game. Seriously, whoever told you that was lying to you.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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His characterization is basicially implied that he's a goody goody who cares for his Pokemon by the other characters saying his love and caring for his Pokemon is what lead them to victory, and what kept Blue (Gary) short.
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Red is a crack dealer who is disguised as a Pokemon Trainer so that he has an excuse to travel across the land and exchange goods with the various dealers he encounters.

It's kinda sad that some of Red's supporters haven't actually played RBY, so they're making arguments based on hearsay and conjecture rather than actual instances from the games themselves.
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Not Wylvane

Does "lol Avatar" particularly matter in this contest?

Look who wins it almost every time.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

Who hasn't played RBY?
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Does the saying action speak louder than words ever occured to anyone as to why characters like Link and Crono are loved?
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Who hasn't played RBY?

red sox mentioned it earlier this topic and said many people on the board haven't either which is why we are underestimating him.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3432

At least 85% there.
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Not Wylvane

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2740

So it's looking like 10-15% of GameFAQs hasn't played a Pokemon game. I figured RBY must have one of the highest play-rates of any game on GameFAQs.
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Not Wylvane

Couldn't you say the same thing about Tidus, the story revolves around Yuna.

Tidus's situation is nothing like Vaan's at all. Tidus manages to remain relevant to the story throughout and is absolutely crucial to its resolution. You can't say either of those things about Vaan.

And I wasn't saying Red was going to be Vaan level strength (I've got him beating Ocelot, after all). I was just making the comparison that, while Vaan may be the character the player controls, it doesn't make him the star of the show and nearly everyone shows him up.
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Hey I played the fench version and whenever you beat the crap out of giovanni or the elite 4 there's always some guy like the silph corp or oak singing your praises and the reason why you crushed everything is cos you love pokemon and blue loses cos he uses em more for battles.

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