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transience | Posted 12/21/2009 12:33:47 AM | message detail
that's an argument for him doing well in a match with overlap, if you believe it anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 12:37:06 AM | message detail
Yeah, I do honestly believe that out of every Final Fantasy character around, none of them will stand up to Cloud and Sephiroth better than Auron does. Of course, most of the ones that could rival Auron in strength are from FFVII and would obviously get destroyed, and the other is Squall, who has his reasons to have a hard time with Cloud. I dunno how he'd do against Sephiroth though. Maybe we'll get a chance to find out...! Okay, maybe not. We'll get to see how Vinny and Tifa handle Sephy straight up though.

Thinking back on that now, maybe I'm not so sure on it. I remember Vivi not doing much worse on Sephiroth in 2004 than Auron did.
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transience | Posted 12/21/2009 12:39:18 AM | message detail
Auron got murdered by Cloud in 2007. nobody stands up to those guys. the best case scenario would be Sora, probably.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 12:47:10 AM | message detail
Auron got murdered by Cloud in 2007.

Hmmm...He got 26.80% on Cloud there. I was thinking more along the lines of his 1-on-1 numbers.

What did Squall get on Cloud in 2008? *does the math*

26.81% Holy crap, it's obvious, Squall wins! Why are we even discussing this?!

nobody stands up to those guys. the best case scenario would be Sora, probably.

Yeah, but even Sora couldn't beat Squall in the face of Cloud.
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transience | Posted 12/21/2009 12:52:19 AM | message detail
Sora had Squall to deal with there too. I think in a one-on-one situation he'd do much better than Squall did.

even in this match, he did better on Squall than he did in the prior round. (I think)
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transience | Posted 12/21/2009 12:53:22 AM | message detail
actually, Sora got pretty close to Squall in the previous match. no way do I take Sora over Auron.

eh, whatever.
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 3:13:24 AM | message detail
Have we ever had Sora up against other near elites?
He does seem stuck against squares and snake an awful lot.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/21/2009 4:46:03 AM | message detail
So I guess if Auron does lose we can just once again chalk it up to four ways being deceptive.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/21/2009 5:05:48 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2554
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2552

Sora > Auron, Auron is screeeewed
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 12/21/2009 5:43:22 AM | message detail
Eh Sora > Auron is like... a very low possibility upset. Not gonna say impossible but yeah. How do those two polls show Sora > Auron at all; that's only true if Crono has proven stronger than MM. Besides Auron is the well liked badass guy (untainted by FFX-2 might I add) while Sora is lol Disney who isn't even liked as a character by fans of his series (Roxas and Riku are both cooler btw).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 8:30:27 AM | message detail

From: transience | #106
actually, Sora got pretty close to Squall in the previous match. no way do I take Sora over Auron.

eh, whatever.


I wouldn't either, but I dunno. I keep feeling that Sora is stronger than we think or we're willing to give him credit for. The guy's basically done nothing but impress since KHII.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 8:31:25 AM | message detail
Plus, we saw the original Kingdom Hearts do to Final Fantasy X what Sora has done to Squall.
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 9:20:47 AM | message detail
heck KHII got dangerously close to Resident Evil 4, now we know games=/=characters, but when you are from an rpg, a well liked company and your series is one of the most popular on the site, it does raise a question as to why we always underrate him. KHII did help him gain a new badass outfit of sorts afterall.
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 12/21/2009 9:49:14 AM | message detail
KH is carried by FF and Disney; Sora isn't even Top 5 material out of the KH original characters. Most fans of the series are also huge Square fans and they would not vote Sora over freaking Auron. Are non-fans going to vote for some goofy looking kid with a freaking giant key for a weapon or the badass guy in the trenchcoat with a SWORD?
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/21/2009 9:50:56 AM | message detail
Wasn't Auron the most hyped character for KHII?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/21/2009 9:52:00 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3286

lots of sora underestimation going on here

Honestly I'd say that Auron/Sora is a toss up since I think Squall is a little bit stronger then Auron is
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 10:29:51 AM | message detail
Really, I though Jack Sparrow was a big draw.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 10:44:47 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #115
Wasn't Auron the most hyped character for KHII?


Yeah, he was, because he was new and because you could put him in your party. I'm not denying that Auron wasn't awesome in KHII (because he was), but Squall still had a more important and larger role overall in the game.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/21/2009 12:41:01 PM | message detail
Also speaking of Sora, why do people think Bowser has a chance against him?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 12:42:20 PM | message detail
Bowser fear and Sora underestimation, I guess.
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Lopen | Posted 12/21/2009 12:49:06 PM | message detail
Why wouldn't you think Bowser has a chance against him? I mean Sora's been boosting and all that but let's look at 2006, when most of his boosting should've been out of his system. 45% on Mega Man. Which, while good, is no better than what Bowser got on Crono the same year.

2007 Bowser, many thought Ryu would excel in the format and it's possible he did.

2008 Bowser eaten by SFF.

Sora's not a clear cut winner by any means.
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Lopen | Posted 12/21/2009 12:54:53 PM | message detail
And on Sora's side, every time he looked really good, there was a debatable Final Fantasy mixing helping him out. Either from Squall/Aeris, or Cloud/Squall, or whatever.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 12:56:17 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 12:56:29 PM | message detail
Which, while good, is no better than what Bowser got on Crono the same year.

3% is no better?
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Lopen | Posted 12/21/2009 12:59:24 PM | message detail
Huh. Guess I misremembered.

Even so, based on that the match is at least somewhat debatable. Sora should be the favorite, but not to the point where you ask the question "why are people picking Bowser!?"
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/21/2009 1:05:42 PM | message detail
I have Bowser > Sora, but that's a tentative choice - I could definitely change my mind later on. More than anything, I'm leaning towards Bowser just because he's one of my favorite characters.

A random, and probably immensely stupid, question: does Vault Boy have even the slightest chance of winning a match? I have Leon defeating him in my bracket (like virtually everyone else), but I'd much rather see the Boy advance.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 1:09:21 PM | message detail
If Albion isn't picking Vault Boy, you shouldn't either.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/21/2009 1:11:18 PM | message detail
Bowser had two big games in the past few months

so uh

Bowser boost

eh?

eh?

eh?

meh ;>_>
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/21/2009 1:12:05 PM | message detail
Sora/Bowser is one of those matches where there's a clear favorite (Sora), but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the upset happened.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 1:13:05 PM | message detail
Yeah, I won't be surprised if Bowser wins, but I'm pretty confident in Sora.
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Lopen | Posted 12/21/2009 1:16:51 PM | message detail
Bowser is what we call a "cheap upset pick." I'm really tempted to pick Bowser to pad my upset picks stat but I have to question whether I believe I should be picking him or whether I'm just being biased towards trying to look "edgy." I'll probably end up with Sora, though.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/21/2009 1:17:06 PM | message detail
I'd go for the Vault Boy > Leon upset just for kicks if I wasn't already betting on Missingno.


Bowser had two big games in the past few months

so uh

Bowser boost

eh?

eh?

eh?

meh ;>_>


Fawful obviously got a boost from M&L3, so there's no reason to believe Bowser didn't as well!

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ffmasterjose | Posted 12/21/2009 1:32:41 PM | message detail
Squall is one of my favorite characters ever and I'm still taking the Auron > Squall upset. It just feels right. As cheap as that may sound.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/21/2009 1:33:10 PM | message detail
Am I the only person that thinks Auron doesn't stand a chance? Everything we've seen points to Squall getting at least 55% before SFF. Squall is probably the strongest non-NNer and I would back him in a rematch with Vinny easily. Dissidia is just the icing on the cake of what will be a boring match.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/21/2009 1:37:37 PM | message detail
2008 Bowser eaten by SFF.


eaten?

He was gorged, barbecued, and cannibalized alive.
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 1:46:36 PM | message detail
We still don't know if Dissidia had any effects at all though, otherwise we'd be hyping cecil,Tidus and Zidane more, it's still too early to just call Auron/Squall just yet.
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 1:59:02 PM | message detail
fffff, I must have switched round Ryu/Dante at least 4 times by now, the wiki doesn't help either, saying that the last character battle was their best...though DMC4 was kinda fresh back then and SFIV choked recently, but SFII is weak yet Ryu is strong.
Such a hard match to pick.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/21/2009 2:02:33 PM | message detail
Everything we've seen points to Squall getting at least 55% before SFF.

What's "everything," especially before SFF?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 2:04:46 PM | message detail
You're not supposed to question BT's baseless assumptions because he can't support them! You're just supposed to nod your head and go along with them!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/21/2009 2:05:31 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #127
If Albion isn't picking Vault Boy, you shouldn't either.


I think he can do better then people expect (maybe like 35% on leon), but no way is he winning
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/21/2009 2:05:50 PM | message detail
But he's got such a nice sig!
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 2:09:35 PM | message detail
Yo! That is not the Ariel I know and love, do not be fooled.
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transients | Posted 12/21/2009 2:18:03 PM | message detail
I think my bracket is done with the exception of Sora/Bowser. I hate that match.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/21/2009 2:19:36 PM | message detail
I thought mine was done, but I'm not starting to reconsider Dante/Ryu of all things.
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 2:21:13 PM | message detail
damnit, I hate it when people are uber confident about their picks, yet are struggling on things I consider no brainers. Dante has the BoP, but he always seems to choke whenever he does get it, but Leon/Dante is so tempting.....
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/21/2009 2:22:05 PM | message detail
I refuse to touch my bracket again even though I'm pretty tempted to switch to Squall > Auron... but then if Auron wins I'll be all pissed at myself, so I'm just leaving it the way it is.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/21/2009 2:22:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, I generally don't change my bracket after my initial runthrough unless I can't find any reason to stick with it anymore. Most of the time, when I switch my bracket, I end up getting it wrong.
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voltch | Posted 12/21/2009 2:24:53 PM | message detail
For me it's 50/50, my real problem is when i'm totally convinced i did switch but when i look back at my bracket i realize i forgot to change, it's like damnit i knew zelda would beat vivi, so why does my bracket say otherwise.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/21/2009 2:24:54 PM | message detail
Squall/Vincent 2005 makes me comfortable enough in Squall. If he could almost beat the FFVII party badass, I think he'll be able to take X's guy.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/21/2009 8:45:11 PM | message detail
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message detail Squall/Vincent 2005 makes me comfortable enough in Squall. If he could almost beat the FFVII party badass, I think he'll be able to take X's guy.


Not only that, but he almost beat him immediately after Advent Children, before KH2 and before Dissidia. Plus Squall has looked way more impressive than Auron has.
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