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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 768

Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/20/2009 6:55:49 AM | message detail
Requesting the Maxim x-stats for my bracket.

"If the top seed is odd, then it is a night match.
If the top seed is even, then it is a day match.

After that, the first match of every division is a night match (works for round 1 too)."
Thanks transience (and red sox 777).

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/20/2009 6:58:42 AM | message detail
"Night" means the match starts at midnight, "day" means starts at noon.

Thursday, Jan 15th Night - Link/Thrall
Thursday, Jan 15th Day - Alucard/Magus
Friday, Jan 16th Night - Red/Ocelot
Friday, Jan 16th Day - Price/MMX
Saturday, Jan 17th Night - Luigi/Spam Knight
Saturday, Jan 17th Day - Amy/Shadow
Sunday, Jan 18th Night - Cube/Sandal
Sunday, Jan 18th Day - Nathan Drake/The Boss
Monday, Jan 19th Night - Sonic/Lightning
Monday, Jan 19th Day - Cecil/Knuckles
Tuesday, Jan 20th Night - Ganon/Mewtwo
Tuesday, Jan 20th Day - Wesker/Ken
Wednesday, Jan 21st Night - Kirby/Rikku
Wednesday, Jan 21st Day - GLaDOS/Fawful
Thursday, Jan 21st Night - Vivi/DK
Thursday, Jan 21st Day - Altair/Liquid
Friday, Jan 22nd Night - Mario/Falco
Friday, Jan 22nd Day - Big Boss/Edgey
Saturday, Jan 23rd Night - Zidane/Claptrap
Saturday, Jan 23rd Day - Ike/Prinny
Sunday, Jan 24th Night - Mega Man/Cid
Sunday, Jan 24th Day - Zack/Yuna
Monday, Jan 25th Night - Ryu H/Crash
Monday, Jan 25th Day - Chief/Spy
Tuesday, Jan 26th Night - Sora/Midna
Tuesday, Jan 26th Day - Laharl/Neku
Wednesday, Jan 27th Night - Kefka/Arthas
Wednesday, Jan 27th Day - Bowser/Frog
Thursday, Jan 28th Night - L-Block/HK-47
Thursday, Jan 28th Day - Isaac/Layton
Friday, Jan 29th Night - Charizard/Duke
Friday, Jan 29th Day - Kratos/Tails
Saturday, Jan 30th Night - Samus/Prince
Saturday, Jan 30th Day - Niko/Jill
Sunday, Jan 31st Night - Roxas/Heavy
Sunday, Jan 31st Day - Tidus/Sub-Zero
Monday, Feb 1st Night - Phoenix/Jecht
Monday, Feb 1st Day - Ratchet/Eddie
Tuesday, Feb 2nd Night - Travis/Zelda
Tuesday, Feb 2nd Day - Ezio/Simon
Wednesday, Feb 3rd Night - Cloud/Ridley
Wednesday, Feb 3rd Day - Chris/MacMillain
Thursday, Feb 4th Night - Riku/Ramza
Thursday, Feb 4th Day - Falcon/Wander
Friday, Feb 5th Night - Leon/Vault Boy
Friday, Feb 5th Day - Sackboy/Kratos Aurion
Saturday, Feb 6th Night - Ryu/Balthier
Saturday, Feb 6th Day - Dante/Axel
Sunday, Feb 7th Night - Snake/Protoman
Sunday, Feb 7th Day - Lloyd/Fox
Monday, Feb 8th Night - Pikachu/Banjo
Monday, Feb 8th Day - Shepard/Ellis
Tuesday, Feb 9th Night - Auron/Aeris
Tuesday, Feb 9th Day - Zero/Fenix
Wednesday, Feb 10th Night - Revan/Terra
Wednesday, Feb 10th Day - Squall/Akuma
Thursday, Feb 11th Night - Sephiroth/Marth
Thursday, Feb 11th Day - Vincent/Guybrush
Friday, Feb 12th Night - Yoshi/Jak
Friday, Feb 12th Day - Crono/Missingno
Saturday, Feb 13th Night - Soap/Big Daddy
Saturday, Feb 13th Day - Ness/Geno
Sunday, Feb 14th Night - Yuri Lowell/Tifa
Sunday, Feb 14th Day - Gordon/Peach

Assuming no delays.

Thanks, Ulti (and everyone else who took the time who compiled this list).
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Lopen | Posted 12/20/2009 6:59:14 AM | message detail
Man I'm pretty sure I'm the one who said that Night/Day thing first !
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2009 7:02:07 AM | message detail
If you were, sorry about that. tran is the first person I heard it from.
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Lopen | Posted 12/20/2009 7:03:27 AM | message detail
Yeah

I told him !!

Mind you I don't really care.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/20/2009 7:25:00 AM | message detail
Sorry about that. I'll make sure that whoever posts the next topic fixes that.
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Lopen | Posted 12/20/2009 8:08:39 AM | message detail
Yeah you bloody well better.

My lawyers are already up to their neck trying to sort out the "transience rule of the first round" trademark thing we don't need this crap further complicating it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 10:32:52 AM | message detail
Uh, me and KP made that list.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 10:36:20 AM | message detail
Also working on the future rounds. I'll do my best to make an inclusive list, but some stuff is just obvious. Like I'm not going to say "Link/Thrall vs Alucard/Magus". Link vs Alucard/Magus is fine.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 11:08:45 AM | message detail
Someone check this for mistakes. I'd rather not hear any arguments about the characters I picked, by the way. Just mistakes like typos or dates being wrong or something.

ROUND 2
Monday, Feb 15th Night - Link vs Alucard/Magus
Monday, Feb 15th Day - Red/Ocelot vs MMX
Tuesday, Feb 16th Night - Luigi vs Amaterasu/Shadow
Tuesday, Feb 16th Day - Cube/Sandal vs Drake/The Boss
Wednesday, Feb 17th Night - Sonic vs Knuckles
Wednesday, Feb 17th Day - Ganondorf vs Ken
Thursday, Feb 18th Night - Kirby vs GLaDOS/Fawful
Thursday, Feb 18th Day - Vivi vs Altair/Liquid
Friday, Feb 19th Night - Mario vs Big Boss
Friday, Feb 19th Day - Zidane vs Ike
Saturday, Feb 20th Night - Mega Man vs Zack/Yuna
Saturday, Feb 20th Day - Ryu H vs Master Chief
Sunday, Feb 21st Night - Sora vs Laharl/Neku
Sunday, Feb 21st Day - Kefka/Arthas vs Bowser/Frog
Monday, Feb 22nd Night - L-Block/HK vs Isaac
Monday, Feb 22nd Day - Charizard/Duke vs Kratos
Tuesday, Feb 23rd Night - Samus vs Niko/Jill
Tuesday, Feb 23rd Day - Roxas vs Tidus/Sub-Zero
Wednesday, Feb 24th Night - Phoenix/Jecht vs Ratchet
Wednesday, Feb 24th Day - Zelda vs Ezio
Thursday, Feb 25th Night - Cloud vs Chris Redfield
Thursday, Feb 25th Day - Riku vs Captain Falcon
Friday, Feb 26th Night - Leon Kennedy vs Sackboy/Kratos Aurion
Friday, Feb 26th Day - Ryu vs Dante
Saturday, Feb 27th Night - Snake vs Fox
Saturday, Feb 27th Day - Pikachu vs Shepard/Ellis
Sunday, Feb 28th Night - Auron/Aeris vs Zero
Sunday, Feb 28th Day - Revan/Terra vs Squall
Monday, March 1st Night - Sephiroth vs Vincent
Monday, March 1st Day - Yoshi vs Crono/Missingno
Tuesday, March 2nd Night - Soap/Big Daddy vs Ness/Geno
Tuesday, March 2nd Day - Tifa vs Gordon

ROUND 3
Wednesday, March 3rd Night - Link vs MMX
Wednesday, March 3rd Day - Luigi vs Cube/Sandal/Drake/The Boss
Thursday, March 4th Night - Sonic vs Ganondorf
Thursday, March 4th Day - Kirby vs Vivi/Altair/Liquid
Friday, March 5th Night - Mario vs Zidane/Ike
Friday, March 5th Day - Mega Man vs Master Chief
Saturday, March 6th Night - Sora vs Bowser/Frog
Saturday, March 6th Day - L-Block/HK/Isaac vs Charizard/Duke/Kratos
Sunday, March 7th Night - Samus vs Tidus/Sub-Zero
Sunday, March 7th Day - Phoenix/Jecht/Ratchet vs Zelda
Monday, March 8th Night - Cloud vs Riku/Captain Falcon
Monday, March 8th Day - Leon Kennedy vs Ryu/Dante
Tuesday, March 9th Night - Snake vs Pikachu
Tuesday, March 9th Day - Auron/Aeris/Zero vs Squall
Wednesday, March 10th Night - Sephiroth vs Crono
Wednesday, March 10th Day - Soap/Big Daddy/Ness/Geno vs Tifa/Gordon

DIVISIONAL FINALS
Thursday, March 11th Night - Link vs Luigi
Thursday, March 11th Day - Sonic/Ganondorf vs Kirby
Friday, March 12th Night - Mario vs Mega Man/Master Chief
Friday, March 12th Day - Sora/Bowser/Frog vs Kratos
Saturday, March 13th Night - Samus vs Zelda
Saturday, March 13th Day - Cloud vs Ryu/Dante
Sunday, March 14th Night - Snake vs Auron/Aeris/Zero/Squall
Sunday, March 14th Day - Sephiroth vs Tifa/Gordon

QUARTERFINALS
Monday, March 15th Night - Link vs Sonic/Ganondorf/Kirby
Monday, March 15th Day - Mario vs Sora/Bowser/Frog/Kratos
Tuesday, March 15th Night - Samus vs Cloud
Tuesday, March 15th Day - Snake vs Sephiroth

FINAL FOUR
Wednesday, March 16th - Link vs Mario
Thursday, March 17th - Cloud vs Snake/Sephiroth

FINAL
Friday, March 18th - Link vs Cloud/Snake/Sephiroth

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transience | Posted 12/20/2009 11:11:16 AM | message detail
yeah, Lopen said it to me first.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/20/2009 11:35:30 AM | message detail
So Pokemon Platinum or LoZ: Spirit Tracks for DS GotY?

I'd have to say Pokemon Platinum. It's been out for longer and LoZ: Spirit Tracks has only been out for less than a month.

On the subject of GotY polls, if you assume they start on January 1st, there could only be a maximum of 14 of them (last year had 16). I am expecting a total of 12 polls to be run and they will the following:

Best DS Game
Best PC Game
Best PlayStation 3 Game
Best PSP Game
Best Wii Game
Best Xbox 360 Game
Best Multi-Platform Game
Best Running MMORPG
System of the Year
Game of the Year
Game of the Year (Final Vote)
Game of the Decade/Century (whatever Bacon decides to call it)

The above polls have been all be run before in past years. I will make a bold prediction and say that there will be no PS2 poll, because I can't think of any major PS2 exclusives released this year that weren't also released on other major consoles. I also predict the following polls will not be run at all:

Best Remake
Best New Original Title
Best Downloadable Game

Those 3 polls were only run during last year's batch of GotY polls.
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Mr3790 | Posted 12/20/2009 11:37:45 AM | message detail
For now, I shall be tagging this.
ffmasterjose | Posted 12/20/2009 11:53:18 AM | message detail
Requesting the Maxim x-stats for my bracket.

XD

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 12:47:40 PM | message detail
Thursday, March 4th Night - Sonic vs Ganondorf
Thursday, March 4th Day - Kirby vs Vivi/Altair/Liquid


Aw yeah, great birthday matches
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/20/2009 1:02:16 PM | message detail
Augh Ulti, you put Kratos instead of Charizard.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 1:02:48 PM | message detail
Don't blame him for being realistic rather than delusional.
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transience | Posted 12/20/2009 1:03:47 PM | message detail
hey, it's a better pick than Red beating X.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/20/2009 1:03:51 PM | message detail
he included Frog as a potential character in that match... Frog > Bowser and Sora is way crazier than Charizard > Kratos
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 1:04:19 PM | message detail
Lawl CT fanboy!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 1:04:37 PM | message detail
(Psst, I know he thinks Frog is a snot and I'm sure he'll bring it up anyway)
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 1:07:54 PM | message detail
Actually Frog could probably be removed from everything except round 1.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2009 1:08:26 PM | message detail
Frog > Bowser tempts me so so so much, as much as I know it's not happening. If it were a night match (or if it were a character I disliked intensely instead of my 2nd favorite Nintendo character in Bowser's place) I would take that on principle.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/20/2009 1:57:10 PM | message detail
You know, if it were a Night match, I'd probably pick Frog too. How much does Bowser usually scoop during the night? He doesn't seem like someone who would gain a lot, while Frog could probably reap the benefits there. Frog would just have to survive the morning vote to take it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2009 2:07:34 PM | message detail
The thing is that Bowser has always been closer to Mario than Frog has been to Crono. It's true that characters from the same series are not joined at the hip, but it should be pretty safe to say that even now Bowser is still a fair bit closer to Mario than Frog to Crono. Bowser looks like he has taken a tumble the last few years relative to the rest of the Mario cast, but that just makes the Mario/Bowser gap a little bigger than the Crono/Frog gap as opposed to a lot bigger like it was before.

Ignoring the night/day thing and the 12-hour format, for me to take Frog > Bowser in a normal match would require me to take Crono to not only beat Mario (I'm more than willing to do that), but to score at least 53% or so on him, based on my own estimates of the Mario/Bowser and Crono/Frog gaps. That's......not completely impossible, but a bit too much for me to take.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/20/2009 2:10:20 PM | message detail
Bowser actually does fine during the night.

I really doubt Frog would beat him in any stretch. It isn't like they're within 3 percent or anything. They aren't even in the same tier.
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pieisthebest | Posted 12/20/2009 2:13:24 PM | message detail
How about Bowser > Sora? What are the chances of that happening? Also Kirby > Sonic and Yoshi > Crono.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2009 2:14:58 PM | message detail
Well, the whole idea of Frog > Bowser was based on Frog getting a pretty big boost from CTDS to put him in Bowser's league. But this isn't like Mario/Crono where a moderate (meaning Crono gets 53-55% on his former self) boost could push Crono over the top- Frog needs a truly large boost, something like Kingdom Hearts in 2003 or Snake's Brawl boost in 2006, to beat Bowser.
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'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/20/2009 2:15:50 PM | message detail
It's...possible, barely. I don't remember Sora's trends, but I'm pretty sure Bowser's power hour vote is very good.

Kirby>Sonic is a hot upset, though if Sonic is cracking, it'll probably be to Ganondorf.

Yoshi>Crono...lol. That's all.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 2:20:28 PM | message detail
Bowser's one of the better Nintendo night characters, actually. DK's probably the best relative to his overall trends. His day vote sucks.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2009 2:20:33 PM | message detail
Bowser's has pretty balanced trends as far as Nintendo goes. Good power hour, below average night, good morning, below average DSV, above average ASV, below average SNV. Basically the standard Nintendo trends, but with a somewhat less potent day vote than most Ninty characters.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/20/2009 2:23:26 PM | message detail
Hmm...if so, I'd say there's no chance. Bowser would have to have a powerful vote to challenge Sora.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 8:34:53 PM | message detail
So is there any chance DK beats Vivi? For some reason, I don't feel as completely confident in it as some people do.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/20/2009 8:36:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2906
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3260

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 8:37:42 PM | message detail
Somehow, I knew exactly what those polls were before I even looked at them. I don't know why I didn't make the connection sooner.

Man, I forgot how awful DK looked last year.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/20/2009 9:15:27 PM | message detail
Even if, DK would go nowhere near Zero. I'm honestly puzzled at why he's less popular than he is (I mean, is his design really any worse than Nintendo characters above him?)
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2009 9:20:34 PM | message detail
Updated the BOP (34 Brackets)

http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls

Interesting Matches

Round 1

Alucard – 19
Magus – 15

Pokemon Trainer Red - 25
Revolver Ocelot – 9

Shadow the Hedgehog- 20
Amaterasu - 14

The Boss – 24
Nathan Drake - 10

Liquid Snake – 19
Altair - 15

Laharl - 23
Neku Sakuraba – 11

Arthas Menethil - 21
Kefka – 13

Charizard – 28
Duke Nukem - 6

Sub-Zero – 18
Tidus - 16

Jecht – 19
Phoenix Wright - 15

Ratchet – 26
Eddie Riggs - 8

Darth Revan – 25
Terra Branford - 9

Big Daddy – 27
Soap MacTavish - 7

Round 2

Mega Man X – 29
Pokemon Trainer Red - 5

Weighted Companion Cube - 20
The Boss – 8
Nathan Drake - 6

Vivi Ornitier - 20
Liquid Snake – 7
Altair – 7

Ike – 26
Zidane - 8

Kratos – 18
Charizard - 16

Dante - 20
Ryu – 14

Ness – 16
Big Daddy – 15
Soap MacTavish – 2
Geno - 1

Tifa Lockheart – 25
Gordon Freeman - 9

Round 3

Sonic the Hedgehog – 28
Ganondorf - 6

Sora – 21
Bowser – 13

Charizard – 16
Kratos – 14
L-Block - 4

Dante - 20
Ryu – 9
Leon Kennedy - 5

Squall Leonhart – 27
Auron - 7

Round 4

Sonic the Hedgehog – 20
Kirby - 10
Ganondorf – 4

Sora – 19
Bowser - 11
Charizard – 2
Kratos - 2

Round 5

Sephiroth – 19
Solid Snake - 15

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 9:22:53 PM | message detail
Apparently, God of War is somewhat popular in South America, and BioShock beat out God of War in America. That game seems to be a good bit more popular here than in other parts of the world.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2009 9:28:02 PM | message detail
Relative to US Canada is hyping FFXIII a lot more.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 9:29:51 PM | message detail
America seems kinda disenchanted with Final Fantasy in general these days, which seems to be part of the reason for FFVII's decrease in strength.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 9:35:47 PM | message detail
Good God is Charizard being overrated.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2009 9:39:34 PM | message detail
More points for us is what I always say.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 9:44:11 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=1740&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Really? DK is going to turn this around during a night match because of Nintendo being inflated during 4ways?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 9:45:17 PM | message detail
I don't think anyone is actually siding with DK.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2009 9:47:03 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 12/21/2009 12:39:34 AM | #042
More points for us is what I always say.


He might not even beat Duke. Beating Kratos is insane. Kratos has gone up in strength a lot every year, and last year did extremely well even while sharing all his polls with other casual bait. Charizard > Kratos means Char would be also be able to blow out Ryu, or something. That's nuts.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 9:51:05 PM | message detail
I'd say I'd have a hard time seeing Duke beat Charizard, but then I remembered I said something about Altair beating Lucario, and he nearly lost to Isaac.

(By the way, please don't jump down my throat for comparing Charizard to Lucario. I recognize there's a difference.)
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2009 9:52:29 PM | message detail
I would still take Ryu over Kratos, but I know what you mean. You know there isn't much space between Kratos and Sora/Bowser so I'm kind of surprised for the lack of people taking him as the division champ.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 9:53:12 PM | message detail
I think there's more space between Sora and Bowser than there is between Bowser and Kratos, personally.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2009 9:53:43 PM | message detail
There's also a big difference between Altair (therefore Duke) and Lucario too.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2009 9:54:39 PM | message detail
Yes, I'm aware. I just remembered that I caught myself assuming too much of Pokemon strength last year (I had Niko > Lucario in round 2 for cryin' out loud).
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