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but Nippon Ichi software's title Bombing there, could laharl already be in trouble?

I think there's a big difference between Disgaea and uh... whatever game in that poll was Nippon Ichi
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I don't know if I missed Guru nominations, but if it happened in a previous topic, sign me up!
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Okay, time to present the first serious argument for Auron > Squall since the bracket released; we knonw it's one of the most exciting matches possible here and Squall's been getting an easy ride thus far...so here are some polls for your viewing pleasure:


Against Cloud:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1770 (2004, pre-KH2, pre-Dissidia)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1341 (2003, pre-KH2)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2912 (2007, post-KH2)
[Auron got 26.8% in the last poll while Squall got 26.82% against Cloud last year, but with Sora also in the poll and watching Mewtwo beat them both I'm inclined to throw Squall's match out. If you feel otherwise, give Squall his personal victory of 0.02% in the four-way comparison against Cloud, though Auron still did nearly a percent better against Cloud one-on-one pre-KH2 than that.]

Through Crono:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2119 (2005, pre-KH2, pre-FF:AC, pre-DoC:FF7, pre-Dissidia)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2124 (2005, FF:AC leaked, pre-DoC:FF7)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2554 (2006, post-KH2)
[Auron's done the best out of any one-on-one performance against Crono, though it's hard to say neither Squall nor especially Vincent couldn't do that now. We've seen Vincent/Crono go toe-to-toe twice in the four-way format, but we don't have any immediate comparisons to make with Squall or Auron in that same regard.]

Against Sonic:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2918 (2007, post-KH2, pre-Dissidia)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2922 (2007, post-KH2, pre-Dissidia)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3290 (2008, post-KH2)
[Squall-fans have the right to complain about Sora sharing the first poll, but the Solid-connection is a harder one to complain about nowadays. Even if Squall should have beaten Sonic, Auron beat Sonic soundly. Squall would have had a hard time doing that well.]

Against Tidus:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2516 (2006, post-KH2, pre-Dissidia)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=841 (2002, no KH-series yet)
[The downer about this comparison is how the FFX-poll will be nearly eight years old when Squall/Auron hits. It also stands to reason that Auron can probably SFF Tidus harder through sharing the same game. Still, Auron only allowed 26.18% against Tidus before KH was ever released, clearly outdoing Squall's performance after both major KH-games have been out.]

Comparing games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3498 (BGE2)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507 (BGE2)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3488 (BGE2)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3499 (BGE2)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1645 (BGE1)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1660 (BGE1)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1656 (BGE1)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2593 (2006)
[We've seen FFX be bigger than FF8 and KH multiple times through-out the years. I didn't include any KH2-polls, but it could arguably be bigger than FF8 or KH here as well.]

Day-time trends:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3265&type=2&seconds=60&max=0 (2008, post-KH2, pre-Dissidia)
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3290&type=2&seconds=60&max=0 (2008, post-KH2)
[I was afraid when I first started looking into this category that Squall would have the KH-advantage over Auron in their day-time match since Squall's been a series-mainstay. However, this comparison shows Auron can still hang with him. Nintendo is almost always solid with the day-vote while Sonic has been considered a day-time legend (though I think not so much in recent years). Auron will also be fighting with Squall over any inherent advantage that KH2 gives them, so I don't think their time-frame will matter very much. Whoever should win between Auron/Squall will likely win this twelve-hour match.]


So...four points for Auron > Squall (both with and without SFF), proof on top of proof that FFX > FF8 and KH, and a challenge against the idea that a day-time match will favor the character that's been in KH more. Your move, Squall-defenders.
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DELETE THAT POST HARRICH!

We Auron pickers will look like genius' if everyone else sticks with Squall!
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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hope, you didn't end up convincng yourself to take Auron>Squall there HaRRicH.
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Shakes Fist!

I'll give everybody one chance to join us. People deserve a chance to see their mistakes and correct their wrongs.

After that, it's over.
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Yeah gonna go ahead and take Auron > Squall just for the potential upset. Can't win with a cookie cutter bracket.
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If you want to be daring, try to equate Nathan Drake to Kratos levels purely based on speculation surrounding PS3s loss of joke status, uncharted being the Goty nearly everywhere, uncharted 2 not getting backlash like RE5 and MW2, Nathan Drake being promoted a lot more as a character compared to the first one and finally the buzzword surrounding the game compared to the frst.
Though imo i see him between PoP and Altair in terms of ceiling right now, but if he hits Altair levels, well Ezio/liquid is being discussed, how about The Boss/Drake?

I know i said one point doesn't usually matter in the contest, but with it looking to be tight at the top of the leaderboard this year thanks to so many brackets looking similar, well who knows?
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Shakes Fist!

Man the more I look at the bracket the more disappointed I get. The return of 1v1 and we don't even get any possible NN breaking. Crono, Vincent, and Tifa all being fed to Sephiroth one at a time... We don't even get Vincent v Crono redux.
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I don't think Rikku has a hot enough hentai pic to pull that off.

i wouldnt say that
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Any thoughts on Arthas/Kefka?
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Yes.

Anyone stupid enough to pick Kefka deserves to lose that point.
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From: MarioSuperstar | #112
Any thoughts on Arthas/Kefka?

we saw this match in 2006 and Diablo easily beat Kefka, even at night

nuff said
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the main thing that i see for people arguing for kefka is that "He's a god at night!"

but then they seem to forget that he completely dies in the morning, kinda nullifying his night vote advantage, while Diablo/Arthas are steady at morning
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Anyone stupid enough to pick Kefka deserves to lose that point.

Yep.

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but then they seem to forget that he completely dies in the morning, kinda nullifying his night vote advantage, while Diablo/Arthas are steady at morning
The morning only lasts 3 hours though and Kefka actually doesn't have that bad of a 'college' vote so to speak.

At the same time I don't know where I'd put Arthas. Sure, he pretty much beat Diablo, but so did KOS-MOS.
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kefka, man you waste, if only VI got a PS3 remake, now then we'd be respectin ya.
heck by 2016, we should get a full PS3 remakes of the entire franchise up till IX.
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At the same time I don't know where I'd put Arthas. Sure, he pretty much beat Diablo, but so did KOS-MOS.

Arthas is without a doubt the strongest blizz character. he's had nowhere to go but up since that 2007 match, and at that point he already beat Diablo
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Auron > Squall 4 life

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shut up, meanie, just cos I took the cookie pick on that one, don't go hyping Auron>Squall, squall is prettier, I'd lick his pics if I was an idiot.
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Kefka.....how about we make Kefka the new fodder line?
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From: red sox 777 | #122
Kefka.....how about we make Kefka the new fodder line?

he sounds about right to me. Anyone who cant beat Kefka deserves to be called fodder
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I think I've figured out Alucard's Plan in this contest.

His goal is:

1: Beat Magus
2: Overperform and avoid to doubled by Link.

Then this happens.

Link SFFs MMX, Luigi, Ganondorf (because the plan says that Sonic and Kirby lose to him) and even Mario get doubled by Link.

Sephiroth gets to Cloud but also suffers a horrible beating. Then Link wins over Cloud with a huge margin.

And all of a sudden Alucard is ranked 4th in the LOL x-stats. Damn why couldn't Samus division be switched with Sora's?

That got to be the plan!
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Kefka.....how about we make Kefka the new fodder line?

Kefka isn't the fodderline yet?
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I'm feeling some bordeline fodder levels with Phoenix Wright, I think he'd be a solid choice for the fodder line.
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phoenix is obviously above fodder line in 4ways at least
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Diablo soundly beat Kefka in 2005, Arthas edged out Diablo in 2007 (and only lost to KOS-MOS due to the LFF), WoW and Arthas have gotten bigger since then (though maybe not here at GameFAQs; it's hard to tell), and the troops will be rallied if Arthas is in trouble. Kefka will need to beat Arthas with some room to win that one, and given both his track record in recent years and FF3/6's poor return to BGE2...I mean, people just love picking Kefka for some reason.
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not to mention that Arthas is FINALLY becoming fightable in WoW in mid January, after a year and 3 months of buildup in Wrath of the Lich King to the final encounter with him

kefka doesnt stand a chance
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And all of a sudden Alucard is ranked 4th in the LOL x-stats. Damn why couldn't Samus division be switched with Sora's?

Yeah, the winner of Alucard/Magus is going to look really good in the raw x-stats after the King of SFF does his work. I would laugh so hard if Magus beat Sonic in the stats again this year, especially if Sonic actually makes it to Link making his SFF excuse murkier (since not everyone here is onboard with Nintendo/Sonic SFF).
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'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

FFVI didn't do THAT badly in the contest though, sure maybe not top 10 anymore, but still a solid competitor.
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From: voltch | #131
FFVI didn't do THAT badly in the contest though, sure maybe not top 10 anymore, but still a solid competitor.

for kefka to stand a chance, he would have needed to improve in the last 3 years, not decline.
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Well all he has to hope for is Dissidia I think.
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Solid competitor? Well, it's probably still top 20, so I guess that's true. But Kefka was already pathetic when FFVI was a top 10 game, so that's not much comfort.
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Solid enough, sure, but you could probably argue it's not even top twenty anymore. That's a big change from 2005; it was sixth in the first BGE the year before and #10 on The List, and Kefka/Diablo happened in-between those times. We've seen Kefka's failures impress us more than his successes since then and his game showed a correlation -- it's no mistake.

He better hope Dissidia does wonders for him.
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Kefka wasn't exactly the easiest character to use though, I firmly believe that how good you are to use in those games, can affect your chances.
Heck i honestly believe Guile never gets in these contest cos loads of people don't know how to use a sonic boom(I can't either).
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I dunno, I think they might be pretty close together. Kefka couldn't beat Marth, Duke Nukem, and Niko while Arthas couldn't beat/barely beat LFF'd Smash Characters with little to no real games.
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as a big arthas supporter, i am insulted some people consider him at kefka level
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Well he certainly isn't going to blow him out of the water or anything if he does win. I don't think Arthas is that far away from him.
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The best I can see Arthas doing is 60%.
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From: charmander6000 | #140
The best I can see Arthas doing is 60%.

you have more faith in him then I do then! I have 55/45
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That's best case scenario though.
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I'll give you that the Marth/Ike-comparison makes it look closer. Kefka lost to Marth with 42.18% last year while Arthas beat Ike-with-Pikachu with 50.71%. I suspect Pikachu hurt Ike a good bit, but I also think Ike > Marth. Arthas still looks better in this comparison to me.
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On Squall/Auron:

I think Auron's best argument is that he beat Sonic while Squall couldn't even after Sora was gone. That match has always seemed strange to me....after Squall got as close as he did to Sonic the previous round with Sora there, I was fully expecting him to beat Sonic the next round, but Sonic held on again. I don't know why, but it might have something to do with Snake and L-Block.....or just that people saw 2 Noble Niners who are also video game icons and the L-SHAPED TETRIS BLOCK OF DOOM and gave up on Squall.

Squall is projected to get 52.45% on Auron in the 2006 stats. It's 3 years old, but Auron hasn't done anything to convince me he's closed the gap since then. Beating Sonic was impressive, but then Kirby did it too, and Squall put up a terrific 58% on Yoshi last year too. It's one of those matches that I wouldn't be surprised either way, but as Squall has always seemed stronger (and I probably have a higher opinion of his strength now and in the past than most.....Link did SFF Samus in 2003 and that was her stronger year!), I'll stay with him.

On Arthas/Kefka:

Arthas lost pretty badly to Alucard last year- he only got 42.02%. How much weaker is Kefka than the likes of Alucard and Magus, if they were indeed of similar strength last year? Knuckles's matches against them in 2004 and 2005 say that 58-42 gap is about the gap between Magus and Kefka, which looks to be a little less actually, but it should become more when you take into account that Magus and Kefka probably fell in strength from 2004 to 2005. Still, Arthas appears to have a fairly close match on his hands.
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i'd give ike a 55/45 win over marth.. at least people know his games unlike marth
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41% on Marth vs 42% on Alucard.

How's a Marth/Alucard match?


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Heck i honestly believe Guile never gets in these contest cos loads of people don't know how to use a sonic boom(I can't either).

Whoa, what, really?

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I think Arthas is going to beat Kefka fairly easily. Ike would smash Kefka, Diablo beat Kefka, ect.

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Augh why do Leon and Dante always run into each other in these things.

Augh I so want to take Frog to win two matches in a row, I hate depending on Bowser not to disappoint. Luckily their match takes place during the day.

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Ike would smash Arthas if it wasn't for Pikachu.

Also does anyone agree that this is the craziest seeding since 2002?
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