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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 765

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 12:01:07 PM | message detail
But it really was that obvious.

Of course it was!

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:01:59 PM | message detail
And yes, I was a Zack picker, but I felt it was risky. It was definently not a "no brainer"
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:02:35 PM | message detail
see this is why I don't feel bad about saying stuff like 'If you think Ocelot beats Red, you are factually wrong'

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:03:24 PM | message detail
theres no reason for it to be obvious that a main character of a FF game would struggle to beat a character who appears 5 minutes in FFVII

When that main character was Cecil (who got tripled by Kirby in 2005, for the record), there was no way he stood ANY chance of beating Zack. None.

Of course it was!

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Read any of my pre-contest posts, and I said pretty much the same thing I'm saying now. I never gave Wario a thought of getting first place in that match. Again, that match wasn't about Zack underestimation. It was about Wario overestimation. Wario could barely get 35% against Shadow the Hedgehog, for cryin' out loud. You thought he was going to break 40% against an FFVII character?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:04:12 PM | message detail
And I'm not trying to be arrogant or anything here, but honestly, picking Wario was silly. You can reason it all you want, but who likes Wario? That's all you have to ask yourself.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 12:04:35 PM | message detail
I remember when the bracket first came out, I immediately took Zack to the semis. Then I checked this topic and asked everyone if Zack > Mario was crazy. After a couple of days, I decided it was too risky and backed off of that.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 12:04:45 PM | message detail
So what exactly makes you so confident that the Pokemon fanbase loves Red as much as the Pokemon? I've gone to so many different Pokemon chatting sites (and I'm a pokemon fan myself), and hardly anybody talks about in-game Red.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:05:05 PM | message detail
See your "But it really was that obvious" comment holds as much water as mine will if Red beats Ocelot.

It wasn't. Not that it will stop either of us from saying so.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:06:24 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #155
And I'm not trying to be arrogant or anything here, but honestly, picking Wario was silly. You can reason it all you want, but who likes Wario? That's all you have to ask yourself.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3244&region=NL

they like wario!
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Jmast7 | Posted 12/16/2009 12:06:38 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #102
Except the main focus of the game is the Pokemon themselves. So Red (and Oak, Gary, Gym Leaders etc.) are more of a secondary character. Who cares about humans in the Pokemon games? If he was called Ash, he might have a chance, but he's "Red". Most kids probably named the character Ash or themselves.


Thing is, no matter what he's called if he gets the Brawl Pokemon Trainer picture in the first round, he's going to cruise. Second round with the Silver/Gold sprite against an MMX sprite? Not so much.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 12:06:38 PM | message detail
And for the record, I'm not confident about Red's strength at all. I think he's got a huge range, much much bigger than Zack's range was last year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:06:51 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #158
See your "But it really was that obvious" comment holds as much water as mine will if Red beats Ocelot.

It wasn't. Not that it will stop either of us from saying so.


Nah, mine holds more water because it already happened!

Seriously though, Red/Ocelot is more debatable than Zack/Wario was or should have been. I didn't even think much about Zack. I think I had him losing to Shadow round 2. I just knew Wario was a fat sack of crap nobody liked and had never impressed in any poll whatsoever.
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 12:07:16 PM | message detail
nobody talks about zack, but when you see him if you like FF you vote for him cos you remember how awesome he is.
you don't talk about red, but hey as soon as he enters the field, those match pics will give him an edge only big boss can hope for.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:07:49 PM | message detail
I was a Zack fan before being a Zack fan was cool!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:08:17 PM | message detail
Aside from the obvious 'main character of RBY' thing, a lot of people love Red because he's built up to be the greatest trainer of all time. He's the final boss fight of Gold/Silver, with all the most popular Pokemon from RBY (Charizard, Blastoise, Venasaur, Pikachu ect.), all of them about 20 levels higher than yours. Left a big impression on a lot of people.

He doesn't get mentioned a lot, yeah, but whenever he is mentioned I see him get a lot of love.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:08:34 PM | message detail
I just knew Wario was a fat sack of crap

even his supporters knew this!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:09:23 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #163
nobody talks about zack, but when you see him if you like FF you vote for him cos you remember how awesome he is.
you don't talk about red, but hey as soon as he enters the field, those match pics will give him an edge only big boss can hope for.


Honestly that's kind of how it works. Red is just one of those under-the-radar guys.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 12:09:24 PM | message detail
As for Red, I honestly think Mewtwo > Ganondorf is a better pick (than Red dropping MMX). Pikachu held up better against Samus last year, and if you're going to bank on SFF wonkyness, you may as well bet on the cool Pokemon and against Ganon.

I am a bit surprised that match is getting zero discussion, although I can kind of understand why. It's hard to drag "I'm counting on SFF wonkyness" to a 30-post debate.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 12:10:03 PM | message detail
I never understood why people thought Wario and Peach would have strength. Peach > Fox was all kinds of absurd.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:10:22 PM | message detail
thats cuz mewtwo is gonna get doubled
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:10:42 PM | message detail
Ganondorf is going to stomp Mewtwo into the dirt. People seem to be forgetting how well he and Sephiroth do in polls where they don't have to deal with SFF from heroes from their respective games.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:11:22 PM | message detail
Ganondorf > Bowser > Mewtwo

Can't see Mewtwo winning that one if he couldn't even beat Bowser being LFF'd by Toad (no matter how minor). There's a reason that match is getting no discussion.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 12:11:48 PM | message detail
Nah, Ganondorf seems to have trouble with any Nintendo character, not just Link. If it were Pikachu I think that match would be getting a lot more discussion.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:11:53 PM | message detail
Oh, and I doubt Ganondorf SFFs Mewtwo hardcore (LOL Leech and all that). I just don't see any way Mewtwo wins.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:12:08 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2101

mewtwo aint touching this
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 12:12:38 PM | message detail
I guess that makes sense. There are some signs that point to Red at least being decent.

1) He's playable.
2) You fight him in another popular Pokemon game.
3) In a poll with Ocelot, recognizability matters even if Pac-Man just got by and Peach is around his strength (and people supposedly don't care about these guys).
4) Again, what silent main character from a huge game has bombed?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:13:02 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #175
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2101


To be fair, Ganondorf ain't touchin' that anymore either. 2005 Ganondorf and 2005 Bowser are aberrations and their matches should never be brought up for serious stat comparisons.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:13:41 PM | message detail
4) Again, what silent main character from a huge game has bombed?

going by this logic, soap should have no problem getting to r3
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:13:50 PM | message detail
Oh, and while it is entirely irrelevant I found out you fight Red in Pokemon Stadium 2 as well just yesterday.

But every game counts!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:14:18 PM | message detail
Huge on GameFAQs, Albion. And Soap could get to R3 anyway.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/16/2009 12:14:44 PM | message detail
Soap is more comparative to Kerrigan then he is to Red.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:14:48 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #180
Huge on GameFAQs, Albion. And Soap could get to R3 anyway.


and cod4 isnt huge on gamefaqs?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:15:07 PM | message detail
No, it isn't.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 12:15:08 PM | message detail
going by this logic, soap should have no problem getting to r3

He doesn't fit that criteria. You ARE Red.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:15:25 PM | message detail
There aren't many huge RPGs with silent protagonists, honestly. Most of them aren't well-liked!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:16:09 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #184
going by this logic, soap should have no problem getting to r3

He doesn't fit that criteria. You ARE Red.


And in CoD4, you ARE soap
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:16:30 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #183
No, it isn't.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3492

huh, must have just imagined its run in last contest..
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:16:48 PM | message detail
Man, I just have a hard time taking a guy named Soap seriously. When Big Daddy isn't the goofiest name in the poll, that's saying something.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:17:22 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #188
Man, I just have a hard time taking a guy named Soap seriously. When Big Daddy isn't the goofiest name in the poll, that's saying something.


Okay fine, call him John instead. Soap is just his nickname.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:17:35 PM | message detail
Getting 60-40d by Brawl is not huge. That's decent. When CoD4 beats out Metal Gear Solid with OoT breathing down its neck, then we'll talk.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 12:17:42 PM | message detail
That's called a midcarder, Albion, not huge. It got dismantled by a Brawl that was getting held down by Mario Galaxy.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 12:17:49 PM | message detail
Wait you mean Soap is that guy you play as?

.. Damn. I didn't know that I did play the campaign mode.

Well that's even more of a reason to have him lose!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:18:15 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #190
Getting 60-40d by Brawl is not huge. That's decent. When CoD4 beats out Metal Gear Solid with OoT breathing down its neck, then we'll talk.


CoD4 and MW2 are still very popular games here. MW2 will easily win Goty here, and you don't do that by not being popular
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:18:24 PM | message detail
And this might just be me, but CoD4 fans don't seem the type to get attached to characters. It's primarily a multiplayer game, after all.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:18:52 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #192
Wait you mean Soap is that guy you play as?

.. Damn. I didn't know that I did play the campaign mode.

Well that's even more of a reason to have him lose!


He's main character of MW1 and he's your partner in most of the levels in MW2, where he has a personality and has gotten a lot more popularity
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:19:15 PM | message detail
To be fair, Brawl is probably a top 10 game.

Of course, Albion isn't exactly being fair by posting the result most favorable to his argument and not the one where Brawl beat it by 20% and it lost to MGS4 and Fallout 3.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:19:22 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #194
And this might just be me, but CoD4 fans don't seem the type to get attached to characters. It's primarily a multiplayer game, after all.


3 and 4 seeds for Soap and Price. Its kinda tough to get that high of seeds unless people actually care about the characters
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Redtooth | Posted 12/16/2009 12:19:32 PM | message detail
This is like one big pokéfear topic now isn't it...

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 12:20:22 PM | message detail
The amount of Pokefear in the lasts two contests combined still isn't anywhere near ZackFAQs

Seriously what was that

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 12:20:33 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #197
3 and 4 seeds for Soap and Price. Its kinda tough to get that high of seeds unless people actually care about the characters


We'll see with Nathan Drake, won't we?
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