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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 765
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:20:43 AM | message detail |
Because
the potential for Red bombing is much, much smaller for him simply
being strong enough to move past Ocelot in a match without incident and
then bow out to MMX. We're talking about the guy who lost to Pac-man 1
v 1. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:21:07 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #050 Who do you think makes every Pokemon picture ever? >_> --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:21:24 AM | message detail |
I've got Ocelot > Red. For me its a toss up, but since its a night vote gives Ocelot the advantage --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 11:21:26 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #051 And I wouldn't be totally flabbergasted if Red lost to Pac-Man either. Seriously, the guy could turn out to be total fodder, which is bad enough to lose to Ocelot and Pac-Man. His floor is below Ocelot. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:21:42 AM | message detail |
Because
the potential for Red bombing is much, much smaller for him simply
being strong enough to move past Ocelot in a match without incident and
then bow out to MMX. We're talking about the guy who lost to Pac-man 1
v 1. Your saying like it's impossible for Red to be below the fodder line. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
ZFS | Posted 12/16/2009 11:21:54 AM | message detail |
He's gotta beat Yuna first...! Zack wins this. --- the journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:22:49 AM | message detail |
Who do you think makes every Pokemon picture ever? >_> Didn't we get towel Kefka last year? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:22:53 AM | message detail |
And if you think Red turns out to be total fodder, I don't really know what to say to you besides 'you're wrong'. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:23:05 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #055 well I know from experience its tough to admit a character you're in love with and wanted to get into the contest so badly might actually be fodder, so I'd say its best to stop trying to debate with KP over this. its like arguing with a brick wall --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
FFDragon | Posted 12/16/2009 11:23:17 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 12/16/2009 2:20:08 PM | #049 Ha. Good one. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:23:34 AM | message detail |
Yes, and the match pics topic was the one who made towel Kefka (although I'm not sure why). --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:23:39 AM | message detail |
From: FFDragon | #060 only way Yuna stands a chance is a tjf pic --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:23:42 AM | message detail |
I think Zack was bandwagoned last year. 58% against Wario isn't that great. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 11:23:56 AM | message detail |
Well, he could be potentially. We just don't know how Pokemon human characters are. However, I can't recall one silent protagonist from a Nintendo or Square game that's bombed. Who knows. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:24:45 AM | message detail |
However, I can't recall one silent protagonist from a Nintendo or Square game that's bombed. Who knows. isn't olimar silent? I dont remember him talking --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:24:49 AM | message detail |
Man,
if the Stats Topic had any idea how the Pokemon fanbase actually worked
I wouldn't be so adamant about this. Red can be weak but fodder? Really. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 11:24:53 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #058 I'm not sure why I'm wrong. I don't see how it's impossible for the trainer to be fodder, in all honesty. The game isn't about the trainer, it's about the Pokemon, and it's possible that the fanbase doesn't care about Red enough to support him. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
transience | Posted 12/16/2009 11:25:44 AM | message detail |
you
don't need to know how the fanbase works. it's a human Pokemon
character. there's a reason we got half a dozen Pokemon in before the
main character: they just don't matter. --- xyzzy |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:25:45 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #066 lucario was fodder theres no reason to think another brawl character who couldnt even get the noms to make it last year with the wave of useless brawl fodder should be any stronger --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 11:25:51 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #063 If you're a believer in Zack/Cecil LFF, then the problem goes away. Not to mention, Zack was in matches with Link from round 2 on, and you know what Link does. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 11:25:55 AM | message detail |
Red
is going to own you're sorry asses, If I was crazy I'd take him over
over MMX, if I was insane i'd have him be a near elite, but Red is
going to be the new crono and next year thanks to his success every mon
will be replaced by the human characters and if you don't think that'll
happen then you're not crazy enough. --- Shakes Fist! |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:25:55 AM | message detail |
And if you think Red turns out to be total fodder, I don't really know what to say to you besides 'you're wrong'. Well Brawl Pokemon Trainer pic will probably be the end of him easily. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/16/2009 11:26:06 AM | message detail |
Red could be fodder, but it's unlikely. I'm thinking lower midcard is where he'll end up. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 11:26:40 AM | message detail |
isn't olimar silent? I dont remember him talking Ok, BIG Nintendo/Square game. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:26:44 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #072 and based on the name that Bacon gave him, thats the likely pic he's getting. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:27:16 AM | message detail |
I repeat my previous statement. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:27:40 AM | message detail |
Man,
if the Stats Topic had any idea how the Pokemon fanbase actually worked
I wouldn't be so adamant about this. Red can be weak but fodder? Really. Fodder isn't that bad of a word, only about 64 characters out of the 253 performed so far can be considered non-fodder. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 11:27:42 AM | message detail |
And
the thing for me...I know this is probably a bad connection to make,
but if the Pokemon Trainer is so well liked, why in the world didn't he
get in last year when practically the entire cast of Brawl made it into
the contest? I understand that there are different trainers and all that, but isn't the Pokemon Trainer in Brawl generally believed to be Red? --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/16/2009 11:28:04 AM | message detail |
lucario was fodder theres no reason to think another brawl character who couldnt even get the noms to make it last year with the wave of useless brawl fodder should be any stronger Stop using Brawl as a way to understand the Pokemon franchise. No one has mentioned or even thought of Brawl being behind Red's potential strength. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/16/2009 11:28:09 AM | message detail |
- Surprised that Ellis has almost no support against Commander Shepard In a match between two characters a lot of people on this board are unfamiliar with, they'll just take the much higher seed and run with it. That's what I did anyway. Or they realize that Mass Effect 2 will be dropping within days of that match, meaning any minute chance Ellis had is thrown out. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:29:20 AM | message detail |
honestly
if lucas got more support from people then red, theres all you need to
know about nintendo silent protagnoists not names mario/link --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:29:34 AM | message detail |
There's
no need for any of these characters to be this year's Zack, because
Zack's path was obvious last year. Yes, completely obvious, except for
that Mario match, and that match being close also should not have been
surprising. It was terrific fun because of all the resistance people
had to a supposedly minor character with 5 minutes of screentime being
decently strong. --- Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:30:19 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #082 zacks path wasn't obvious till after round 1. He had a large range; losing to wario was totally possible --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/16/2009 11:30:58 AM | message detail |
And
all this Charizard/Red hype is hilarious. They're both going against
guys that are either way stronger than their absolute ceiling (MMX) or
have a massive release on the horizon in addition to being stronger
than their ceiling (Kratos). Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit
if they both lost their round 1 matches. Red is going to be weak-ass.
Final Pokemon stats will be Pikachu > Mewtwo > Missingno >
Charizard > Red --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:31:21 AM | message detail |
If
you compare Red to Brawl characters, he'll look weak. If instead you
compare the silent protagonists of the 2nd and 3rd strongest RPGs on
this site, you get a very different and more exciting picture. --- Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:31:55 AM | message detail |
Final Pokemon stats will be Pikachu > Mewtwo > Missingno > Charizard > Red Turtle speaking the truth for once! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:32:12 AM | message detail |
zacks path wasn't obvious till after round 1. He had a large range; losing to wario was totally possible I know this sounds really arrogant, but Hochi was right. Zack > Wario was incredibly obvious. --- Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes. |
Lopen | Posted 12/16/2009 11:32:30 AM | message detail |
Man KP and his dudes with red baseball caps I swear HE'S NOT NESS, BRO --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:32:39 AM | message detail |
Stop using Brawl as a way to understand the Pokemon franchise. You don't even need to use Brawl, Lucario is considered to be one of the major mascots for Diamond and Pearl. The only possible characters that could be stronger are Garchomp and maybe the legendaries (though there no where close to some of the earlier legendaries) --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:33:52 AM | message detail |
If
you compare Red to Brawl characters, he'll look weak. If instead you
compare the silent protagonists of the 2nd and 3rd strongest RPGs on
this site, you get a very different and more exciting picture. We could go on the ensemble cast route and see how well he turns out. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:33:57 AM | message detail |
DP lost to Galaxy which lost to CoD4 which lost to GTAIV Let's not mention DP And I have Ness losing in R2 in my serious bracket. >_> --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 11:33:58 AM | message detail |
Ness vs. Red who you got --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png Vote Vault Boy! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/16/2009 11:34:17 AM | message detail |
It
still amazes me that people didn't get Zack's path right last year. The
only surprising thing was how good he looked in a very obvious SFF
situation. Aeris is his ceiling, and I doubt he even reaches that given
Crisis Core no longer being relevant. Also lol @ the people thinking
Cid will be worth a damn. It will be Cloud > Sephiroth > Vincent
> Tifa > Aeris > Zack > Cid more than likely. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 11:34:45 AM | message detail |
I actually think Red is a lot more comparable to say, Peach. A character people will only vote out of recognizability. Maybe people liking facing him in Gold/Silver? But if he's like Pac-man/Peach/any silent protagonist from a big game he'll win easily really. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
Lopen | Posted 12/16/2009 11:35:03 AM | message detail |
Ness with 55%, puttin Red round Jak level. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/16/2009 11:35:47 AM | message detail |
You
don't even need to use Brawl, Lucario is considered to be one of the
major mascots for Diamond and Pearl. The only possible characters that
could be stronger are Garchomp and maybe the legendaries (though there
no where close to some of the earlier legendaries) Using Diamond/Pearl to understand Red/Blue/Yellow is like using FFXII to understand FF7. Every character/Pokemon from RBY (with the exception of the really, really obscure Pokemon) will be stronger then every character/Pokemon from D/P/P. I'm with you guys in thinking Red is being vastly overrated, but even he would kill Lucario. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:35:50 AM | message detail |
We could go on the ensemble cast route and see how well he turns out. That's actually one of the best arguments for his strength. Because he's not really part of an ensemble cast- the pokemon are. And if the pokemon can do as well as they do despite being part of the biggest ensemble cast we've seen in a contest- the main character, the one and only main character, can do so much better. --- Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 11:36:16 AM | message detail |
But if he's like Pac-man/Peach/any silent protagonist from a big game he'll win easily really. Isn't Ocelot around that strength? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 11:37:22 AM | message detail |
Ocelot
probably loses a little more easily to Pac-man than he did the last
time. I don't know what the hell happened to him with MGS4 but it
didn't do him any favors. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lopen | Posted 12/16/2009 11:37:47 AM | message detail |
Also
uhh the whole "Pokemon RBY is unbeatable" idea kinda gets thrown out
the window when you look at Jigglypuff and Nidoran F. Now I'd probably take Red over a Nidoran F, but I sure as hell wouldn't take him over Jigglypuff-- seeing as the puff is one of the more iconic Pokemanz. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
