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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/16/2009 4:51:13 PM | message detail
Oh man you're right, but man World of Warcraft did that game fuel thing right? I mean I just want equal footing!

Yes, Mountain Dew Game Fuel was re-released earlier this year. The original Game Fuel flavor returned (the Halo 3 Game Fuel flavor from 2007), but it is called "Mountain Dew Game Fuel Horde Red" and is being used to promote World of Warcraft. In addition, a new Game Fuel flavor was also released, which is called "Mountain Dew Game Fuel Alliance Blue".

I remember back in 2007 when I posted a topic calling for GFF (Game Fuel Factor) to give Master Chief a strength boost. Looks like I was right, because the Chief went all the way up to the semifinals.

GFF is going to help out Arthas there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 4:52:33 PM | message detail
1. Soap isn't black
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 4:53:44 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #451
Oh man you're right, but man World of Warcraft did that game fuel thing right? I mean I just want equal footing!

Yes, Mountain Dew Game Fuel was re-released earlier this year. The original Game Fuel flavor returned (the Halo 3 Game Fuel flavor from 2007), but it is called "Mountain Dew Game Fuel Horde Red" and is being used to promote World of Warcraft. In addition, a new Game Fuel flavor was also released, which is called "Mountain Dew Game Fuel Alliance Blue".

I remember back in 2007 when I posted a topic calling for GFF (Game Fuel Factor) to give Master Chief a strength boost. Looks like I was right, because the Chief went all the way up to the semifinals.

GFF is going to help out Arthas there.


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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 4:54:15 PM | message detail
Results 1 - 10 of about 225,000 for Pokemon Trainer Red.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 4:55:27 PM | message detail
Wait, Red is Ash?

"Red (Pokémon) may refer to

* Pokémon Red and Blue, the first two games in the Pokémon franchise
* The protagonist of Pokémon Red and Blue and Pokémon Adventures and later appearing in the related anime series as Ash Ketchum"
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/16/2009 4:56:54 PM | message detail
Red, Ash, and Pokemon Trainer from Brawl are all essentially the same character... but not quite technically.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 4:57:48 PM | message detail
So would pictures of Ash be accepted do you think?

Cuz if its Ash, then Ocelot doesnt stand a chance
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 4:57:51 PM | message detail
Red's not Ash, but Ash was based off of Red.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 5:01:22 PM | message detail
"Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (%u30B5%u30C8%u30B7?) for all appearances in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. Created by Satoshi Tajiri as the protagonist of the video game Pokémon Red and Blue, the character has since appeared as the protagonist of the related anime and manga series, as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise."

Wait so it says Ash was created as the main character of Pokemon Red/Blue, but his name isn't Ash? OR what?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:05:37 PM | message detail
Also, you are dumb if you think a picture of Ash would be stronger than a Classix sprite picture of Ash from Red/Blue.

But we already know that you don't understand pokémon in any way.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 5:07:10 PM | message detail
If they intended it to be that way, it's changed since then. Ash has a different design from Red, Red is called Red in the games, ect. Main character of Pokemon Yellow was Ash, I think, but not Red/Blue.

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:10:01 PM | message detail
Also, since you're fond of stats, how about this one:

R/B is the best selling game OF ALL TIME that wasn't bundled. That's before you count yellow.

Charizard is the most popular thing to come out of it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 5:11:33 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1 | #462
Also, since you're fond of stats, how about this one:

R/B is the best selling game OF ALL TIME that wasn't bundled. That's before you count yellow.

Charizard is the most popular thing to come out of it.


isnt it kinda unfair to count 2 different games as one?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 5:13:53 PM | message detail
especially since the whole thing of needing both games to collect all pokemon was just a ploy for people to buy it twice, so i doubt it was 31 million seperate people buying the games
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 5:15:03 PM | message detail
I'm confused, who is arguing with who?
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 12/16/2009 5:15:29 PM | message detail
Hey guys! Let's change subjects!

So which #1 Seed is gonna have the worst first round performance? Place your bets!
My money's on Mega Man.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 5:16:12 PM | message detail

From: Masato_Tanaka | #466
Hey guys! Let's change subjects!

So which #1 Seed is gonna have the worst first round performance? Place your bets!
My money's on Mega Man.


uh he's not a #1 seed
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:18:23 PM | message detail
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #464
especially since the whole thing of needing both games to collect all pokemon was just a ploy for people to buy it twice, so i doubt it was 31 million seperate people buying the games

They're the same game. They have the same story, the same cast, the same everything. The starters are the same. The differences are literally that something like 8 pokémon aren't available in one but are exclusive to the other. So about the same as the different editions of Nintendigs, or is it unreasonable to lump Chihuahua & Friends in with Labrador & Friends?

You had one and your friend had the other.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:20:14 PM | message detail
Let's assume you meant Noble Niner instead of 1 seed.

Megaman could do pretty badly on Cid before you could really call his performance disappointing. I vote Crono, Sonic, or Sephioth. Missingno is a joke and they're always unpredictable, Sonic is Sonic and I'm wary of how this format will treat FFVII, especially Sephiroth.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 12/16/2009 5:21:02 PM | message detail
Odd, I could of sworn he was. Course I've only looked at the bracket once now. Well yeah, we'll go with Noble Niner then.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/16/2009 5:21:44 PM | message detail
If we're going by Noble Niners, then Mega Man by far. He might let Cid get 40% on him
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Jman_maximum | Posted 12/16/2009 5:34:17 PM | message detail
how is the noble9 being ranked these days?

from the last contest i'd say

Link> Cloud > Seph > Snake > Samus > Mario > Crono > Megaman > Sonic

is that about right?

also is Vincent still agreed to be the strongest non n9?
charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:35:01 PM | message detail
Flip Mario and Samus
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:36:44 PM | message detail
You've got it! Or at least that's how I would rank the Noble Nine too, for indirect strength. Vincent still holds his Noble Nine Challenger #1 spot by default, but Squall's chances for it are just as good I think.
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Master Moltar | Posted 12/16/2009 5:46:46 PM | message detail
Flip Snake and Samus
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/16/2009 5:53:48 PM | message detail
So what does everyone expect from the vote totals this year? Are we thinking early SC2K2 numbers (50-75k)? SC2K4 numbers (80-95k)? Or do we think we'll be able to break 100,000 on a regular basis?

I'm predicting 60k on the night matches and 80k on the day matches.

It's been suggested before that the people voting only in the day matches would be unlikely to vote in the night matches, while those voting in the night matches would be likely to vote in the day matches. Because of this, I think the weekend night matches might be a little higher than weekday night matches because the people who normally go to sleep early (due to school the next day) wouldn't have to worry about school on the weekend and so they would stay up late enough to vote in the night matches.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 5:54:05 PM | message detail
Switched to Sub-Zero. I like both characters (can't rely on fanboyism) and there are no arguments that seal the deal for either, so I'm just going with Tidus's history as a choker. It's basically the same reason I'm going with Alucard.

Are we in agreement that those are pretty much the toughest Round 1 matches, or at least among them?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/16/2009 5:57:17 PM | message detail
Some other tough ones for me are...

Neku/Laharl
Fawful/Glados
Drake/Boss

Still not sure who I'm siding with on those
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RPGuy96 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:59:02 PM | message detail
I actually picked Subby without paying much attention. Maybe I should have...Mega Man/Tidus and Auron/Sub-Zero were pretty much the same.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 5:59:04 PM | message detail
Neku/Laharl is a hard match, but it's also a match that's hard to care about.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:01:31 PM | message detail
Noble Nine is probably more like Link > Cloud > Seph > Mario > Snake > Samus > Sonic > Mega Man > Crono

I don't think Snake has what it takes to beat out Mario.

As for the bottom 3, I'm not convinced that Sonic is as bad as people think. My general feeling is that the 4-way format was playing tricks with us. He still walloped Crono in 2k6 and I don't really see any reason for that to change. Mega Man/Crono would be a tossup for me.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:03:51 PM | message detail
I care about Neku/Laharl!

What about Phoenix/Jecht? They both strike me as pretty damn weak, but at least we've seen Phoenix before....
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/16/2009 6:06:26 PM | message detail
Phoenix is a product of the 4ways I think. He was pretty weak in 2006, and I don't see him able to get 50% in a 1v1.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:08:27 PM | message detail
From: Cyclo_Reaper | #483
Phoenix is a product of the 4ways I think. He was pretty weak in 2006, and I don't see him able to get 50% in a 1v1.

Think of it like this:

In a Dig Dug/Tanner match SOMEONE has to get 50%, even if only 500 peoploe vote.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:09:41 PM | message detail
Jecht isn't that weak. I'd be pretty surprised if Phoenix won that. I'd enjoy it for sure, but I don't see it happening.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 6:10:12 PM | message detail
Phoenix has a night match that's destined to get some of the worst votals of the contest. If he's simply near Jecht's range, his fanbase can will him to it for 12 hours.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:11:58 PM | message detail
We've seen incredibly weak people win before, I don't like that argument at all. Phoenix also drew 46k votes in 2006, which is probably enough to win a half-day match comfortably.

I mean, yeah, he's weak, but Jecht? That's not exactly stiff competition.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:12:55 PM | message detail
Yeah, I actually decided to switch to Phoenix in that one. It's hard to guess where Jecht is, but I thought he could be seen as kind of analogous to Magus- as in he's as strong relative to other FFX characters as Magus is relative to CT characters. Only, CT is a stronger game, and Jecht should be further down the line due to have less screentime and just getting less attention from the fanbase in general. The other thing is that Phoenix should be helped a bit by the format if it does turn out that people who follow the contest (read: early voters) will vote in either poll.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:14:45 PM | message detail
Why are we all assuming Jecht is going to be balls? Because he's never gotten in before? Because he's an NPC? Neither of those are that great of arguments I don't think.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:17:05 PM | message detail
Well, how close do you think he'll be to Tidus/Yuna/Rikku in strength? I figure he'll be a good deal weaker than them at least (as in 55-45 minimum indirectly), and you really don't have to go too far below that before you do reach Phoenix level, especially with a 12-hour poll to help him out.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:17:44 PM | message detail
Because he's, well, Jecht, and pretty much every FF villain outside of Sephiroth is balls. Jecht is almost certainly weaker than Tidus by a wide margin, and that's not terribly strong.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 6:17:56 PM | message detail
New characters are always going to be doubted. Jecht was never talked about until we had pretty much exhausted the well of contest characters, Sin lost to Robotnik, and Phoenix is veteran of these things now (albeit a weak one). Combine those with the assumption that this format can help guys like Phoenix, and there you go. He seems like an alright pick.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:18:00 PM | message detail
Hmm, methinks that's some Phoenix overestimation, but we'll see.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 6:21:02 PM | message detail
Also we haven't seen Phoenix in 1 on 1 since 2006; who's to say he hasn't gained at least a tiny bit?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/16/2009 6:23:27 PM | message detail
We've seen incredibly weak people win before, I don't like that argument at all. Phoenix also drew 46k votes in 2006, which is probably enough to win a half-day match comfortably.

I mean, yeah, he's weak, but Jecht? That's not exactly stiff competition.


Jecht would surely be weaker than Gordon, who already defeated Phoenix in 2006. I'd give Phoenix a chance at pulling off a win here. Even though Jecht has the night vote, Phoenix should do fine with the dead zone and morning vote. Phoenix is stronger in Europe than in North America:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3249&region=EUR
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3278&region=EUR

First round was mostly Phoenix doing much better in Europe due to Geno bombing there. In round 2, Phoenix actually defeated Bowser in Europe.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 6:24:08 PM | message detail
It's just too easy to imagine Phoenix jumping out to a huge 30 minute lead while his fanbase realizes they only have to hold it for half the time (and realizing he'd also be guaranteed to win the next round). Jecht has to be legitimately a couple of notches above Phoenix to get around that. I'd rather trust the guy with crazy fans and a crazy early vote.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:26:13 PM | message detail
Phoenix really didn't do badly in 2006. He pulled off a respectable 42% to Gordon- yes it wasn't the Gordon we know now, but it wasn't classic GFNW fodder Gordon either. He was projected through Gordon and Sora to get 27.57% on Megaman.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 6:27:35 PM | message detail
comparing soap to macmillan is a mistake. its like comparing Mario to Toad

MacMillan appeared in one level of CoD4. Soap is the main character of both games


And yet MacMillan made the contest last year, not Soap.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 6:28:14 PM | message detail
He was projected through Gordon and Sora to get 27.57% on Megaman.

And Tidus gets like, what on Mega Man today? 37/38%

So Jecht actually has some nice room there.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/16/2009 6:28:18 PM | message detail
Results 1 - 10 of about 40,800 for don't drop the soap mactavish.
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