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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 764

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/16/2009 12:35:36 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #399
Cid Highwind needed a huge NRT push to get into the qualifying rounds and you think Barret (who isn't even on the ballot) is any sort of contender?

Yeah, think I'm done for the night.


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swirIdude | Posted 12/16/2009 12:36:51 AM | message detail
I don't think Albion is saying Barret is a contender, he's just saying that he likely had more noms than a fodderous character like Tanner and missed the FF7 cut. This is entirely possible.

Though in the individual case of Tanner, I must point out that the 2k4 nominations started at the same time Driv3r came out, so that helped Tanner immensely.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/16/2009 12:42:36 AM | message detail
Tanner didn't necessarily get in because of nominations. Only the Top 32 nominations getters got in based sorely on nominations. I'm willing to bet Tanner got in just because he was from a recent game and probably got a couple nominations. Also Aeris wasn't even in the Top 100 that year and Cid was probably even worse. Tanner actually getting more nominations might not be as surprising as you might think.
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UItimaterializer | Posted 12/16/2009 12:42:52 AM | message detail
I still say Snake SFFd Tanner
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/16/2009 12:59:20 AM | message detail
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/16/2009 1:14:35 AM | message detail
Another interesting factor here is that with twelve hours, rallies are going to be incredibly difficult to pull off. I can't see 4chan, Steam, or Twitter rallies doing too much damage in a 24-hour fourway match, so what the hell are they going to do in a twelve-hour 1v1 match? Even if there are less votals, I doubt they'll be half a 24-hour match, more like 70-80%. That still won't do much damage, so I wouldn't expect Gordon to steamroll through the competition or L-Block and WCC to go past their intrinsic strength.

I think rallies could do more damage here because 12 hour matches are going to get lower votals than a 24 hour match. They were never really that effective on here because of the high votals per match. Rallies will probably be more effective in the day matches than in the night matches because more people will be online then.

We've already seen rallies do considerable damage in GameSpot's contest, though votals were much lower and also spread across a period of a week.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/16/2009 1:17:14 AM | message detail
Valve has enough rally power to affect even 24 hour GameFAQs Contest polls. What other rallys were there in the GameSpot contest?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/16/2009 1:22:26 AM | message detail
What other rallys were there in the GameSpot contest?

4chan was rallying a bit in the contest, for the Bub/Bob matches. I don't know if this was 4chan or not, but Cloud in round 1 was losing updates to Lester.

Valve has enough rally power to affect even 24 hour GameFAQs Contest polls.

Yeah, we saw firsthand a few days ago that Spy was capable of pulling in over 30% updates in a 12-way poll. So Valve should be a big rally force here.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/16/2009 1:26:46 AM | message detail
4chan was caught cheating in Bub&Bob matches so I wouldn't count that as a rally. I get the feeling they were behind the Lester vs Cloud thing as well.
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Kaxon | Posted 12/16/2009 1:55:52 AM | message detail
Alright, a few thoughts on the bracket.

- SB completely sucks at designing brackets. Sonic vs Knuckles, Auron vs Aeris r1, Sephiroth vs Vincent, then Crono, then Tifa... ugh. But in spite of that this is STILL ten times better than the four way crap we've been putting up with, and the ToC BS before that. I would have been so excited if we had this format for BGE2... better late than never.
- Magus vs Alucard - I picked Magus because I figured both he and Alucard have been dropping for years, and CT is still bigger than SoTN. But I forgot about Magus losing to Sandbag, I'm not sure if I'll reconsider this one.
- Mega Man vs Cid - I've utterly and completely lost faith in Mega Man at this point... I always hope for good things from him and then he goes from nearly even with Sephiroth to getting blown out by him, to getting SFFed by Link, and from beating Snake by 14% to losing by 10%, and finally to losing to Weighted Companion Cube. So screw it, I'm picking Cid here.
- Dante vs Ryu - Has Dante had anything recently? I pick Ryu here since SF4 was pretty big and it's hard for me to picture Ryu losing this when he's more relevant than he's been in 10 years.
- Guybrush Threepwood makes the contest yet again, as a 9 seed! I wonder if the Steam release of Monkey Island will boost him... if so maybe he'll break 11% in the xstats for the first time ever. I'll probably vote for him because of the Steam rerelease.
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 12/16/2009 2:03:14 AM | message detail
Hmm, my initial breeze through without analyzing much and looking at past brackets has given me all number 1s in the elite eight. That... probably isn't going to happen. Although, I can't see how Link, Cloud, Mario or Snake don't reach the final eight.

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UItimaterializer | Posted 12/16/2009 2:07:16 AM | message detail
I'm disappointed all 4 1 seeds will probably make the Elite 8. Sonic and Sora are the only ones with ANY chance of losing before then.
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Kaxon | Posted 12/16/2009 2:20:14 AM | message detail
Gordon Freeman > Sephiroth... believe!
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ffmasterjose | Posted 12/16/2009 2:32:32 AM | message detail
Augh so many changes to my bracket.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/16/2009 3:30:39 AM | message detail
I'd still love to know how the hell Gordon ****ing Freeman got a 2 seed. What has he had in the last 2 years?
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Redtooth | Posted 12/16/2009 3:50:26 AM | message detail
I personally love that Guybrush makes it back every year. I don't understand how he gets a 9 seed though...I know I nommed him but I can't be in the majority on that one. >_>

How Vincent got to be on the other side of that 8 seed, I'll never understand either. Couldn't Guybrush have faced Laharl, Cecil, Niko or Llyod? You know...someone he might have gotten some votes against.

And I can't personally stop looking at this fourpack:
Vivi
DK
Altair
Liquid


Not that I can even decide if they go on to face Ganon or Sonic after...

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Xcarvenger | Posted 12/16/2009 4:32:02 AM | message detail
I'd still love to know how the hell Gordon ****ing Freeman got a 2 seed. What has he had in the last 2 years?

Gordon Freeman has just won the GameSpot Contest which GameFAQs linked to a lot, so people here catches on. but I have a funny feeling that his match with Peach will be hilariously close than it should be, especially since it's gonna be a day match...

I personally love that Guybrush makes it back every year. I don't understand how he gets a 9 seed though...I know I nommed him but I can't be in the majority on that one.

If Phoenix can get a 3 seed, I don't see what's wrong with Guybrush getting a 9! Still kinda disappointed that CATS has to be cut though; I think CATS would be in the 13-16 area (like he loved to!) instead of being just outside the original bracket... darn you bubbles!
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WhatTheDarn | Posted 12/16/2009 4:55:18 AM | message detail
No CATS? I guess he's just too "this decade"...
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jonthomson | Posted 12/16/2009 5:40:03 AM | message detail
How dare Bacon sacrifice Ridley to Cloud. Boo that man.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 12/16/2009 6:03:39 AM | message detail
Time to put the Round 1 matches into tiers based on their predictability:

Tossed-up: Could go either way
Alucard / Magus
Amaterasu / Shadow
Laharl / Neku
Isaac / Layton
Niko / Jill
Roxas / Heavy
Tidus / Sub-Zero
Ratchet / Eddie Riggs
Ness / Geno

Debatable: Both sides have good arguments
Red / Ocelot
Nathan Drake / The Boss
Ganondorf / Mewtwo
Wesker / Ken
Kirby / Rikku
Altair / Liquid Snake
Zack Fair / Yuna
Kefka / Arthas
Charizard / Duke Nukem
Phoenix / Jecth
Chris / MacMillan
Crono / Missingno
Soap / Big Daddy

Small upset potential: There are just too much unknown to debate or call this a lock for now
John Price / MMX
WCC / Sandal
GlaDOS / Fawful
Mega Man / Cid Highwind
Master Chief / Spy
L-Block / HK-47
Ezio / Simon
Riku / Ramza
Sackboy / Kratos Aurion
Shepard / Ellis
Auron / Aerith
Darth Revan / Terra
Gordon / Peach

Locked-in: unless there is a huge outside interference happening
Link / Thrall
Luigi / Meta Knight
Sonic / Lightning
Cecil / Knuckles
Vivi / Donkey Kong
Mario / Falco
Big Boss / Edgeworth
Zidane / Claptrap
Ike / Prinny
Ryu Hayabusa / Crash Bandicoot
Sora / Midna
Bowser / Frog
Kratos / Tails
Samus / Prince of Persia
Travis / Zelda
Cloud / Ridley
Falcon / Wander
Leon / Vault Boy
Ryu / Balthier
Dante / Axel
Snake / Proto Man
Lloyd / Fox
Pikachu / Banjo
Zero / Marcus Fenix
Squall / Akuma
Sephiroth / Marth
Vincent / Guybrush
Yoshi / Jak
Yuri / Tifa

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Redtooth | Posted 12/16/2009 6:06:12 AM | message detail
Crash > Ryu, come on

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jonthomson | Posted 12/16/2009 6:19:42 AM | message detail
Debatable: Both sides have good arguments
Crono / Missingno

really?
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 6:23:56 AM | message detail
who the heck is john price?
If you have a normal sounding name you and come from a western name, hances are likely that you suck in a gamefaqs contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 6:25:10 AM | message detail
Strangest predictability tier I've ever seen.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 12/16/2009 6:26:47 AM | message detail
Debatable: Both sides have good arguments
Crono / Missingno

really?


this year's L-Block, day match, etc
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 6:28:04 AM | message detail
but mewtwo/ganondorf is nowhere near being debatable.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:28:14 AM | message detail
Wow this board has a serious case of pokefear.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:29:26 AM | message detail
this year's L-Block, day match, etc

You do know that Crono still defeated Pikachu in the day.
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 6:34:10 AM | message detail
i'm getting the impression people think top tier characters get no votes at all during their weak times.
but how many times have we seen cases where they just increase their lead more slowly instead of continuing to crush their opponents.
also people are debating crono/missingno more than yoshi/crono?
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transience | Posted 12/16/2009 6:36:19 AM | message detail
I hope 2011 has the Top 6 out for a ToC with the two finalists and a better bracket. Watching Crono, Mega Man, Vincent, Squall, Auron, and Kirby battle it out for Contest Champ would be fantastic.

I have been behind this for years. it won't happen but those six and then the winner/loser of the final being thrown into a top 8 contest a la 2005 would be the best possible result. as you said, Sora's division is probably the best one, along with Sonic's.

as for the whole Pokemon thing, Charizard is a reasonable pick. I won't be taking it but there are worse picks being championed right now. (like Red - I really wish this dude had a decent path so he could bomb hard) the arguments in here are pretty awful though. just say he's the most popular starter from the 3rd biggest game on the site and leave it at that. different people attach different meanings to that statement. that's a good thing.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 12/16/2009 6:45:55 AM | message detail
You do know that Crono still defeated Pikachu in the day.

Good to hear! I was tempted to lock-in Crono / Missingno, but Missingno is like the ultimate joke character (I know we said this about Sandbag last year too, but this is different! More people get this joke! and it's a real joke to boot!).

If people get any hype to it, there is bound to be rallies. BIG rallies (aka "stuffing"). I'll still pick Crono regardless. Yoshi is a non-issue if Crono can pass Missingno.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:52:13 AM | message detail
Speaking of Red I have him losing to Ocelot.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 6:54:15 AM | message detail
I honestly don't know how people feel about their Pokemon Trainers.
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WhatTheDarn | Posted 12/16/2009 6:54:32 AM | message detail
What does everyone think about Neku vs. Laharl? I've seen convincing arguments on both sides.
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 6:56:45 AM | message detail
laharl wins his first match ever, I mean TWEWY is Square, but it's a square handheld, laharl's series has been whored out so much he has enough exposure to take this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 6:57:47 AM | message detail
What does everyone think about Neku vs. Laharl? I've seen convincing arguments on both sides.

Last year Neku got 22.05% on Ganondorf while Laharl got 24.66% on Dante

Over/under Dante getting 45% on Ganondorf?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/16/2009 6:59:29 AM | message detail
A match between fodder of those levels is just going to be a recognizably thing.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/16/2009 7:01:00 AM | message detail
That may give Laharl an advantage since this is his fifth contest.
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 7:02:19 AM | message detail
it's not that important a match though, whoever wins, loses next round anyway.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/16/2009 7:52:55 AM | message detail
Hmm....Neku probably underperformed in that match because there were 3 JRPG characters against Ganondorf, and Neku was the weakest of them. Plus the first hour didn't have pictures, and as soon as the pictures were added Neku skyrocketed while Ganondorf plummeted (not that this is worth more than a fraction of a percent).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/16/2009 8:02:48 AM | message detail
Did Mewtwo need the NRT to get in the first time? I don't recall.

Yep, Mewtwo probably got more NRT support than any character we ever had. He had well over 100 pledges the year he won.

Also, taking Missingno to beat Crono is probably the most ludicrous upset of all-time because people are making too big of a deal over the fact that it's a day match. If it wouldn't be close for 24 hours, it won't be close for 12 hours. Reducing the match to 12 hours isn't going to turn a tripling into an upset win for Missingno. Just forget it.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/16/2009 8:06:52 AM | message detail
I'm still pissed Missingno is wasted against Crono. I think Missingno has good potential to upset a few midcarders, but if L-Block couldn't beat Crono in a four-way, what hope does Missingno have? The only thing we can hope for is Missingno escaping a doubling, and even that has a very slim chance of happening.

There's just so much wasted potential in this bracket.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/16/2009 8:10:12 AM | message detail
Suggestion: Add the start times of the polls to the first post of the topic. Clear things up and keeps things simple.

Even though I don't think they'll be important, it'll help those who are using trends to make decisions.
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transience | Posted 12/16/2009 8:17:21 AM | message detail
Missingno won't win because of it being a day match. it could win based on there being a massive rally staged for it.
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SoBe | Posted 12/16/2009 8:26:34 AM | message detail
Good Matchups

- Sonic vs. Lightning: hahahaha, this is classic. Biggest opening round for a 1-seed since Halo/Starcraft. Sonic probably takes it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't...



I don't think "classic" is the right word for this. Bull **** would be far more appropriate. I'm surprised more people haven't been raging over her being paired up with him.

Of course, I give Lightning a shot against Sonic, so apparently I am insane

Hey I'm with you. Sonic hasn't had a decent game since SA2B on the cube. FFXIII is about to be released, and people were up in arms about it not getting a perfect score in Famitsu. The potential for it isn't large, but I'm hoping that this is the biggest blindside upset of the whole contest.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/16/2009 8:27:38 AM | message detail
Do we have an easy list of night/day matches yet?

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/16/2009 8:29:09 AM | message detail
It's pretty easy to figure out which matches are night and day just by looking at the bracket. Assuming Link/Thrall is at night (and there's no reason to believe the contest wouldn't start at midnight like it always does).
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transience | Posted 12/16/2009 8:29:43 AM | message detail
if the top seed is an odd number, night match.
if the top seed is an even number, day match.

Lightning's going to get destroyed. 50% of the voters don't even know what the heck a Lightning is.
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voltch | Posted 12/16/2009 8:34:47 AM | message detail
Don't we have the fodder fluctation factor?
I'm very skeptical about using raw x-stats for those kinds of characters, so in matches involving both of them like geno/ness and ellis/shephard or neku/laharl i'm more on the fence, those matches could end up being blowouts for all we know because fodder characters are just weird.
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