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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 763

paulg235 | Posted 12/15/2009 11:12:41 AM | message detail
It's bracket time, boys!

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/15/2009 11:36:59 AM | message detail
Squall to the Final Four, book it!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/15/2009 12:10:20 PM | message detail
Squall/Auron? Ellis going to round 2? Charizard/Duke???

Crazy contest!
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/15/2009 12:12:47 PM | message detail
Sora/Bowser is also an awesome match, and kickass that Tifa and Vincent get killed by Sephiroth!
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:13:55 PM | message detail
vivi/dk rematch?
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:15:34 PM | message detail
aww crap Zack vs yuna.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 12/15/2009 12:16:39 PM | message detail
so much fodder
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Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest.
swirIdude | Posted 12/15/2009 12:17:21 PM | message detail
Someone, get out our list of voting blocks. We're going to need them with 12 hour matches.
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:19:51 PM | message detail
well you mean someone do an entire X-stats based on trends?
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yazzy14 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:20:57 PM | message detail
So does the first match start with the night vote from 9:00 PM Pacific to 9:00 AM Pacific?
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:21:27 PM | message detail

From: yazzy14 | #010
So does the first match start with the night vote from 9:00 PM Pacific to 9:00 AM Pacific?


should be
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:21:32 PM | message detail
I have Geno winning two rounds

I have Ratchet winning a round

this feels so wrong
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paulg235 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:22:58 PM | message detail
The Jenova Division is just a trainwreck waiting to happen.

I mean, just look at it! Sephiroth could potentially destroy Vincent, Crono and Tifa in that order.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:23:44 PM | message detail
My preliminary bracket features Snake making the finals.

Is this awesome y/n?
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xp1337 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:23:45 PM | message detail
Might have missed something while looking at things, but do we know if the first match is a "day" match (9 AM - 9 PM) or a "night match" (9 PM - 9 AM)?

I'm actually thinking night, because January 14 at 9 PM PST would be January 15 at 12 AM EST, so it would fit with how the poll currently changes, but just checking because of the huge implications it has.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:23:46 PM | message detail
Oh God I'm torn

Samus/Jecht looks like a night match... and FFX does great at night and Samus bombs at night...
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:23:53 PM | message detail
*Final, rather.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/15/2009 12:24:07 PM | message detail
Tag.
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xp1337 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:24:20 PM | message detail
Ah. Never mind that then, I was too slow in asking that.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:24:46 PM | message detail
Samus/Jecht looks like a night match... and FFX does great at night and Samus bombs at night...

Samus/Jecht doesn't look like a match at all.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:24:57 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #012
I have Geno winning two rounds

I have Ratchet winning a round

this feels so wrong


Read this as Ratchet winning two rounds.

I was going to rage something fierce.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/15/2009 12:25:16 PM | message detail
Wow, The Boss can actually win matches...
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:25:40 PM | message detail
oh man, you guys thinking l-block is going up against Kratos?
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:26:12 PM | message detail
Nathan vs. The Boss seems like a day match.

She's boned.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:21 PM | message detail
Man I'm really hyped for this contest. This is a great gimmick, I'm surprised none of us thought of it
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:21 PM | message detail
The sad thing is that the only Noble Niner who gets challenged is Sonic. And that's by Ganondorf, and maybe Kirby.

Sonic/Kirby is gonna be highly anticipated for me.
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:22 PM | message detail
Laharl to win his first match then.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:23 PM | message detail
Sorry, but I'm not going to ditch one of my favorite characters for Nathan "I was tripled by CATS" Drake.
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Lopen | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:36 PM | message detail
So interesting things, assuming the bracket starts with a Night match as the rules seem to imply:

- All of Link's matches will be at night. Alucard > Link all part of the plan !
- All of Sora's matches will be night matches. "Lol fodder"
- All of Master Chief's matches will be day matches. GAME FUEL, believe.
- Crono vs Missingno is a day match haha this could be fun.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:41 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #026
The sad thing is that the only Noble Niner who gets challenged is Sonic. And that's by Ganondorf, and maybe Kirby.

Sonic/Kirby is gonna be highly anticipated for me.


Crono/Missingno is a hell of a match if its a day match
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/15/2009 12:27:53 PM | message detail
I'm not a huge fan of 12 hour matches. Vote totals will suck for night matches.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/15/2009 12:28:00 PM | message detail
Leonhart, before you even say it, you know I'm taking you up on the sig bet for Auron/Squall. We'll say from the day after the match until the end of the contest, deal?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/15/2009 12:28:25 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #027
Laharl to win his first match then.


Neku wins, believe
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/15/2009 12:28:53 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #032
Leonhart, before you even say it, you know I'm taking you up on the sig bet for Auron/Squall. We'll say from the day after the match until the end of the contest, deal?


I already made a topic calling you out, son!

That's the match of the contest for me.
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:29:03 PM | message detail
... Wait, what?

*Checks wiki*

Well, damn...
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xp1337 | Posted 12/15/2009 12:29:37 PM | message detail
Crono vs Missingno is a day match haha this could be fun.

...oh god.

...At least the end of the day match is traditional CT Comeback Time!
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:30:00 PM | message detail
Also, seeing Ike get two free wins is definitely a delight.

Even better, it's off the Guru's nom!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/15/2009 12:30:13 PM | message detail
I'm a big CT fan

but oh man am i gonna be rooting for missingno just for the chaos that will ensue
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:30:15 PM | message detail
megaman vs MC becomes tricky as a day match, Alucard vs Magus in the day, will have about 5 votes the 2nd seeds seem all over the place.
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Lopen | Posted 12/15/2009 12:30:41 PM | message detail
Dammit I wish Kefka were the 8 seed, I'd totally think about taking him over Sora.

Sad thing is there are NO CHALLENGES for Sora except for like... Bowser, in his division. How terrible.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/15/2009 12:30:58 PM | message detail
I'm hesitating a lot more on Sonic/Kirby than on Sonic/Ganon. I just don't think the villain can take a Noble 9er, but Kirby already did the job last year...
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:31:27 PM | message detail
wait a min Jecht ain't beating ZELDA.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/15/2009 12:31:28 PM | message detail
The awesome thing is that 4 of the 5 NRT winners made it in, as did Prinny. They all have winnable matches except for Cid, unless he turns out to be Vincent-level, which I doubt.

Big Boss/Edgeworth and Phoenix/Jecht are too much awesome to be contained in one match.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/15/2009 12:31:39 PM | message detail
Am I crazy for picking Chief over Mega Man since its a day match?
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Spark Mandrill | Posted 12/15/2009 12:31:55 PM | message detail
I don't know what to think about Sonic, but I can't see him struggling that badly 1v1. I need a lot more time to think it over.
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Master Moltar | Posted 12/15/2009 12:32:00 PM | message detail
Hyrule

Allen didn't go easy on Red. Ocelot and then MMX ouch. Even if he gets past that, it's over at Link.

Shadow to Round 2! Luigi upset is real because Shadow "45% on Mario" the Hedgehog is back in business!

The Boss to Round 3 let's do this
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Lopen | Posted 12/15/2009 12:32:04 PM | message detail
I'm picking it

Unfortunately Mario vs MC in the next round will be a night match :/
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/15/2009 12:32:14 PM | message detail
You are bananas.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/15/2009 12:32:49 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #042
wait a min Jecht ain't beating ZELDA.


oh you're right, that should be a day match. if it was night i'd love that upset though!
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voltch | Posted 12/15/2009 12:33:40 PM | message detail
Ryu vs Dante, the winner beats Leon Kennedy for sure, but it's a tricky tie.
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