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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 762

LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:10:52 PM | message detail
This topic wouldn't have 762 parts, that's for sure.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:11:25 PM | message detail
If the stats topic followed that logic stuff like Vincent vs. Dante and World of Warcraft wouldn't happen.

I don't understand. The stats topic didn't set up the bracket placement for either of those.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:12:28 PM | message detail
I thought we were talking about Crono > Mario?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/14/2009 5:13:20 PM | message detail
If someone promised a new format and all they did was make it bigger, you'd be left with a lot of unhappy campers if you were a politician.

It's safe to assume it won't be 1v1 128
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:13:40 PM | message detail
I was saying that we should avoid getting rid of possible upsets just because we think they won't happen. Which in this case would be Mario/Crono.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:14:23 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #304
If someone promised a new format and all they did was make it bigger, you'd be left with a lot of unhappy campers if you were a politician.

It's safe to assume it won't be 1v1 128


yeah, bacon is too hard headed to realize that would be like the best contest ever
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:14:54 PM | message detail
If someone promised a new format and all they did was make it bigger, you'd be left with a lot of unhappy campers if you were a politician.

The board wants 1v1 so badly that I don't think people would care.
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LOLContests | Posted 12/14/2009 5:15:31 PM | message detail
I was saying that we should avoid getting rid of possible upsets just because we think they won't happen. Which in this case would be Mario/Crono.

Don't forget Mario/Lightning!! And I'm not being sarcastic. I will be second guessing Lightning this entire contest, based on when it begins.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:16:15 PM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #308
I was saying that we should avoid getting rid of possible upsets just because we think they won't happen. Which in this case would be Mario/Crono.

Don't forget Mario/Lightning!! And I'm not being sarcastic. I will be second guessing Lightning this entire contest, based on when it begins.


Imagine Mario/Lightning on FFXIII release date.

Eat your heart out, Super Mario Sunshine.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:17:09 PM | message detail
Lightning would still lose.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:17:21 PM | message detail
The other thing is that most of the matches we think will be exciting aren't, and the really exciting stuff always comes from places we didn't expect.

I mean, part of that is just that unexpected stuff is more exciting, but it also means that if we ever got one of our ideal, stats-topic designed brackets, we could miss out on a lot of good matches and especially good runs.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:17:35 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #310
Lightning would still lose.


You're ruining the moment here!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:18:59 PM | message detail
Actually the best matches are more often matches that we thought would be close and ended up delivering.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:23:17 PM | message detail
Actually the best matches are more often matches that we thought would be close and ended up delivering.

Like what? The best things, such as Starcraft's entire run, L-Block's entire run, every close Frog match, etc.....were not expected.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2009 5:24:55 PM | message detail
Knux/Magus, Sonic/Crono...
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:25:14 PM | message detail
Starcraft vs. Halo
Mario vs. Cloud
Mario vs. Crono 2003
Chrono Trigger vs. Link to the Past
Sephiroth vs. Mega Man 2002
Crono vs. Vincent 2007/8
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:25:39 PM | message detail
Two more matches that were unexpected, especially Knux/Magus.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2009 5:26:20 PM | message detail
Two more matches that were unexpected, especially Knux/Magus.

I know, was agreeing with you.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:26:32 PM | message detail
Sonic/Crono wasn't unexpected to me! I called it!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:27:15 PM | message detail
Sonic/Crono wasn't that unexpected by the time the match came.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2009 5:27:50 PM | message detail
Sonic/Crono wasn't unexpected to me! I called it!

Same here!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:27:55 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #320
Sonic/Crono wasn't that unexpected by the time the match came.


It wasn't unexpected around 2 P.M. on match day.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:28:55 PM | message detail
Or maybe it was Crono not looking so hot against Bowser and Auron while Sonic was performing as expected.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:29:50 PM | message detail
Crono was still favored 73-23 in the Oracle. There were believers, but most people still expected Crono to win because Sonic was still Sonic.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:32:31 PM | message detail
I felt very worried about Crono after that Auron match, though he did well against Bowser (just 2% less than Sephiroth! Why did you have to be so overrated, Bowser? You're my second favorite Nintendo character too.)

But basically, I think it's clear that most of the really exciting stuff wasn't planned by us but just arose out of the contest itself. You can't force a good contest, you may get lucky or you may not. You can ruin a contest (by flooding it with boring SFF matches a la 2004), but you can't force it to be good. You can't create something like Starcraft or L-Block.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:33:48 PM | message detail
And actually, I was worried about Crono before the contest. That matchup just didn't and doesn't feel right to me. Like even now, I'd feel more comfortable with Crono against Megaman than Sonic in a rematch, however bad Sonic looked last year.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:33:51 PM | message detail
I wouldn't trust the oracle, Crono was the favourite, but a lot of people hold on to their brackets even if deep down they don't think he can win.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/14/2009 5:38:23 PM | message detail
Uh, even if Crono was the favorite, it was only to win by 51%.

You can't say someone expected to win with 51% not winning is unexpected
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2009 5:41:59 PM | message detail
Link was expected to beat Cloud with what, 54%?

Would you say the same if Cloud beat Link that year?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/14/2009 5:43:26 PM | message detail
Quite a distance between 51 and 54
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2009 5:44:59 PM | message detail
3%
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:45:02 PM | message detail
He was the favorite before the contest.

But in any case, I'm not saying matches we expect to be good can't be good, just that most of them aren't. The best way to keep the contest interesting is to have a wide variety of matches. Keep it organic and avoid set-ups wherever possible.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:47:32 PM | message detail
Also, the mentality of this place regarding margins like that was quite different back then. Remember when we called Tidus/Shadow "obvious" after the fact? It was supposedly a match that was close but that Tidus always was guaranteed to win.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:48:11 PM | message detail
Matches that we don't expect to be good also don't turn out good.

Either way your right.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:48:12 PM | message detail
wheres the damn bracket
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:48:19 PM | message detail
Remember when we called Tidus/Shadow "obvious" after the fact?

Psh, I called it obvious before the fact!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:48:22 PM | message detail
*you're
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:49:52 PM | message detail
Actually I stand by Tidus > Shadow being obvious and even predicted it to be close, just that Shadow wouldn't win.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:51:46 PM | message detail
No match that was as close as that one should be considered obvious. The fact that it was that close means that there was a chance the other character would win, since none of us can predict percentages with anywhere near that kind of precision.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/14/2009 5:56:24 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #339
No match that was as close as that one should be considered obvious. The fact that it was that close means that there was a chance the other character would win, since none of us can predict percentages with anywhere near that kind of precision.


Listen to the man spouting common sense
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 6:00:08 PM | message detail
Common sense isn't as fun though!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 6:02:40 PM | message detail
C'mon 1v1!!!!!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2009 6:03:22 PM | message detail
Go tag-teams!

(woo minority)

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Haguile | Posted 12/14/2009 6:05:12 PM | message detail
Bracket is up!

Tag teams! Dan McNeely+Dan Hibiki!

...Okay I'm lying, but wouldn't that be awesome?
ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/14/2009 6:05:46 PM | message detail
I'm for tag teams because it'll be fun to make match pics with two people in them. WOO!
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 6:06:05 PM | message detail
OOT Link + LTTP Link vs. Cloud + Zack
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/14/2009 6:07:51 PM | message detail
Dan McNeely + Missingno. would be better.

Or Dan McNeely + CATS. Oh wait. :(

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2009 6:09:39 PM | message detail
Let's go Bayonettaouttanowhere
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 6:10:00 PM | message detail
Let's go Link + Squall tag team!
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ffmasterjose | Posted 12/14/2009 6:10:29 PM | message detail
Okay I can't find Allen's post about how the contest isn't going to be a 4-way. But what did it say again? >_>