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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 762

red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:51:58 PM | message detail
I assume (or hope) Sonic's division will be Sonic and a bunch of near-elites trying to take down the Noble Nine. If Sonic survives that, Link/Sonic is going to be ugly.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:52:10 PM | message detail
Who's taking Snake over Sephiroth?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 4:52:28 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #251
I assume (or hope) Sonic's division will be Sonic and a bunch of near-elites trying to take down the Noble Nine. If Sonic survives that, Link/Sonic is going to be ugly.


Crono and Mega Man need challenges, too.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:52:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, 1 seed predix:


Link
Sonic
Mario
Sora

Bleh. Maybe red sox gets his Mario/Crono match (if Crono is in Heart and he can beat Sora!), but neither of those matches are particularly interesting. Still, Sonic and Sora are quite beatable, so the divisions themselves could be good.

Samus
Cloud
Snake
Sephiroth

Snake/Sephy is nice, Cloud/Samus not so much. Samus looks like she gets wasted this contest, unless Snake beats Sephy and then we can compare directly against Cloud. Still kinda boring.

Obviously Link wins the final.

Tag teams obviously complicate this a great deal.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 4:53:56 PM | message detail
Maybe Samus can face a near elite just to see how close the near elites are to her. Same with Mario. I'd at least like to see how close they are.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 4:54:22 PM | message detail
Too bad Sonic and Sora aren't switched... I'd love to see a Sonic/mario match even if we know the outcome.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:54:42 PM | message detail
Crono and Mega Man need challenges, too.

They'll get 'em, there's plenty of near-elites to go around. Assuming they don't get wasted against Clinkeroth, that is.
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paulg235 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:55:49 PM | message detail
You know, we could try and get the two divisions (Chaos and Heart) to switch so we can get our Mario/Sonic SFF'est match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 4:55:51 PM | message detail
Personally, Mega Man needs to get challenged more than Sonic and Crono do. The Blue Bomber's gotten off easy the last few years.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2009 4:56:42 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #259
Personally, Mega Man needs to get challenged more than Sonic and Crono do. The Blue Bomber's gotten off easy the last few years.


WCC wasn't enough?

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:56:47 PM | message detail
From: paulg235 | #258
You know, we could try and get the two divisions (Chaos and Heart) to switch so we can get our Mario/Sonic SFF'est match.

No, this is a dumb thing to want.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:56:51 PM | message detail
I don't mind Samus's position.....I'd rather she face Snake or Sephiroth, but if not those 2, Cloud at least provides a great match for seeing how strong she really is, something that she hasn't had since the last time she faced in 1v1.
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Xeybozn | Posted 12/14/2009 4:57:58 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #260
WCC wasn't enough?


Not really, since Zero was there holding him down.
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LOLContests | Posted 12/14/2009 4:58:01 PM | message detail
Mario getting a free pass to the Final 4 <3
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:58:05 PM | message detail
Yeah, above everything else, I just didn't want to see Samus hit either Mario or Link.
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paulg235 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:58:14 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #259
Personally, Mega Man needs to get challenged more than Sonic and Crono do. The Blue Bomber's gotten off easy the last few years.


I agree with this. Mega Man's been given the likes of Samus/Snake/Cloud to fare against ever since his match against Sora in 2006. We've seen Sonic and Crono at low times, but MM's just asking for it, IMO.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 4:58:21 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #260
WCC wasn't enough?


Not really. Plus, the only reason it beat Mega Man in the first place was LFF with Zero, so that loss is pretty much meaningless.
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KingBartz | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:05 PM | message detail
I hope that we get Crono in Sora's division =]]
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:08 PM | message detail
Personally, Mega Man needs to get challenged more than Sonic and Crono do. The Blue Bomber's gotten off easy the last few years

I say to throw Vincent at him, since he's already faced Crono and Sonic.
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ZFS | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:21 PM | message detail
come on good placement for ryu

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paulg235 | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:36 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #260
WCC wasn't enough?


Being LFF'ed against a character that once got over 40% on you doesn't count. It's like if Sonic fought Ganondorf if Shadow was in the same match.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:46 PM | message detail
Vincent vs. Mega Man? Now thats a tough match. I don't know which way I'd go..
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:54 PM | message detail
Wasn't 1v1 and 4 character polls both denied for this year? I hope this isn't a tag team. That's just kind of... like, too arbitrary.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2009 4:59:58 PM | message detail
Anyway I'm not sure if anyone (who pays attention) wouldn't immediately jump on a Squall/Auron/Vincent > MM so...yeah. Seems like it would just be more of an inevitable conclusion than an upset.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:00:33 PM | message detail
And I don't want to argue about this right now, but Mario's not getting a free pass to the final 4 if Crono gets put in his or Sora's division. At the least there will be a battle for it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:01:01 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #275
And I don't want to argue about this right now, but Mario's not getting a free pass to the final 4 if Crono gets put in his or Sora's division. At the least there will be a battle for it.


At this point, Mario gets 60% on Crono 1v1
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:01:03 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #274
Anyway I'm not sure if anyone (who pays attention) wouldn't immediately jump on a Squall/Auron/Vincent > MM so...yeah. Seems like it would just be more of an inevitable conclusion than an upset.


Yeah, but it's still got to happen, especially if it turns out to be a 1-on-1 match. Plus, we don't really know where Mega Man stands.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2009 5:01:19 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #275
And I don't want to argue about this right now, but Mario's not getting a free pass to the final 4 if Crono gets put in his or Sora's division. At the least there will be a battle for it.


Surely you can't expect to slide that in here without some sort of argument coming out of it!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:01:39 PM | message detail
Oh, and it's possible that Mega Man could have MM10 by the time a match with a near elite rolls around. Not that it will probably matter, but it might be interesting.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:01:39 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #273
Wasn't 1v1 and 4 character polls both denied for this year? I hope this isn't a tag team. That's just kind of... like, too arbitrary.


as far as i know, 1v1 was never officially denied by Bacon.. only 4 way
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paulg235 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:01:51 PM | message detail
Something tells me that if Crono is in Sora's division, he's gonna not make it out of it.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:02:11 PM | message detail
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #280
as far as i know, 1v1 was never officially denied by Bacon.. only 4 way

He distinctly said "new format". That's all we know.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:02:45 PM | message detail
3-ways got more votes in the GOTY poll last year! Surely this hasn't escaped Bacon's notice!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:02:47 PM | message detail
Sora's division should have characters like Pikachu and Gordon Freeman.
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Xeybozn | Posted 12/14/2009 5:03:14 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #280
as far as i know, 1v1 was never officially denied by Bacon.. only 4 way


All Bacon said was that it would be a new format; technically 128 1 vs 1 would be new, but I'm don't know if that's what he's planning.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:03:15 PM | message detail
Sora's already beaten Gordon.

Pikachu/Gordon would be a weird match, in an awesome sort of way though.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/14/2009 5:03:18 PM | message detail
Well, 1v1 isn't new so that's denying it isn't it?
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KingBartz | Posted 12/14/2009 5:03:42 PM | message detail
I'd vote for a 3-way anytime ;)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:05:19 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #287
Well, 1v1 isn't new so that's denying it isn't it?


128 1v1 is new though
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:05:24 PM | message detail
I wouldn't. I would jump on any of those over Sonic, but MM has seemed a step above him the past 2 years (maybe a sizable step last year), and hasn't seemed any weaker than he was in 2006. It was embarassing then because MM used to be stronger than that, but he was still stronger than Vincent that year. Sora just isn't very far at all from that Vincent/Squall/Auron group.

Oh, and I would take Squall > Vincent now- not with much more confidence than thinking of it as a toss-up, but I would take it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:06:03 PM | message detail
Bacon has already expressed a distaste for a 4 month long contest in the past though. I really doubt he'll go for it. Plus, it's just 8 divisions.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:06:28 PM | message detail
Not that he couldn't do 1-16 instead of 1-8 with seeds, but it seems like 1-8 seed divisions are here to stay.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:06:44 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #291
Bacon has already expressed a distaste for a 4 month long contest in the past though. I really doubt he'll go for it. Plus, it's just 8 divisions.


16x8 = 128
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:07:38 PM | message detail
Surely you can't expect to slide that in here without some sort of argument coming out of it!

The way I see it, it's always better to let the contest decide disputes rather than us deciding beforehand which upsets can happen and which can't. So if anyone wants to place near-elite x up against Crono to try to break the Noble Nine- go ahead. Just give Crono a chance to pull off an upset too.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/14/2009 5:08:12 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #294
Surely you can't expect to slide that in here without some sort of argument coming out of it!

The way I see it, it's always better to let the contest decide disputes rather than us deciding beforehand which upsets can happen and which can't. So if anyone wants to place near-elite x up against Crono to try to break the Noble Nine- go ahead. Just give Crono a chance to pull off an upset too.


then what do we talk about in the month before the bracket and during the contest?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:08:20 PM | message detail
My SBallin' question about the contest was "Filed." Yeehaw!
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:08:44 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #292
Not that he couldn't do 1-16 instead of 1-8 with seeds, but it seems like 1-8 seed divisions are here to stay.

We clearly had 1-16 seeds when there were 16 entrants in a division for the last couple of contests.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/14/2009 5:09:04 PM | message detail
Well, yeah.

Fungah! Foiled again!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2009 5:10:19 PM | message detail
The way I see it, it's always better to let the contest decide disputes rather than us deciding beforehand which upsets can happen and which can't.

If the stats topic followed that logic stuff like Vincent vs. Dante and World of Warcraft wouldn't happen.
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KingBartz | Posted 12/14/2009 5:10:43 PM | message detail
I have finals tomorrow... what a lousy time for the bracket to come to me...
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