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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 761

charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:11:05 PM | message detail
...and Wario is in 5th

Also lol at X, and people thought Link could get past 30% in a harder poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:11:27 PM | message detail
Mega Man X is clearly getting the MM10 announcement boost due to the fact that X is the Roman Numeral for 10.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:14:25 PM | message detail
Okay, I could deal with Cid and Aerith in the same poll, but Louis and Zoey is just completely unfair.

This isn't even a contest concept, sometimes, votes can be split. Come now, Bacon, you can't be THIS ignorant.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/11/2009 9:15:24 PM | message detail
Vault Boy > Falco for third place.

**** yeah.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:16:01 PM | message detail
...You know, voters may be confusing 'Vault Boy' with the main character of Fallout 3.

Not like there's a picture or anything.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:16:14 PM | message detail
I guess Wario can be thankful that there are two Left 4 Dead characters.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:16:45 PM | message detail
Man, Falco's dying here.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:16:46 PM | message detail
The main character of Fallout 3 has no character. I'm pretty sure most people know who Vault Boy is referring to.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:16:53 PM | message detail
Uh, Link would destroy X. Besides, I'm sure there's people who are fine with CJayC's method of grouping all of Megaman's forms together under "Megaman."
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:17:40 PM | message detail
From: charmander6000 | #251
...and Wario is in 5th

Also lol at X, and people thought Link could get past 30% in a harder poll.


Right, because Mega Man X is even close to Link.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3300&num=4

No wait, he doubled him. Directly.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:17:59 PM | message detail
Vault Boy is never even given a name in his game. For casual Fallout players, it seems pretty obvious to be that they're thinking of the main character.

(And no personality? Since when has that mattered?)

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/11/2009 9:18:03 PM | message detail
Also lol at X, and people thought Link could get past 30% in a harder poll.

Link doubled MMX with Mario in the same poll last year, plus we're fifteen minutes into the poll. Let's give it more time, but it looks like Link wouldn't do it as easily as I originally thought he would.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:18:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, that SSBM early vote is ridiculous......that is probably the biggest source of Falco's strength, after all.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:18:34 PM | message detail
Doesn't matter X is dropping like a rock and has an easier group than yesterday's
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/11/2009 9:19:25 PM | message detail
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:19:54 PM | message detail
It's not even a lack of personality. You almost never even see your character. He/She is completely unimportant. I would almost guarantee that 90% of the people voting for Vault Boy know who they're voting for.
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PiGuy96 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:20:04 PM | message detail
Man, X on a tag team with a strong high seed character would be pretty frightening. Assume the NN gets 15/16 seed nondescript fodder - how many of them could Auron&X beat? I'd guess Crono/Sonic/Mega Man easily, and Mario/Samus/Snake would have to watch their backs...
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:20:20 PM | message detail
And his strength is not even remotely close to Link's.

For a start he doesn't have any SFF ability over Nintendo. You think Falco would get close to 10% with Link in this poll? I mean really, sometimes I think you're being deliberately dense.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:20:22 PM | message detail
And if you want to compare with these polls, take a look at Frog's- Frog pulled 15% percent in that one, and Link would break 75% on Frog barring a very large CTDS boost indeed.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:20:39 PM | message detail
I don't see why that matters. I would vote my Oblivion character over a lot of characters for what he does in-game.

Being the character matters to a lot of people.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/11/2009 9:20:42 PM | message detail
Vault Boy just cut Hk-47

Top 2 possible?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2009 9:21:06 PM | message detail
And Vault Boy cuts HK-47.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/11/2009 9:23:29 PM | message detail
Char's talking about Link in Emil's place in yesterday's poll, not in today's poll. Link would have a field day with Falco/Wario/Lucas in the poll and MMX wouldn't feel very good afterward either.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:23:46 PM | message detail
For a start he doesn't have any SFF ability over Nintendo. You think Falco would get close to 10% with Link in this poll? I mean really, sometimes I think you're being deliberately dense.

And I think some people have no idea how hard it is to break high percents when there are 12 options. 30% may be pushing it, but there were claims of high thirties/low forties which ridiculous.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:24:21 PM | message detail
I know we shouldn't take much from these polls, but Vault Boy may not turn out to be worthless fodder like I thought he would if he manages to snag second place here.

I mean, I know his competition is bad, but I'd never pick the guy to beat HK-47 or Falco.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:25:34 PM | message detail
And if you want to compare with these polls, take a look at Frog's- Frog pulled 15% percent in that one, and Link would break 75% on Frog barring a very large CTDS boost indeed.

Again with characters getting 2-5% there's no way that Link would destroy that poll that bad.

Unless people here think HK-47 would get 43% on X
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:26:27 PM | message detail
When did we start assuming these polls translate perfectly to contest strength again

Is there something in the water

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/11/2009 9:26:30 PM | message detail
It's amazing Vault Boy is doing this well without a pic, considering his picture should be much more recognizable than his name, which most people probably assume is Pipboy or something anyway.

I can't wait to see him in a real contest setting, assuming he makes it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:27:16 PM | message detail
Augh. If Zoey and Louis weren't here together one of them could challenge Falco. Bacon...!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:27:54 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #277
When did we start assuming these polls translate perfectly to contest strength again

Is there something in the water


I believe I prefaced my statement with something of this nature!

But they're not completely worthless is all I'm saying. The fact that he's probably going to beat Falco rather effortlessly is pretty surprising.

Yeah, he's splitting with Wario and all, but...

Meh. I'm just worried about Seifer and Laguna being in the same poll tomorrow.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:29:03 PM | message detail
And I think some people have no idea how hard it is to break high percents when there are 12 options. 30% may be pushing it, but there were claims of high thirties/low forties which ridiculous.

Well we'll probably never find out, but I think all the evidence does point to Link being able to get high 30s at least in one of these. You have to remember that Link is roughly twice as strong as the lower Noble Nine, and they are stronger than anyone we've seen in one of these polls. Up until arguably MMX today, you could say that the lower Noble Nine were a lot stronger than anyone we'd seen in one of these polls.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:29:08 PM | message detail
So I'm think 6 polls altogether, anymore and it probably won't be the top 6 getting in.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:29:25 PM | message detail
From: charmander6000 | #274
And I think some people have no idea how hard it is to break high percents when there are 12 options. 30% may be pushing it, but there were claims of high thirties/low forties which ridiculous.

And in the top 10 games, 24% placed FFVII as their favourite game ever. Which means even in a 128 game-poll it still gets 24% absolute minimum.

With 12 characters, Link doesn't need that and it's not at all unlikely for 15% to vote him over EVERYTHING let alone another 11 characters. He saps the votes of all the casuals that don't really care where they're putting their votes, he saps all Nintendo characters and all pseudo Nintendo characters.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/11/2009 9:31:16 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #280
I believe I prefaced my statement with something of this nature!

But they're not completely worthless is all I'm saying. The fact that he's probably going to beat Falco rather effortlessly is pretty surprising.

Yeah, he's splitting with Wario and all, but...

Meh. I'm just worried about Seifer and Laguna being in the same poll tomorrow.


And its not like Vault Boy isn't splitting a fanbase here, either. Alistair and Hk-47 are other WRPG characters
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:31:46 PM | message detail
Well we'll probably never find out, but I think all the evidence does point to Link being able to get high 30s at least in one of these. You have to remember that Link is roughly twice as strong as the lower Noble Nine, and they are stronger than anyone we've seen in one of these polls. Up until arguably MMX today, you could say that the lower Noble Nine were a lot stronger than anyone we'd seen in one of these polls.

I think seeing all the stronger characters underperforming like mad would give us a clue that strong characters would also underperform. Also for the record I'm talking about last poll, not today's since the competition here is a lot weaker.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:31:47 PM | message detail
Hey, don't look now, but Jade's catching up to Lucas...!
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:33:13 PM | message detail
For the record, I do believe that Link beats Cloud a lot worse if they were thrown into a neutral 12-way together than 1v1. It's a variation of the "Nintendo voters fall in line" thing, except that in this case, I think the average Cloud fan just has broader taste in video games in general. Or in other words, Cloud lacks Link's core fanbase of people who show him single-minded devotion.
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/11/2009 9:34:03 PM | message detail
Whoa, nice to see Lucas with more than 2% with Wario and Falco around.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:35:03 PM | message detail
I think seeing all the stronger characters underperforming like mad would give us a clue that strong characters would also underperform. Also for the record I'm talking about last poll, not today's since the competition here is a lot weaker.

What stronger characters underperformings, if I may ask? I haven't noticed any of them as markedly underperforming so far, except maybe MMX. I mean, there's only so much you can ask of midcarders in 12-ways.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:35:53 PM | message detail
For the record, we really don't have much of an idea how strong MMX is. His matches against Mario are wholly inconclusive due to LFF, and I can't take a match with Mudkip seriously.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:36:16 PM | message detail
And in the top 10 games, 24% placed FFVII as their favourite game ever. Which means even in a 128 game-poll it still gets 24% absolute minimum.

With 12 characters, Link doesn't need that and it's not at all unlikely for 15% to vote him over EVERYTHING let alone another 11 characters. He saps the votes of all the casuals that don't really care where they're putting their votes, he saps all Nintendo characters and all pseudo Nintendo characters.


Yes Link has a higher base then probably all of the characters. For Link to get say 30% in yesterday's poll all of the other characters would have needed to average 6.36% which is very hard to do and it gets worse if you think Link would get higher.

This is almost as bad as people saying SMB3 had a chance at breaking 80%.
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Psycho_Kenshin | Posted 12/11/2009 9:36:43 PM | message detail
Call me crazy, but I think the Mega Man X character is pretty derivative of Mega Man. I'm saving that vote for the original blue bomber.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:39:34 PM | message detail
What stronger characters underperformings, if I may ask? I haven't noticed any of them as markedly underperforming so far, except maybe MMX. I mean, there's only so much you can ask of midcarders in 12-ways.

Scorpion
Axel
Liquid Snake
Chun Li

By strong I mean stronger than the relative field. There's others, but you can blame LFF on that.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:42:21 PM | message detail
Scorpion
Axel
Liquid Snake
Chun Li

By strong I mean stronger than the relative field. There's others, but you can blame LFF on that.


But.....the thing is none of those won their polls. You can take Liquid's 12% to mean that it's hard to high percentages in 12-ways, but you can just as easily take Frog's 15% and say, wow, he barely did worse than he did in a 4-way with Samus, Axel, and some jokefodder character.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:45:02 PM | message detail
From: charmander6000 | #291
This is almost as bad as people saying SMB3 had a chance at breaking 80%.

And you predicted it at sub-65%

You are aware of quite how much you underestimated it at, going from that to 75% right?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2009 9:46:09 PM | message detail
Mega Man X finally got cut.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:46:49 PM | message detail
Well if they won there polls then they would have impressed since they would have gotten a higher percent :p

For Frog you can also look at it as Frog isn't going to drop much more percent so therefore there is less for Link to take.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:49:34 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:51:13 PM | message detail
And you predicted it at sub-65%

You are aware of quite how much you underestimated it at, going from that to 75% right?


If you're going to look up something and try to burn me at least look up the right match because and I quote my analysis

"anything less than a new high percent record for Super Mario Bros. 3 would be considered an utter failure"

Also looking at the oracle I had SMB3 at 74.62%, I think you just supported my cause.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/11/2009 9:55:30 PM | message detail
From early 2003:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1178

It's not quite 12 way, but I don't think adding in FF12 will drop FF7 below 35%. Link is pretty beastly in terms of strength. He won't have the benefit of SFFing the 3rd and 4th strongest, but he gets another 5% to play with between 35% and 30%. I don't think it's unreasonably to think Link has a shot at 30%.
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