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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 761

UItimaterializer | Posted 12/10/2009 10:41:34 PM | message detail
Why couldn't we have a mass rally for a BlazBlue character instead?



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Big Bob | Posted 12/10/2009 10:42:58 PM | message detail
Several months ago I posted one. Everybody agreed on Ragna, since he's the face of the game.

I doubt he'd be doing much better in one of these polls.
UItimaterializer | Posted 12/10/2009 10:45:26 PM | message detail
The face of that game is WHITE VOID GENESIC EMERALD TAGER BUSTAAAAAAAAAAH FLAMES OF DESTRUCTION
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/10/2009 10:50:32 PM | message detail
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/blaz-blue-noel-vermillion-character-artwork-small.jpg

the only character to consider
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Big Bob | Posted 12/10/2009 10:54:42 PM | message detail
I'm partial to "Squiggly Justice Tackle!"
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 5:08:33 AM | message detail
Hopefully Cid will get in so one NRT character is guaranteed in.

I think Charizard is probably safely in the contest though.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/11/2009 5:22:47 AM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #006
Hopefully Cid will get in so one NRT character is guaranteed in.

I think Charizard is probably safely in the contest though.


I hope Charizard is in the poll tomorrow so he can RAPE FACES. Which he would.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/11/2009 6:12:49 AM | message detail
I'm actually expecting Red tomorrow. Will be a good gauge of his might, too, if voters stop ignoring the words in parenthesis.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 6:16:22 AM | message detail
Missingno > Charizard
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/11/2009 6:58:30 AM | message detail
Yay, 2 more FF7 characters in the contest! just what we needed.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 7:44:29 AM | message detail
Yep, nothing like having characters who can give us good matches who aren't fodder.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 7:46:35 AM | message detail
Time for Red to wreck tomorrow's poll. Him making it in on nominations alone would be even better though!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 7:50:04 AM | message detail
Seifer beating Red tomorrow guaranteed
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 7:53:32 AM | message detail
Hoping to see Magus tomorrow, actually. Don't think he's going to get more nominations than Frog at this point, so he probably needs to make one of these polls to make the contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 7:54:31 AM | message detail
Magus usually ends up with higher seeds than Frog, doesn't he?
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 7:59:09 AM | message detail
Well, the last time we actually saw the seeds was 2005, and Magus was given that seed before his loss to Knuckles. He was the board's favorite character or thereabouts then.....
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 7:59:37 AM | message detail
Er....the last time we saw the seeds in a contest in which Magus and Frog were present.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/11/2009 9:12:59 AM | message detail
But the main thing is, if Gamefaqs wants these contests to be credible at all, they need to use the official names of characters, and Aerith has been made the official name by Square Enix

So yeah, it should stay as that
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:13:24 AM | message detail
With our luck Red and Charizard will be in the same poll tomorrow and both fail to hit the top 6.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/11/2009 9:14:26 AM | message detail
I don't know the circumstances around the switch from Squall to Leonhart between the series. I just know we all still call him Squall.


I'm actually expecting Red tomorrow. Will be a good gauge of his might, too, if voters stop ignoring the words in parenthesis.

They won't have to ignore -- his name will be Pokemon Trainer Red. If they can't figure out he's from Pokemon by that, he doesn't deserve to be in the contest!


I don't know how many characters we're getting out of each poll (though I think six is being optimistic), but we can still argue over who will be the strongest out of the most likely ones! Let's rank the top three from each poll (I'm assuming the Sonic day-vote will overturn 100 votes on the Castlevania day-vote; add Belmont if you feel inclined):

Aeris
Axel
Cid
Frog
Jecht
Liquid Snake
Missingno
Rikku
Spy
Sub-Zero
Tails
The Boss
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:15:34 AM | message detail
If the competition is like the past 3 days, Red would win the poll outright even with Charizard there. Confidence!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:16:48 AM | message detail
I see six being the maximum, but cutting it down by anymore is already asking for major snubs.
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voltch | Posted 12/11/2009 9:17:01 AM | message detail
Red! Red! Red!
He's got some balls no wai is he losing.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/11/2009 9:18:39 AM | message detail
I'm predicting four make it in each poll, but sixteen is a lot of characters to rank too.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:18:41 AM | message detail
It's not a Vote-In Poll without someone we rallied failing.

At this rate we won't have anyone left to support next contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:18:49 AM | message detail
Cid
Aeris
Liquid Snake
Frog
Rikku
Sub-Zero
Axel
Jecht
Missingno
Tails
Spy
The Boss
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voltch | Posted 12/11/2009 9:20:08 AM | message detail
I still don't see why there's a heavy assumption that some of these characters will become 16 seeds, 8 seed has been the lowest for quite some time.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 9:25:53 AM | message detail
I'm fairly sure at this point that Bacon is sticking people from the same series together in an attempt to force SFF and weed out the weaker links.

So Red and Charizard will probably be in the same poll.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:27:46 AM | message detail
I'm still working under the assumption that only the winner of each poll makes it, and we're getting a 64 character bracket. Sure makes these things more exciting to watch.

And if Red can't beat Charizard, I have no interest in him being in a contest, so putting them together is fine by me.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:28:01 AM | message detail
I dunno, Jecht and Rikku were in different polls, and so were Liquid and Raiden/The Boss. I think it's more likely random coincidence.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/11/2009 9:36:26 AM | message detail
They also separated Little Mac and Doc. It's weird how some polls are getting much worse SFF/LFF-potential than others.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:36:33 AM | message detail
This is all just some awesome way to pair up characters for tag-team

Missingno/Jigglypuff
The Boss/Yoshimitsu
Axel/Dan Hibiki
Lightning/Raiden
Scorpion/Alex Mercer
Mudkip/Toad

Frog/Andrew Ryan
Rikku/Captain Olimar
Liquid Snake/Frank West
Big Daddy/Diddy Kong
Midna/Archer
Pac-Man/Sam Fisher

Sub-Zero/Doc Louis
Jecht/Bub
Spy/Sho
Ridley/Bayonetta
Proto Man/Etna
Kain Highwind/Lara Croft

Aerith/Emil
Cid Highwind/Maxwell
Simon Belmont/Sol Badguy
Tails/Godot
Prince of Persia/Little Mac
Morrigan/Chun Li

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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 12/11/2009 9:40:26 AM | message detail
Aeris
Cid
Liquid Snake
Sub-Zero
Rikku
Jecht
Frog
Axel
Spy (Might even be stronger than Frog if it receives rallies in his contest match.)
The Boss
Tails


Missingno (Another L-Block, will receive joke static vote and therefore it is hard to determine his strength.)
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:40:33 AM | message detail
Lightning/Raiden

It does not get any more awesome than this.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/11/2009 9:46:05 AM | message detail
Hey Luster/TRE, did Chunners ever take the lead over Morrigan overnight? When I went to bed she was 38 down
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/11/2009 9:47:13 AM | message detail
Wow I have voted for the winner every single day.

How the hell do I keep doing this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:53:15 AM | message detail
I don't know the circumstances around the switch from Squall to Leonhart between the series. I just know we all still call him Squall.

He goes by "Leon" in the Kingdom Hearts series, but it's openly stated in the game that his real name is Squall (Yuffie calls him "Squall" on at least one occasion). He goes by Leon because he doesn't feel like he's worthy to go by his true name because of his failures or something like that.

But anyway, as long as Seifer and Laguna don't end up in the same poll, I'll be okay.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/11/2009 9:54:07 AM | message detail
He goes by Leon because he doesn't feel like he's worthy to go by his true name because of his failures or something like that.

Glad to see he's still his ol emo self
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:55:51 AM | message detail
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:56:53 AM | message detail
Squall is totally anti-social. For the first half of the game, anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:57:04 AM | message detail
Squall gets these labels like "emo" and "anti-social" that aren't really true of him and wouldn't be used of him if people actually knew what the terms meant!

...But that's neither here nor there. Regardless, I don't see that as an "emo" thing. He's disappointed in himself for his failures, and he's trying to distance himself from that. Don't see what's so emo about that.

Meh.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2009 9:57:30 AM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #040
Squall is totally anti-social. For the first half of the game, anyway.


Seifer is much more anti-social than Squall.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 12/11/2009 9:58:17 AM | message detail
...whatever.
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ZFS | Posted 12/11/2009 9:58:53 AM | message detail
FF8 cast bail out

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/11/2009 9:59:14 AM | message detail
...But that's neither here nor there. Regardless, I don't see that as an "emo" thing. He's disappointed in himself for his failures, and he's trying to distance himself from that. Don't see what's so emo about that.

being disappointed in yourself and getting all overly emotional over it to not even call yourself by your own name sounds very emo to me!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 10:00:11 AM | message detail
Squall gets a lot better and is a pretty good character. Seifer is easily the loser of FF8, not sure why anyone wants him in outside of the sake of getting another FF8 character in.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2009 10:00:27 AM | message detail
(And if we're doing that, Zell all the way!)

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/11/2009 10:01:04 AM | message detail
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FFDragon | Posted 12/11/2009 10:06:44 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 12/11/2009 1:00:27 PM | #047
(And if we're doing that, Zell all the way!)


Best post of the topic.
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voltch | Posted 12/11/2009 10:40:29 AM | message detail
Zell and his hotdogs would be about what, rikku levels?
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