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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 758

red sox 777 | Posted 11/30/2009 9:30:21 PM | message detail
Mario stopped being a series where people cared a lot about the new releases sometime in the 11 year gap between Mario 64 and Mario Galaxy. Now it's a series that provides fun, entertaining, new games, perhaps, and has a huge amount of fame and nostalgia, but most people don't care about the new releases in the way they do about something like FFXIII, MGS4, MW2, etc. The industry has moved beyond platformers.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/30/2009 9:31:18 PM | message detail
also this isn't giving me a lot of confidence in a new stronger Nathan Drake
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/30/2009 9:43:42 PM | message detail
I wonder if/how much CoD:MW2 is benefiting from a Halo 3-like effect. Halo 2 beat GTA:SA shortly after its release in a poll and we've seen MC in several polls that came out about a month after Halo 3's release. Considering how MW2 shattered records in sales recently in ways Halo wish it could have, I wonder if its lead will shrink much come time for the GotY-polls -- that's still a month and a half away.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/30/2009 9:44:39 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #253
I wonder if/how much CoD:MW2 is benefiting from a Halo 3-like effect. Halo 2 beat GTA:SA shortly after its release in a poll and we've seen MC in several polls that came out about a month after Halo 3's release. Considering how MW2 shattered records in sales recently in ways Halo wish it could have, I wonder if its lead will shrink much come time for the GotY-polls -- that's still a month and a half away.


Its doing about the same compared to DAO as it did the poll about a month ago for what thats worth
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transience | Posted 11/30/2009 9:46:15 PM | message detail
man, Uncharted is sucking it up for the game that will probably win the most GOTY awards from other websites. looks like we've got another year of 360 > PS3 > Wii.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/30/2009 9:47:29 PM | message detail
i'd be shocked if Uncharted was the majority winner of gotys. I think that goes to MW2, easily
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ZFS | Posted 11/30/2009 9:50:23 PM | message detail
Uncharted 2 will probably be the clear GOTY winner this year. Don't expect MW2 to do much there.

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/30/2009 9:58:31 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #257
Uncharted 2 will probably be the clear GOTY winner this year. Don't expect MW2 to do much there.


Just because they rated it the best dosen't mean that it'll be consensus goty. In 2007, Mario Galaxy was top rated game yet most places went Modern Warfare. And last year, GTA4 was top rated game and most places split between MGS4/Fallout 3.
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ZFS | Posted 11/30/2009 9:59:54 PM | message detail
Point made on the first one, but GTA4 should have never been rated that high in the first place. A week after GTA4 came out, it was pretty clear it wasn't going to win any major GOTY awards.

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/30/2009 10:02:02 PM | message detail
AC2 has already surpassed Mario just an hour in... it took till the deep night on that "Most anticipated November game of November" poll for AC2 to pass it. Was NSMBWii considered a disappointment or something?
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transience | Posted 11/30/2009 10:08:08 PM | message detail
quite the opposite actually -- Assassin's Creed 2 is better than people expected. Mario always has a strong first hour and then utterly dies, and with competition like this it's bound to do even better.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/30/2009 11:04:32 PM | message detail
There you have it Modern Warfare 2 will take the GotY
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/30/2009 11:11:11 PM | message detail
Pssh, it hasn't had to face Punch-Out!!

Ahem.
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voltch | Posted 12/1/2009 2:00:05 AM | message detail
ya know I can't say I wasn't surprised to see MW2 not get 10 from Gamespot.
I thought for sure that site would do so after it was lenient on GTA4 and still gave 10 to MGS4 which is an 11 for MGS fans, but not exactly the most accessible game for the uninitiated.
I really do wonder if MW2 hasn't fallen in the same trap as Halo3 and just way overhyped itself.
Brawl this site hyped up itself by comparison.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/1/2009 6:50:34 AM | message detail
If I remember the topic from NeoGAF, last year was between GTA4 and Fallout 3 in terms of total GotY awards. Don't remember which won out overall, but MGS4 wasn't too close to the mix. I can probably check Wikipedia in a few minutes.

I don't see Modern Warfare 2 being beaten this year, mostly due to the lack of competition. Put it in 2008 and while it'd still be a favorite, it wouldn't be as huge. That said, considering Activision's attitude and huge backlash to the PC version, I'd be a bit skeptical on MW3 doing as well here in 2011.

Still, not having an Nintendo or Square game win GotY doesn't happen very often (the only previous winners were RE4 and GTA:SA, right?) and it's nice to see the site broaden its tastes, even though I wish they did it more last year so that Fallout 3 would've won GotY.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/1/2009 6:52:52 AM | message detail
Damn, Wikipedia doesn't have a comprehensive list of GotY winners. Someone should work on that. But it has Gamespot, IGN, and Spike if you're interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_the_Year
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transience | Posted 12/1/2009 7:21:07 AM | message detail
I believe Fallout 3 and GTA4 were top dogs for GOTY. it's not like it matters, there's eight billion sites giving out GOTY awards.

this year will probably be Uncharted 2 > MW2 > Arkham Asylum > SF4. SF4 would have a better chance if it were released in November instead of February.
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transience | Posted 12/1/2009 7:23:10 AM | message detail
speaking of NeoGAF, its users voted on GOTY and it went MGS4 > LBP > Fallout 3 > L4D > Gears 2.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/1/2009 11:20:02 AM | message detail
What the junk SB? I mean sure this is an interesting poll, but did he forget how we're going to be sitting through 15 straight days of voting on these games in only a month?

...unless this is a signal that he's looking to shorten the GotYs this year in order to get the character bracket rolling a little sooner. Somehow I doubt that though; it makes too much sense.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/1/2009 11:22:58 AM | message detail
I don't know, it'd seem cheap to skip all the console GotY's, trivial as they are this year.

Of course, if he skips them, I won't shed any tears about it. Only debatable one is, what, DS with Platinum VS Spirit Tracks?
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voltch | Posted 12/1/2009 11:27:39 AM | message detail
at least we know uncharted 2 isn't likely to be a major threat on this site, MW2... will that be the first game since San andreas to not be from either nintendo or square, wait square only has FFX doesn't it....and people STILL moan about FF.

But each big release like halo or GTA IV seemed to have gotten very positive buzz about a week into their release, can MW2 keep that love going?
At this stage I'm hoping Resident Evil 5 and Arkham Asylum prove to be better opposition than Assassin's Creed 2 and Uncharted 2, heck should Batman win it all it's square back on track...technically.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2009 11:32:13 AM | message detail
Not having much faith in Nathan Drake being anymore than fodder.

At least he is not turbofodder
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/1/2009 11:41:08 AM | message detail
So what are the other games released this year that are worth mentioning yet aren't in this poll again?

Batman:AA
Halo 3 ODST
LoZ:ST
RE5
Scribblenauts (for you, Wylvane!)
SF4

With another month and a half for the MW2-hype to die down, maybe RE5 or Batman:AA can get closer than Dragon Age currently is...or maybe NSMBW will pick up some steam. Either way, MW2's got this year's GotY here.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/1/2009 11:42:26 AM | message detail
And yeah, Uncharted's not impressing me much either. I'm gonna laugh if it takes second to R&C again in the PS3-GotY.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/1/2009 11:48:30 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3654

nice little comparison of how these games stacked up pre release
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voltch | Posted 12/1/2009 11:52:56 AM | message detail
The Saboteur maybe just MAYBE might do better than huh....welll brutal legend?
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/1/2009 11:58:19 AM | message detail
http://www.crispygamer.com/features/2009-12-01/game-of-the-decade-peoples-choice-vote.aspx

They've got the People's Choice matches up now:

Deus Ex VS Kingdom Hearts
Uncharted VS Eternal Darkness
Need For Speed: Most Wanted VS Soul Calibur 2
Super Smash Bros. Melee VS Wii Sports

Low vote totals all around though -- none of them have more than seventy-five votes, but I think the poll were just recently put up and the contest hasn't officially started yet.
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voltch | Posted 12/1/2009 12:03:15 PM | message detail
never ceases to amaze me how a good gamefaqs poll will get over 120k votes in just 24 hours.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2009 12:05:28 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3654

Seems like Dragon Age has gained strength from word of mouth.

Seeing NSMBW losing to ACII in that poll as well doesn't make this performance as bad.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2009 12:07:27 PM | message detail
Surprised to see Eternal Darkness ahead of Uncharted.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/1/2009 12:11:48 PM | message detail
I thought that at first too, but then I saw Deus Ex doubling KH. That's the biggest surprise of the four matches.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2009 1:09:22 PM | message detail
Those matches are worth nothing more than board projects are. In fact, I've run board projects that have gotten more votes than that.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2009 1:16:40 PM | message detail
I thought that at first too, but then I saw Deus Ex doubling KH. That's the biggest surprise of the four matches.

Not if you're a PC gamer.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/1/2009 1:17:20 PM | message detail
Deus Ex would beat Kh on any site that slants towards PC games, easily.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2009 1:48:59 PM | message detail
Interesting to see Melee with the most votes despite being the last poll.

It could have some strength.
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Big Bob | Posted 12/1/2009 1:49:15 PM | message detail
While it looks like MW2 will win the GameFAQs GOTY, I don't think it'll be as clear-cut like that across the internet. There's plenty of MW2 backlash, kinda similar to what happened to Halo 3, GTA IV, and Brawl, really.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/1/2009 1:57:40 PM | message detail

From: Big Bob | #286
While it looks like MW2 will win the GameFAQs GOTY, I don't think it'll be as clear-cut like that across the internet. There's plenty of MW2 backlash, kinda similar to what happened to Halo 3, GTA IV, and Brawl, really.


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voltch | Posted 12/1/2009 2:01:30 PM | message detail
really?
I haven't seen that much MW2 backlash yet, everyone I know is being all fanboy on it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/1/2009 2:03:48 PM | message detail
Did your board projects get 100+ votes for the preliminaries in under five hours ? Either way, I don't think anybody here is going to take it very seriously. It's not going to mean anything for GameFAQs-strength and it's a site most/all of us never heard of before this, so what-ev. I'll follow it though just 'cuz I enjoy this sort of thing.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/1/2009 2:03:55 PM | message detail
Its just whiny PC gamers who bought it anyway.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/1/2009 2:05:49 PM | message detail
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/11/1258035395841.jpg

I've heard that that list is sorted so all the people who are currently playing appear first so it misrepresents how many people are actually playing MW2. Those 19 shown may have been the only ones in the 833 to be currently playing the game, although I expect there were also others who weren't shown or bought the game but were not currently playing it.
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voltch | Posted 12/1/2009 2:10:19 PM | message detail
still a damn funny pic TRE.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/1/2009 7:49:47 PM | message detail
I sure hope Morrigan makes it from Dragon Age. Seeing this performance maybe she can be more then just turbo fodder.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2009 6:58:13 PM | message detail
Did your board projects get 100+ votes for the preliminaries in under five hours ?

No, but I have gotten 100+ votes on board projects before, and I wouldn't take any of those results seriously in terms of predicting contest strength.

Well, I guess I'd take Presea to beat just about anyone, but other than that...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2009 7:01:42 PM | message detail
Although it's kinda funny to look at these results and see SOTC > Mario Galaxy there.

As if the game needed another kick in the balls.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2009 7:30:07 PM | message detail
Kojima fans may protest that Sons of Liberty was not the game that ought to have represented MGS, but the voters were instructed to consider a series' entire output for the decade when making their choice.

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/2/2009 7:41:35 PM | message detail
Haha, yeah, it would have been nice if it was just a GameFAQs-thing that it bombed in BGE2. It's so weird that it won so many awards and GotY's while praised as the true SM64-sequel, yet I've not seen anything redeeming for it since SSBB came out. Heck, it sold well too, that alone would put it over the likes of SotC in a lot of places!

SMG's fall from grace is just weird to me. I get Mario thrives on nostalgia, but SMG made a fantastic return and now apparently has to wait until the time when gamers go "Hey, remember SMG?" to have some strength.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/2/2009 7:45:42 PM | message detail
What's funny about that quote is that it insinuates MGS2/3/4 lost to Battlefield 1942/3.

Hold that poll anywhere else outside of the "Game Trust."
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/2/2009 7:48:40 PM | message detail
It's not just that. The old Mario games were all huge deals when they came out- far and away the biggest games of their respective years.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/2/2009 8:05:53 PM | message detail
Yeah, nearly all the old Mario-games were huge. I think another thing that compliments that is SMB1, SMW, and SM64 were launch-games...we haven't seen a Mario-title with that initial push since then (besides SM64DS, but that's a port for a handheld). Launching helped LoZ:TP and SSBM (it was two weeks off, close enough), so I figure that could play a part.

A Nintendo-launch just doesn't feel the same with Mario though -- heck, it was the main reason people were flocking to Luigi's Mansion before SSBM hit!
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