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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 758

consolefreak | Posted 11/26/2009 1:57:59 PM | message detail
None of those Leon. I would have them be paired up by nominations (unlike strength, this is an objective measure). 1 seeds go with 16 seeds, 2 with 15s and so on.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 1:59:58 PM | message detail
Well, that would be along the lines of what I meant by "random," really. I didn't mean totally random. I just meant that there would be no criteria used to pair up the characters (other than nominations, I suppose).
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/26/2009 2:17:53 PM | message detail
Link/Mario vs Cloud/Sephiroth Tag-Team match, go.
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paulg235 | Posted 11/26/2009 2:19:33 PM | message detail
It'd be the same as Link/Cloud/Samus/Seph 2007, so Link/Mario would win.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/26/2009 2:23:40 PM | message detail
Let's make up simple one-match scenarios for tag-team battles. Something new and potentially relevant!

My example's kinda obvious for Link/Mario, so here's another.

Vincent/Sora vs Sonic/Mega Man
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2009 2:23:58 PM | message detail
More like Link/Sephiroth vs. Cloud/Mario
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/26/2009 2:27:30 PM | message detail
I'd prefer a nice mix of teams: some have very similar strengths, some have a wider strength gap among teammates, and a few (only a few!) have large strength gaps. Same with teams from the same fanbase- I'd like a few teams from the same fanbase, but a large majority of them not to be closely connected. Loose associations like "both are silent protagonists" are fine and good.
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 2:30:23 PM | message detail
Clink vs the rest of the field.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/26/2009 2:46:46 PM | message detail
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message detail The only think Prinny has going for him is that he looks like a penguin. Other than that, I'll be stunned to see him place over anyone except Laharl.


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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/26/2009 3:47:40 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #105
Let's make up simple one-match scenarios for tag-team battles. Something new and potentially relevant!

My example's kinda obvious for Link/Mario, so here's another.

Vincent/Sora vs Sonic/Mega Man


Probably Vincent/Sora there. The morning vote and ASV are Vincent's weak blocks now, so Sora mitigates that and lets the pair kill the Noble Niners during the day AND night.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 3:58:21 PM | message detail
To me, I wonder if being in the same company and drawing from the same fanbase (as Vincent/Sora would) is better or worse than being two characters that draw from different fanbases (relatively speaking, as Sonic and Mega Man don't SFF each other).
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/26/2009 8:11:49 PM | message detail
Worse more than likely. Vincent/Sora would be drawing from the same fanbase and thus only drawing from a smaller portion of the userbase.

That coupled with the fact that that fourpack likely goes Mega Man > Vincent > Sonic > Sora in terms of strength and it seems like a no-brainer.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/26/2009 9:13:11 PM | message detail
I'd guess being from the same fanbase is a bad thing, but we've seen this argument blow up in our faces before during the series contest- there it turned out that having your fans like most of the games in the series (Zelda) was better than each game in the series having its own fans (Final Fantasy).
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/26/2009 9:14:57 PM | message detail
But I'd go with Megaman and Sonic there- don't think Vincent/Sora will get many votes outside of big Square fans, and that's no longer enough to win a match here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 9:15:50 PM | message detail
So I wonder what the big deal is about Monday. Bacon said something about it being a big day in his latest SBallin'.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/27/2009 7:37:05 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #115
So I wonder what the big deal is about Monday. Bacon said something about it being a big day in his latest SBallin'.


Hopefully he will announce the format then!
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/27/2009 8:45:47 AM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #115
So I wonder what the big deal is about Monday. Bacon said something about it being a big day in his latest SBallin'.

10th anniversary of PotD
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MetricTrout | Posted 11/27/2009 8:51:16 AM | message detail
Tag teams are worthless.

1. The teams should consist of characters from the same game/series (Link/Ganondorf, for example)

Garbage. Ganondorf's presence in that example would be a non-factor. Basically, you just are eliminating half the field this way.


3. The teams should consist of characters with similar strengths (such as having Crono and Mega Man on the same team, for example)

4. The teams should consist of one strong character and one weak character (Cloud and Laharl, for example, though this may be too subjective, especially when it comes to new characters)


Lol, try getting SBAllen to admit that different characters have different strengths. Fun fact: SBAllen does not overanalyze these contests like we do. He probably care more about which brand of toothpaste to buy at Wal-Mart than about these damn contests.


2. The teams should not have characters from the same game/series (though with Smash Bros. characters, you COULD make an exception since it's not the primary series of most of the characters)

5. The teams should be chosen completely at randomhttp://static.smarterfox.com/media/wiki-favicon-sharpened.pnghttp://www.google.com/favicon.ico


The best idea, but still garbage. And this brings me to the real reason tag teams will not work. Suppose your typical GameFAQs voter sees the following matchup:

1. Character you like/character you hate
2. Another character you like/another character you hate.

How would your typical GameFAQs voter react? The most likely scenario is that he would just not vote at all.
nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/27/2009 8:51:25 AM | message detail
Also, THE best poll ever.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2009 9:51:48 AM | message detail
1. Character you like/character you hate
2. Another character you like/another character you hate.

How would your typical GameFAQs voter react? The most likely scenario is that he would just not vote at all.


What are the chances of that happening?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/27/2009 10:20:40 AM | message detail
I think people would just end up voting for the team that had their favorite overall character on it anyway, unless it's something along the lines of "Two characters I like vs. One character I like most and one character I don't like," but who knows.

I'm not saying I want to see the format because I don't see a lot of potential in it; I was just throwing out how he could go about it if we do get it, and I'm having a hard time thinking of another format he could use and still have 128 characters.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/27/2009 2:45:52 PM | message detail
Every day I'm becoming more and more sure that we'll be seeing a 128 character Tag Team bracket, 1 seeds paired with 16 seeds and so forth. I mean think about it- SB loves getting in 128 entrants, he refuses to let a Contest run more than 70 days, he refuses to run two matches a day, he loves having 4 entrants on every PotD (to "drive up votals"), and he's not going to make more work for himself by making sure every team consists of two characters from the same series.

Speaking of which....

charmander, are you going to be running a "guess the entrants" Contest this year? I'd think it would be fine to start it now even without knowing the format; you could just set up entries so that people would post the 64 characters they're most sure about first, and then another 64 after the break (in case of it being a full field of 128, which again I think is likely).

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2009 4:29:30 PM | message detail
I'll probably do that tomorrow. I was thinking of just letting everyone guess 128 characters to make it simple, I would be very shocked to see only 64.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/27/2009 9:23:45 PM | message detail
Tag-teams would be lame just because of how god damn arbitrary selecting the tag-teams would be.

Now, if we got to nominate characters in pairs, that would make things much more interesting. Of course, that would be a pain in the ass to do if, say, your top two nominations are Link/Snake and Cloud/Snake. If Link/Snake got more noms, would Cloud be screwed out of the contest altogether?

But nominating set pairs is the only way I can really see a tag team bracket being awesome.

Anyway, let's do more arbitrary tag-team match-ups.

Link/Cloud vs Snake/L-Block
Link/Snake vs Cloud/L-Block
Link/L-Block vs Cloud/Snake
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/27/2009 9:24:40 PM | message detail
And here's a great one I just thought up.

Master Chief/Sonic vs Bub/Bob.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/27/2009 9:25:21 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #125
And here's a great one I just thought up.

Master Chief/Sonic vs Bub/Bob.


if there are tag teams, bub and bob would be the best team ever
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Mega Mana | Posted 11/27/2009 9:25:25 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong/Knuckles vs. Master Chief/Alucard
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2009 8:52:10 AM | message detail
Link/Cloud > Snake/L-Block, easily.
Link/Snake > Cloud/L-Block, easily.

The last one is hard. Let's go with Link/L-Block; their fans will probably be more loyal.
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 4:05:48 PM | message detail
so I got to thinking about what would happen if we had a best new character of the decade contest. after thinking for about five minutes, I came up with this:

1. Auron
2. Sora
3. Dante
4. Kratos
5. Tidus?

kind of a sad list, but then I got to thinking about what the strongest new Nintendo character was this decade and was utterly stumped. I eventually gave up and just decided on Ike, and that's more because he's in Brawl than anything he's done on his own. someone prove me wrong here because it's kind of hard to believe that our contest overlords have failed to put out a new IP that resonates with fans all decade.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/28/2009 4:06:51 PM | message detail
sandbag
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/28/2009 4:07:33 PM | message detail
No Master Chief on that list?

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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 4:08:13 PM | message detail
after watching his 2008 performance, he belongs nowhere near the list, honestly.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/28/2009 4:08:15 PM | message detail
I'm honestly not sure if Master Chief could beat Tidus one on one. Easily in 4ways though cuz of lack of anti votes however
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/28/2009 4:09:28 PM | message detail

From: transience | #132
after watching his 2008 performance, he belongs nowhere near the list, honestly.


you mean the performance that he went about even with the character who beat sonic and sephiroth?
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 4:11:01 PM | message detail
hm, I wonder if Naked Snake counts as new. probably not, but if he did he'd be at least #3 with a good picture, and more likely #1.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/28/2009 5:22:19 PM | message detail
Tidus isn't THAT close to Dante -- MC > Tidus, please. Big Boss definitely should be high on there, too.

As for Nintendo's decade for new IPs, Ike or Sandbag is probably it...which is really really funny. Nintendo didn't really have a lot of new IPs though, at least considering their influence and amount of games out there. What all fit the mold that we've seen in contests before?
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/28/2009 5:23:19 PM | message detail
Er...actually, scratch BB. Didn't think of the rest of the series...!
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/28/2009 5:23:33 PM | message detail
Big Boss definitely should be high on there, too.

Big boss was from the 80s.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/28/2009 6:29:20 PM | message detail
I've gone through all the contests and found sixteen characters that are were created by Nintendo no earlier than 2000...

Isaac
Felix
Captain Olimar
Tom Nook
Mr. Resetti
Nidoran F
Tingle
Midna
Agent J
Bidoof
Mudkip
Matt (Wii Sports)
Ike
Lucario
Lucas
Sandbag

...between those sixteen characters, they've competed in thirty-two matches and beaten somebody twenty-two times times (Serge, Zelos, Agent 47, Kratos Aurion, Axel Steel, Miles Edgeworth twice, Tingle, Pit, Lloyd Irving, Tom Nook, Vergil, Pac-Man, Agent J, Zelda, Guybrush Threepwood thrice, Isaac, Spy, Commander Shepard, and Magus [note: four of these nineteen are Nintendo post-2000])...none of which were one-on-one. Only five of Nintendo's newest sixteen have advanced to R2 (Midna twice, Bidoof, Mudkip twice, Lucario, and Sandbag), none of which have either truly won a match or reached R3 to date.

What a crew.
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 6:31:37 PM | message detail
hmm, Midna might be the answer.
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FFDragon | Posted 11/28/2009 6:34:10 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 11/28/2009 9:29:20 PM | #139
I've gone through all the contests and found sixteen characters that are were created by Nintendo no earlier than 2000...

Nidoran F


what
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/28/2009 6:37:08 PM | message detail
And now, to make a Nintendo post-2000 bracket since we have an even sixteen characters:


Sandbag
Lucas

Lucario
Felix

Midna
Mudkip

Matt (Wii Sports)
Captain Olimar

Bidoof
Tom Nook

Isaac
Nidoran F

Tingle
Mr. Resetti

Agent J
Ike
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/28/2009 6:38:14 PM | message detail
From: HaRRicH | #142
Nidoran F

1997 would like a word with you.
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FFDragon | Posted 11/28/2009 6:38:55 PM | message detail
Early 1996 in Japanland.
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 6:39:05 PM | message detail
ditch Nidoran and add in Waluigi. there's your bracket.
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 6:39:57 PM | message detail
oh wait, friggin' Mudkip. it's between Ike and Mudkip.

yay
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/28/2009 6:40:06 PM | message detail
...okay, I stand corrected on Nidoran F -- my first source showed Ruby/Sapphire and I assumed that was its origin too quickly. Fifteen losers, not sixteen.
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 6:44:26 PM | message detail
other options are like.. Fawful, and something out of the Paper Mario games maybe. maybe some of those Fire Emblem guys that the fanbase is always trying to rally behind but can never decide who. maybe a fourth-gen Pokemon starter or something. 9-volt from Warioware! believe!

a Nintendog! the Balance Board from Wii Fit!

and you forgot Master Hand. how could you?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/28/2009 6:45:16 PM | message detail
Nidoran F is 90's. Same gen as Pikachu and all.

Out of those, I'd pick either Sandbag or Mudkip, probably Mudkip due to its combo joke/Pokemon appeal.

Sandbag got 40% against Sonic while Mudkip got 40% against Mega Man X in Round 1. Of course, Sandbag was probably boosted since he was going even with Magus.

Round 2, Sandbag couldn't even beat Sub-Zero, only getting 42.5% on him. Mudkip was stuck in a big SFF-fest, but still hung close to Zelda and did perform better than Sandbag against tougher competition. Hell, in R2 Mudkip nearly passed Sub-Zero in votals!

Yeah, give me Mudkip over Sandbag anyday.
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transience | Posted 11/28/2009 6:46:55 PM | message detail
oh, I forgot Vivi in the other list. he beats Tidus.
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