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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 758

LeonhartFour | Posted 11/25/2009 7:06:42 AM | message detail
I don't really have any confidence in Mog to do anything. I know people expect him to have an avatar effect (like Vivi gets the black mage avatar effect), but I just don't think people really care that much about moogles, especially nowadays. I mean, moogles aren't even a very common element in Final Fantasy anymore. FFVII just had Cait Sith's stuffed moogle that he rode on (and Mog House...), they weren't in FFVIII at all, the only part they played in FFX was being one of Lulu's dolls, they did play a bigger part in FFIX and FFXII, but those are the two least popular mainline FF games in the PS era (FFXI notwithstanding). Yuna did wear a moogle costume in FFX-2, I guess.

But the point is that moogles aren't a big part of the series anymore, so I wouldn't expect great things out of Mog. Yeah, I guess you could argue that the black mage isn't a big part of Final Fantasy anymore either, and I'd agree with that. But Vivi's got a much cooler design, and I'll blame the difference on 8-Bit Theater.
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voltch | Posted 11/25/2009 7:27:24 AM | message detail
In that case I wonder who'd be stronger between Mog and Montblanc.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/25/2009 7:34:01 AM | message detail
Montblanc wouldn't be worth anything, honestly.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/25/2009 7:35:48 AM | message detail
Mog, easily.

No one cares about Montblanc.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/25/2009 9:03:15 AM | message detail
Also Locke and Edgar have a chance at being stronger than Shadow
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/25/2009 9:19:36 AM | message detail
Here's a new bracket made from the nomination tally. Also looking at the numbers everyone with a one or a two seed plus Dan Hibiki seems to be doing well and will require little to no outside help.

Division 1

1) Prinny
8) Big Boss

4) Jecht
5) Professor Layton

3) Dan Hibiki
6) Ike

2) Darth Revan
7) Yuri Lowell

Division 2

1) Cid Highwind
8) Nathan Drake

4) Lyn
5) Vault Boy

3) Archer
6) Gene

2) Pokemon Trainer Red
7) Maxwell

Division 3

1) Ken
8) Sniper Wolf

4) Godot
5) Minsc

3) Phoenix Wright
6) Yuna

2) Yoshimitsu
7) Gilgamesh

Division 4

1) Charizard
8) Boko

4) Jack Frost
5) Proto Man

3) Jigglypuff
6) Albert Wesker

2) Doc Louis
7) Zack Fair

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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/25/2009 10:16:32 AM | message detail
Division 1

8) Big Boss

4) Jecht

6) Ike

2) Darth Revan

Division 2

1) Cid Highwind

5) Vault Boy

6) Gene

2) Pokemon Trainer Red

Division 3

1) Ken

4) Godot

6) Yuna

7) Gilgamesh

Division 4

1) Charizard

5) Proto Man

3) Jigglypuff

7) Zack Fair

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/25/2009 10:55:17 AM | message detail
Wylvane's post is great for all the wrong reasons.

Division 1
8) Big Boss
4) Jecht

6) Ike
2) Darth Revan

Division 2
1) Cid Highwind
4) Lyn

6) Gene
2) Pokemon Trainer Red

Division 3
1) Ken
4) Godot

6) Yuna
7) Gilgamesh

Division 4
1) Charizard
5) Proto Man

3) Jigglypuff
7) Zack Fair


Division 1
8) Big Boss
6) Ike

Division 2
1) Cid Highwind
2) Pokemon Trainer Red

Division 3
1) Ken
6) Yuna

Division 4
1) Charizard
7) Zack Fair


Division 1
8) Big Boss

Division 2
1) Cid Highwind

Division 3
6) Yuna

Division 4
1) Charizard


1) Cid Highwind
1) Charizard

1) Cid Highwind

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Kaxon | Posted 11/25/2009 11:36:33 AM | message detail
Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates.

I still wish my term Fodder Failure Factor had caught on back in 2007...
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jonthomson | Posted 11/25/2009 1:01:44 PM | message detail
so has anyone got a link to the current big rallies? tried searching for a bit, couldn't find any. don't overly care about anyone new getting in other than jigglypuff
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/25/2009 3:50:33 PM | message detail
I was trying to make a tag-team bracket, but I don't have enough time so I randomized everything and got this, some pairs are obviously unfair, but there are some good matches.

Division 1

Bayonetta/Scorpion
Frog/Vault Boy

KOS-MOS/Raiden
Aeris/Tifa

Chun-Li/Nathan Drake
Fox/Minsc

Charizard/Jigglypuff
Bomberman/Tommy Vercetti

Division 2

Arthas/Captain Falcon
Ecco the Dolphin/Locke Cole

Crash/Seifer
Donkey Kong/Little Mac

Jecht/Sora
Dan Hibiki/Darth Revan

Diddy Kong/Ryu (SF)
Pokemon Trainer Red/Sonic

Division 3

Weighted Companion Cube/Yoshimitsu
Master Chief/Rosalina

Cid Highwind/Peach
HK-47/Morrigan

Duke Nukem/Mega Man
Maxwell/Wario

CATS/Pikachu
Solid Snake/Sub-Zero

Division 4

Doc Louis/Zidane
Isaac/Luigi

Proto Man/Sackboy
Amaterasu/Vincent

Gene/Riku
Cloud/Diablo

Albert Wesker/Mega Man X
Godot/Samus

Division 5

Auron/Vivi
Knuckles/Midna

Chris Redfield/Pac-Man
Nightmare/Sniper Wolf

Liquid Snake/Zelda
Claptrap/Kirby

Ken/Rikku
Tidus/Yoshi

Division 6

Dante/Ike
Gordon Freeman/Kratos Aurion

Niko Bellic/Zero
Jill Valentine/K. K. Slider

Fei Fong Wong/Mewtwo
Falco/Kratos (GoW)

Magus/Shadow
Archer/Ocelot

Division 7

Prinny/Yuri Lowell
Fawful/Lara Croft

Bub/Sephiroth
Kain Highwind/Squall

Altair/Yuna
Jack Frost/Ryu Hayabusa

Alucard/Meta Knight
Link/Zack Fair

Division 8

Balthier/Minsc
Crono/Ganondorf

Kefka/Mario
Bowser/Ness

Ezio/L-Block
Big Boss/Phoenix Wright

Marth/Sunflower
Leon Kennedy/Professor Layton

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/25/2009 4:59:37 PM | message detail
Tag team seems like too much work.

The format will be lazier, I imagine.
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transients | Posted 11/25/2009 5:06:33 PM | message detail
Red -- or any human Pokemon character -- is trash and I'm surprised he has any support. though I imagine the stats topic would be generally down on him so I'm probably preaching to the choir here.

I've been supporting Mog since 2004, but his time has just passed. Moogles in FF7? barely. FF8? I don't think so. FF10? nada. FF12? uhh, well sort of, I guess. but the popular games don't have them and we've already seen what being in FF6 will get you: nothing.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/25/2009 7:01:38 PM | message detail
I'm not even touching a tag team mock up with a ten foot pole.

And the only human Pokemon characters worth nominating are Brock and Misty, since they have the most going for them in terms of nostalgia, plus they've got defined personalities.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/25/2009 7:09:28 PM | message detail
Aww yeah finally back. Anything I missed the last 5 days or so that was big news regarding the contest?
Biolizard28 | Posted 11/25/2009 7:10:12 PM | message detail
Aside from a second database update, FINALLY, no.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/25/2009 7:12:03 PM | message detail
Hey, discrediting Pokemon before being bitten in the ass is a Stats topic tradition. Wouldn't have it any other way, especially since pretty much the one time that didn't happen was with...Lucario.

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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/25/2009 7:12:15 PM | message detail
Yeah, I saw that. Was pumped to see Sandal added. Seems the rallies on the Bioware forums I saw for him are actually working
Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/25/2009 9:24:31 PM | message detail

From: transients | #063
Red -- or any human Pokemon character -- is trash and I'm surprised he has any support. though I imagine the stats topic would be generally down on him so I'm probably preaching to the choir here.

I've been supporting Mog since 2004, but his time has just passed. Moogles in FF7? barely. FF8? I don't think so. FF10? nada. FF12? uhh, well sort of, I guess. but the popular games don't have them and we've already seen what being in FF6 will get you: nothing.


Yeah. It kinda sucks because Mog had so much potential, and a few years ago could've been decent since Moogles were still big, but now they've faded and are only integral in the less-popular FF games here. But I think Chocobos also will be much less powerful now than they'd be five years ago.

I still think a Goomba would be a decent midcarder even today, though.
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transience | Posted 11/25/2009 9:42:02 PM | message detail
give me a chocobo over a goomba any day. I think FF fans care more about chocobos than Mario fans do about goombas.

when a goomba gets a name like Bobby Corwen or multiple spinoff games -- in multiple genres no less -- let me know.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/25/2009 10:49:35 PM | message detail
A sandbag and a hand have beaten Square characters before, ? Block beat L-Block the day after it won the championship, and goombas are as classic as any enemy or animal in gaming. I'm not about to try predicting strengths or margins of victory, but I don't think a chocobo beats a goomba unless FF(7)-fans really care THAT much more about them than Mario-fans care about goombas.
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 2:24:08 AM | message detail
Chocobos will be back in fashion after FFXIII all thanks to Sazh.
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 2:47:04 AM | message detail
...I just realised that for all the talk Valkyria Chronicles isn't getting any noms, I had it down as a Tales games when it came to noms, we all know it has a small yet vocal fanbase, but I expected bigger rallies for them.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/26/2009 5:12:35 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #071
A sandbag and a hand have beaten Square characters before, ? Block beat L-Block the day after it won the championship, and goombas are as classic as any enemy or animal in gaming. I'm not about to try predicting strengths or margins of victory, but I don't think a chocobo beats a goomba unless FF(7)-fans really care THAT much more about them than Mario-fans care about goombas.


This. Goombas are even more iconic than Chocobos, and they haven't been nearly as big in later FF games as they have been in the earlier ones. They're just kinda there in FF6, 8, 10, and 12, while 7 and 9 mainly uses them for in-depth minigames. Hell, FF4 and FF5 are the only games that really calls for mandatory Chocobo use. Meanwhile, over 20 years later Mario's still squashing as many Goombas in NSMBW as he did in SMB.

I'd only expect a Chocobo to be slightly above the fodder line, while I think a Goomba could be a midcarder. It's also the only monster race I see doing any damage here, besides maybe Koopa Troopa for those hardcore Mario Kart fans who were pissed off when Koopa got replaced by Wario.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/26/2009 5:15:09 AM | message detail

From: voltch | #073
...I just realised that for all the talk Valkyria Chronicles isn't getting any noms, I had it down as a Tales games when it came to noms, we all know it has a small yet vocal fanbase, but I expected bigger rallies for them.


Always gotta have an incredibly obscure jRPG that would struggle to pass 10% in a 1v1 setting. Right, non-ToS Tales games? Right, Shadow Hearts? Right, Disgaea?

Between my last two posts, you can infer that I have no faith in Prinny. The question is whether it can show enough strength from character design to stay out of being Jade/Crystalis-style turbo-fodder.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/26/2009 5:37:31 AM | message detail
The only think Prinny has going for him is that he looks like a penguin. Other than that, I'll be stunned to see him place over anyone except Laharl.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/26/2009 5:37:43 AM | message detail
*only thing
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/26/2009 6:40:26 AM | message detail
Can't see chocobos or moogles beating goombas or koopas. Don't think it'd be close either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 12:23:59 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #072
Chocobos will be back in fashion after FFXIII all thanks to Sazh.


Frocobo for CBVIII champ
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 12:25:33 PM | message detail
Honestly I can see Chocobo beating Goomba and koopa
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 12:27:24 PM | message detail
Honestly, I hope we never have to choose. I'd side with Goomba over any generic creature that I can think of though.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 12:31:24 PM | message detail
So Sandal got onto the nomination list before Prinny, in the same update

Does this mean Sandal has more nominations then Prinny?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2009 12:46:11 PM | message detail
Looking at last year and which characters got in I would say yes.

However that doesn't guarantee anything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 1:36:08 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #082
So Sandal got onto the nomination list before Prinny, in the same update

Does this mean Sandal has more nominations then Prinny?


How many people do you think are gonna nominate Prinny outside of Board 8 and hardcore Disgaea fans?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/26/2009 1:37:37 PM | message detail
I wish we got to nominate Toadette again.

If I ever win Guru, I'd do that or some joke character like ? Block to piss everyone off.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 1:38:49 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #084
How many people do you think are gonna nominate Prinny outside of Board 8 and hardcore Disgaea fans?


well i'd doubt anyone woulda nominated Sandal! I mean, he has only one line the entire game and is just a vendor
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 1:39:24 PM | message detail
Well, I don't know anything about him, so...
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 1:40:41 PM | message detail
man if I was born with a name like Sandal i'd cry till it was changed to Thor.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 1:40:54 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #087
Well, I don't know anything about him, so...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKr6DnF8XmU

thats him, and he says nothing but "Enchantment" for everything you say to him
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/26/2009 1:41:12 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #087
Well, I don't know anything about him, so...


Yeah, who the **** is Sandal.

At least I knew who Prinny was before he was a Guru nom.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2009 1:42:56 PM | message detail
I guess that means someone is rallying for him as a joke.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 1:43:22 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #091
I guess that means someone is rallying for him as a joke.


yeah I made a topic the other day that I saw massive rallies for him to be nominated on the bioware forums.
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 1:43:45 PM | message detail
looking at other hyped releases, even though it wasn't a runaway success at all Faith from Mirror's Edge, what are your thoughts people?
I loved her design haven't played the game but I hear people liked the game for taking EA to a new direction along with Dead Space and her face is prominent in all advertising so what are her chances of making the field and how weak would she be?
I mean if Nathan Hale can make it why not her?
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 1:45:29 PM | message detail
oh, according to podcast, bioware is rallying for dragon age charcters?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 1:45:46 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #094
oh, according to podcast, bioware is rallying for dragon age charcters?


They are?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 1:47:19 PM | message detail
So, if we do get a tag team format, which of the following ways would you prefer it to be done:

1. The teams should consist of characters from the same game/series (Link/Ganondorf, for example)
2. The teams should not have characters from the same game/series (though with Smash Bros. characters, you COULD make an exception since it's not the primary series of most of the characters)
3. The teams should consist of characters with similar strengths (such as having Crono and Mega Man on the same team, for example)
4. The teams should consist of one strong character and one weak character (Cloud and Laharl, for example, though this may be too subjective, especially when it comes to new characters)
5. The teams should be chosen completely at random
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/26/2009 1:48:30 PM | message detail
I would prefer completely random. If they're similiar or same series, it kinda kills off the point of it.
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voltch | Posted 11/26/2009 1:49:50 PM | message detail
tag-team really does look just lame when you look at it like that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/26/2009 1:50:54 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #097
I would prefer completely random. If they're similiar or same series, it kinda kills off the point of it.


Well, if they have to be from the same game, then Squall gets paired up with Seifer or Laguna!
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paulg235 | Posted 11/26/2009 1:52:06 PM | message detail
Same game/series would sound good. I mean, we could still get a lot of good teams from it, and there would be less chance of an SFF match happenning.

Similar strengths sounds like a cool idea, but not if Link and Cloud/Spehiroth/Snake teamed up with each other.

Otherwise, I'd pick random over any of the remaining options.
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