GameFAQs Contests

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 758

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2009 3:50:22 PM | message detail
It'll be fun if Kratos is still in the bracket when God of War IIII hits, or at least when the release hype begins.
---
Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Ngamer64 | Posted 12/7/2009 3:54:09 PM | message detail
A tag team format that LOOKS just like a 4-way, but we add together the votes at the end? Well now... that I hadn't thought of. It would certainly be more fun to follow, since there's almost always something worth keeping an eye on in a 4way match, but I worry that it would be too confusing for the casual fan.

As in... yes, you saw on the results page that Link beat Cloud by 7000 votes, but because Tingle got destroyed by Raiden, Cloud is your Character Battle Champ! (Alongside Raiden.)

---
KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail!
thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 3:56:45 PM | message detail
If it's clear to the voters what is going on, it'll be treated pretty much the same as an actual tag team contest. If it's not, the voters who don't find out what is really going on until after they vote will feel tricked (and rightfully so). It's interesting from our point of view, but I don't think it's fair to those voters.
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/7/2009 3:57:32 PM | message detail
Screw the casuals. We need that
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png
Nominate Vault Boy!
Big Bob | Posted 12/7/2009 3:58:20 PM | message detail
I bet it'd be really hard to code, too, while still making the results look understandable.
---
Nominate Jack Frost from Shin Megami Tensei!
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52301744
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2009 3:58:31 PM | message detail
Do we? It sounds stupider than 4ways.
---
Yoblazer: http://i29.tinypic.com/dqhyf5.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/7/2009 4:00:22 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #456
Do we? It sounds stupider than 4ways.


4ways forever
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png
Nominate Vault Boy!
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 4:01:35 PM | message detail
Yeah, and considering how many people get confused by just filling out a bracket in these four-ways, there's pretty much no way your casual voter is going to pick up the team-aspect in what looks like a four-way before voting.
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 4:03:09 PM | message detail
By the way, nominations are still open, but it's off the front page now too.
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:03:28 PM | message detail
I thought you wanted stuff the casuals would enjoy, Albion. I mean, this modified tag-team seems to appeal primarily to stats people- we're the ones who care more about how strong characters actually are than about them just winning matches.
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
Ngamer64 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:05:52 PM | message detail
Noms closing ANY SECOND.

HM, get in your Prinny nomination fast!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/nominate_entry

---
KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail!
thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 4:06:45 PM | message detail
...last-second Doc Louis plug...
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2009 4:07:37 PM | message detail
Reeeed

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:09:27 PM | message detail
Remember to nominate Magus so he doesn't get snubbed!
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 12/7/2009 4:10:01 PM | message detail
Enchantment!
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png
Nominate Vault Boy!
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:10:49 PM | message detail
Bacon, brackets used to come out the same night as nominations closed. You can do it too!
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2009 4:13:54 PM | message detail
I don't recall ever receiving a bracket on the same day nominations were closed. Though I have seen the bracket released the day after nominations were closed.
---
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:14:55 PM | message detail
It's possible my memory is failing me on this, but I think that happened for 2004 and 2005.
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
Calintares | Posted 12/7/2009 4:15:47 PM | message detail
It would probably be better for Magus to sit this one out. I don't wanna find out how far he is willing to go in order to lose in the first round again.
---
Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to sig Krahenprophet and die.
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:18:16 PM | message detail
When you fail, you just try again. Repeatedly. It doesn't matter how much pain you have to endure, how much misery and despair, you try again the next year. Again, and again.

Someday, hedgehog. Someday, the 2003 x-stats will be vindicated, and you will fall to Magus. Someday!
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 4:18:18 PM | message detail
I believe it happened a really long time ago, yeah, but certainly not under SB's run. It'd be a nice change of pace if he would, but I'm okay waiting if it means we'll get a better bracket. Of course, just because we wait a week for the bracket doesn't mean it'll be a great one either, so we'll see what happens.
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
PiGuy96 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:19:02 PM | message detail
We want the damn bracket!

Actually I'd be satisfied with just the format.
---
RPGuy netbook remix
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2009 4:21:41 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9vF9u6sHRQ
---
Yoblazer: http://i29.tinypic.com/dqhyf5.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/7/2009 4:22:11 PM | message detail
I don't recall ever receiving a bracket on the same day nominations were closed. Though I have seen the bracket released the day after nominations were closed.

Sp2k5, Series Contest, CB6. Probably some older contest as well if I dig back even further.
---
Nominate Pokemon Trainer Red for GameFAQs' Character Battle 8 Contest!
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/nominate_entry
KingBartz | Posted 12/7/2009 4:23:30 PM | message detail
the reason i thought of that individual voting format is it would give us very interesting results. Any elite who got put with a 14, 15, 16 seed would be pretty handicapped.

Here's an example of a possible match from Ngamer's bracket

3. Leon Kennedy + 14. Captain Falcon
vs
1. Samus + 16. Geno

you have a near elite and a midcarder vs. a noble nine and mid fodder. But it's obviously going to go Samus > Leon > Falcon > Geno in votals.

Will Samus + Geno equal at least 50% of the vote? it would be a lot closer than if only team voting existed.

1. Link + 16. Eddie Riggs
6. Zero + 11. Knuckles

here's another match that would be very debatable with individual votals.
---
I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2009 4:25:02 PM | message detail
Ideally, Bacon has already been working on the bracket since he got a big enough nomination sample size.
---
Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:31:02 PM | message detail
I think you're underestimating Link a bit there. In 2007 he beat Crono + Vincent combined even with Zero handicapping him a bit. Granted that was at the height of Nintendo power and Crono was at his weakest point ever, but still.....just adding individual votes, it'll take at least 2 near-elites, and possibly more strength than that, to challenge Link + utter fodder.

How many characters can avoid a doubling from Link?

Cloud
Sephiroth
Snake
Crono (if CTDS gave him a decent boost)
Mario (though Link got pretty close to it last year)

Then we have characters who can possibly resist the doubling....

Vincent
Squall
Auron
Sora

I would not feel good taking the top of that group of near elites to avoid the doubling, and I'd feel pretty confident in Link getting the doubling against the bottom of that group.
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:33:48 PM | message detail
Actually, it's even better for Link than I thought, because of that list, only Snake and Mario aren't from Square. 2 Square characters will hurt each other, so you'd need them to average out to doing better than getting doubled individually. Nintendo characters of course get SFF-hammer'd.
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2009 4:36:36 PM | message detail
Link isn't losing any team-based format. If we start partnering other elites and Noble 9ers just to take a crack at him, the format's potential is already lost. Far better to just stick with 4ways and give Mario or Samus a clear shot to the finals.
---
Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
PiGuy96 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:42:44 PM | message detail
Look at the Battle Royale for a pretty instructive example - Link got 45% in Link/Cloud/Snake and 43% in Link/Cloud/Snake/Sephiroth. Give Link anyone who isn't completely worthless in that threeway match and the combined votes of Link and new guy win, and that's against pretty much the best competition you could hope for.

Tag teams, however, have the potential to play out differently. But it would definitely take a very favorable partner for Cloud to stand a chance against Link.
---
RPGuy netbook remix
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/7/2009 4:44:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, the bare minimum I'd take to defeat Link would be Mario/Snake, and that's if he gets paired with horrible, unfunny fodder like Tingle.
---
Placeholder anti-capslock sig.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:47:05 PM | message detail
How would joke characters be handled in that format?

Something like Vivi/L-Block isn't as funny IMO.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/7/2009 4:49:14 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 12/7/2009 4:47:05 PM | #482
How would joke characters be handled in that format?

Something like Vivi/L-Block isn't as funny IMO.


Joke characters aren't funny past the first, maybe second round, period. :-/
---
Placeholder anti-capslock sig.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2009 4:50:10 PM | message detail
Nominations closed. The highest known nomination count I saw before it was closed was 95494, which was a few minutes before it was closed. So the final nomination count probably got up to at least 95500 or slightly higher than that.
---
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!
charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2009 4:52:19 PM | message detail
Joke characters aren't funny past the first, maybe second round, period. :-/

I'm talking about other sites.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest
Xeybozn | Posted 12/7/2009 4:53:01 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #482
Something like Vivi/L-Block isn't as funny IMO.


How is L-Block/8-Bit Theater guy less funny?
---
Congrats to KrahenProfit
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 4:54:28 PM | message detail
Being coupled with other legit characters should kill their humor. What would be funnier to see beating Sonic and Master Chief, Bub & Bob or Bub and Yuna? That said, two jokes being paired together could potentially be more dangerous.
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2009 5:07:25 PM | message detail
How many nominations did we end up having?

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2009 5:11:39 PM | message detail
About 95.5k

Not as good as previous years, but those nomination periods were longer and had a banner.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/7/2009 5:13:46 PM | message detail
This also means our top 10 nominees have a good shot at making the bracket, I believe. Not a bad tradeoff, IMO.
---
Placeholder anti-capslock sig.
KingBartz | Posted 12/7/2009 5:57:23 PM | message detail
I wish SB would release a list of all nominations totals so we could see how that works... i imagine that for our puny 40-60 nom characters to get in, thousands of nominations have to be going to the big characters. i'll bet the noble niners all have in the range of 2-3000 noms
---
I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2009 6:05:59 PM | message detail
I wish SB would release a list of all nominations totals so we could see how that works... i imagine that for our puny 40-60 nom characters to get in, thousands of nominations have to be going to the big characters. i'll bet the noble niners all have in the range of 2-3000 noms

I don't think he would release a full list of every character nominated and how many nominations each one received. The full list of characters that were nominated would be several hundred, if not over 1000. If you want to, you could try asking this for Ask GameFAQs here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/feedback/index.php?type=23

I would ask about the following stuff:

Total number of nominations and how many of them were actually valid (nominations that weren't later deleted or invalid due to the use of multiple accounts).

A list of the top 10 characters in nominations and how many nominations the top 10 received.

How many total unique characters were nominated.
---
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 6:11:32 PM | message detail
Yeah, the Noble Niners have to get tons of nominations. It's only natural though -- they're the strongest in the contests every year, are from the biggest games, and are some of the easiest characters to think of. Notice that more than twice as many people from the nomination-poll the other day said they nominated several of their favorites instead of saying they used all of their nominations. Who are those people more likely to pick? The Noble Nine. Think about how little support Noble Niners usually get on Board 8 every year, yet how good of a position they usually get in the four-ways (and how high they're seeded in CJay's contests). We don't back them because we know they're gonna get the most nominations anyway.

It is weird how few nominations it takes for some characters though, percentage-wise. Take Nana from last year...there was probably next to no support off of Board 8 for her and she only had twenty-two nominations from this board, yet she still made it in somehow when over 200,000 nominations were cast. That's ~0.00011% of the nominations. **** is crazy sometimes.
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
KingBartz | Posted 12/7/2009 6:14:07 PM | message detail
hmm good idea for a ask gamefaqs. i asked the last question you suggested.
---
I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory.
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 6:18:10 PM | message detail
I don't think SB will be giving much information on that stuff -- neither he nor CJay ever really have. Still, I sent a question asking for just a little bit of info: who the most nominated character is and how many that character got. If we can get more info, great, but I'm doubting it so I'm shootin' for that piece.
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2009 6:20:03 PM | message detail
I always nominate Crono, because I can never quite shake the fear that he'll be snubbed one of these years.
---
Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.
KingBartz | Posted 12/7/2009 6:21:31 PM | message detail
I hope that our efforts got a lot new ones in this year.
---
I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory.
Psycho_Kenshin | Posted 12/7/2009 6:24:42 PM | message detail
Hell yeah, it'd be cool to see some fresh characters in here.

That said, Snake is still my #1.
---
One Piece: Pirates with style!
-= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =-
HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2009 6:34:09 PM | message detail
Doc Louis > Link
---
Please nominate DOC LOUIS from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
KingBartz | Posted 12/7/2009 6:34:52 PM | message detail
WE WANT THE DAMN BRACKET!
---
I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory.