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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 757

voltch | Posted 11/23/2009 4:36:02 PM | message detail
so when talking cult characters, is yuri lowell a better prospect than kratos aurion?
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ZFS | Posted 11/23/2009 4:38:37 PM | message detail
Dissidia would get more respect if it had made a bigger splash. Being on the PS3 instead of the PSP would have gotten it a lot more hype, but it didn't really need it. It could have done something for a few FF characters if it didn't come and go with little fanfare.

Then again, I guess GameFAQs did get into it -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/psp/home/939394.html

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voltch | Posted 11/23/2009 4:44:09 PM | message detail
it did make a splash though, maybe not a wave of hype but still seems better than crisis core.
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transients | Posted 11/23/2009 6:13:22 PM | message detail
like 900 of those votes were before the US version was even out. I don't think Dissidia made much of an impact at all; I've never seen someone argue over tiers or their favourite character or anything like that. I'm sure it exists but not to a notable degree.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/23/2009 7:41:02 PM | message detail
The people who'd buy Dissidia are probably already people who vote for FF characters in contests. Dissidia's not like Crisis Core, which brought a minor character from FF7 into the limelight and fleshed him out enough to get him his own legitimate fans. It's a bunch of already strong and weak characters who won't gain much strength, if any, from it, and frankly even if it was on the PS3, 360, and Wii I don't think it'd be a huge boost for the characters involved. Not that it wouldn't be ****ing hilarious to see Kefka boosted to Zack-level.

As for the fourpack, Squall > Auron > Tifa > Sora. I'd pick Squall over Auron 1v1 just because Squall's the main character of the game that came after FF7 and stands out a bit more. Tifa would hold her own, but I think Sora would get crushed and would struggle to get 15%. I also think Mega Man would beat him with an easy 55%. The kid's got ****.

You know what match I want to see? Mario/Luigi.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/23/2009 8:22:55 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3293

There you go.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/23/2009 8:29:02 PM | message detail
I kind of want to see Mario/Yoshi straight up. Mario should win, but maybe, just maybe, Yoshi will work his favorite Mario character magic and pull off a shocking upset?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/23/2009 8:31:08 PM | message detail
That would be glorious.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/23/2009 8:46:32 PM | message detail
If Yoshi can't beat Bowser, he ain't touching Mario.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/23/2009 8:51:51 PM | message detail
Without the context of a fourway, especially without Mega Man X mucking things up.

It just seems like a Mario/Luigi match would be unpredictable, from Luigi being anywhere from reenacting SFF'd Ganondorf to pulling a Shadow on his brother. The winner would be obvious, but the results wouldn't be.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/23/2009 8:59:23 PM | message detail
Eh, we've seen Mario double Bowser and Luigi before. I know Yoshi has won the Mario-polls, but Yoshi's still in their range contest-wise and it's not like Yoshi's been resistant to SFF from Link or Mega Man in the past. I can't see him having that magical rSFF-power against only Mario, especially one-on-one. I trust most character-polls as fairly reliable at least for rank, but not the Mario-polls or Sonic-poll because of Yoshi/Knuckles; I don't think Knuckles has even a hint of a chance at beating Sonic, so I can't consider Yoshi to pull that one out either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/23/2009 9:00:21 PM | message detail
I doubt Knuckles even wins the Sonic poll anymore, to be honest. Sonic Team is doing their best to make him irrelevant.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/23/2009 9:29:12 PM | message detail
I'm sure he doesn't -- he wouldn't have to drop as much as Yoshi did to lose to Sonic and Sega's tried to replace Knuckles with Shadow while giving him lame digging missions. Interestingly though, the Sonic-poll was actually asking for who your favorite Sonic Adventure character was. I don't think that matters much, but it's kinda weird to think Knuckles won a poll like that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/23/2009 9:49:44 PM | message detail
I would've voted for Knuckles out of principle anyway.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/23/2009 11:07:52 PM | message detail
As would I.


Let's play the ranking game:

Charizard
Cid Highwind
Gordon Freeman
Kratos
Leon Kennedy
Master Chief
Pokemon Trainer Red
Ryu Hayabusa
Vivi
Zero
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voltch | Posted 11/24/2009 2:04:29 AM | message detail
Leon
Zero
Cid
Vivi
Gordon
Kratos
MC
Ryu
Charizard
Red

urgh would not like to predict these one on one.
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 11/24/2009 2:58:04 AM | message detail
Leon Kennedy ( He did very well against Dante, and i consider Dante to be a lower tier near elite.)
Cid Highwind ( Well, he is a FF7 playable character so he shouldn't be underestimated.)
Zero
Vivi
Charizard (Shouldn't be too far away from Pikachu in term of contest strength.)
Kratos
Ryu Hayabusa
Gordon Freeman
Master Chief
Pokemon Trainer Red
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/24/2009 3:12:29 AM | message detail
I don't know about you guys, but I'd take Kratos and Ryu to DESTROY Vivi after their showings against cutesy characters. 1v1, Vivi is above DK's level, which Kratos and Ryu H are comfortably above.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/24/2009 5:48:36 AM | message detail
Cid Highwind
Leon Kennedy
Master Chief
Kratos
Gordon Freeman
Ryu Hayabusa
Pokemon Trainer Red
Zero
Vivi

I can't decide whether to put Charizard above Leon or below Freeman.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 8:49:20 AM | message detail
Cid Highwind
Leon Kennedy
Ryu Hayabusa
Kratos
Zero
Vivi
Master Chief
Charizard
Gordon Freeman
Red

I dunno. Nothing looks right to me. I think Hayabusa will do pretty well as long as he stays away from Snake! He beat Zero fair and square last year. Zero's just a shell of his former self. Vivi could beat him since it was so close last year, but I'll give Zero the benefit of the doubt there. Master Chief...I just dunno what to think of that guy.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2009 11:33:16 AM | message detail
Yeah, the whole pack feels weird -- they should all be pretty close together.

Cid Highwind
Gordon Freeman
Master Chief
Leon Kennedy
Kratos
Ryu Hayabusa
Vivi
Zero
Charizard
Pokemon Trainer Red

The Pokemon-characters are the biggest wildcards to me, but I don't really know which one I'd take to be more popular and being just below Zero isn't bad at all for newcomers. I know we saw Hayabusa > Zero > Vivi last year, but Zero/Vivi was nearly even last year and we're closing in on a new major FF-game while Zero goes another year with nothing, so I'll give him the edge this time. I just can't see Gordon losing to MC in a poll on the internet, especially since it should be very close -- that match would get rallied. That said, I don't really like having Gordon THAT high on my list...or Cid at the top. I dunno if Cid could beat Red any worse than 55-45 though, so it's an expected cluster****.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 11:34:32 AM | message detail
Zero's in the new Capcom vs. Company-whose-name-I-can't-spell game!
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/24/2009 11:35:23 AM | message detail
Serious Pokemon underestimation in this topic.

Except for Red. He's doomed.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 11:36:44 AM | message detail
I don't know what to make of Charizard. If he manages Mewtwo level, that'd be pretty good, but I don't know if I'd take Mewtwo to beat any of the guys I listed above Char.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/24/2009 11:36:46 AM | message detail
Cid Highwind
Leon Kennedy
Kratos
Gordon Freeman
Charizard
Pokemon Trainer Red
Vivi
Zero
Ryu Hayabusa
Master Chief

Not confident in this one bit.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 11:37:27 AM | message detail
Although I will say I won't be surprised if Master Chief beats all of those guys or loses to all of them.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2009 11:42:39 AM | message detail
I've been calling for Charizard/Tidus to be a good match for awhile and Vivi narrowly beat Tidus in 2007, so I'm rolling with that for now. I think he'll do better than Mewtwo, but going much past Tidus puts him closer to Pikachu than I'm comfortable doing. Afterall, this isn't the first NRT-champion from Pokemon that many thought would be the bad-ass from the series to compete with Pikachu. It's already a good credit to him that I'd consider him over Mewtwo.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2009 11:43:33 AM | message detail
And I forgot Zero was in that game, though I didn't think it was coming out for awhile. Is it already out?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 11:43:42 AM | message detail
Pikachu is the Pokemon king around here.
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voltch | Posted 11/24/2009 12:17:26 PM | message detail
I reaaally don't rate Ryu Hayabusa, sure Ninja Gaiden 2 sigma's out to gather the few ps3 fans that bought it but as badass a ninja he may be I don't think much of him, only have the pokemon characters below because frankly their range is way too unpredictable.
Leon Kennedy has Darkside Chronicles now though so I don't see him dropping even if he doesn't increase.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 12:22:46 PM | message detail
Besides playable Pokemon in the Smash series what other Pokemon would you allow in the contest (assuming non-joke entry)
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Xeybozn | Posted 11/24/2009 12:24:03 PM | message detail
Cid Highwind
Leon Kennedy
Kratos
Zero
Vivi
Charizard
Gordon Freeman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Pokemon Trainer Red

I'd say these guys are all fairly close, although I've got very little faith in Red being worth much . As for Ryu H./Zero, I don't think Zero would have lost that match if there hadn't been two Brawl characters there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 12:25:10 PM | message detail
As in, what Pokemon would I like to see who aren't jokes like Bidoof or Mudkip but aren't in Smash Bros.? Good question. Uhhh....Well, I only played Pokemon Blue, so I'm not familiar with any Pokemon beyond the first generation, but I don't really think any of them beyond a joke Pokemon would be worth much. Lucario's basically proven that.

I dunno. Maybe one of the rare birds, like Articuno, Zapdos, or Moltres?
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voltch | Posted 11/24/2009 12:26:07 PM | message detail
Blastoise and maybe bulbasaur or lugia, gengar would be the limit.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 12:26:54 PM | message detail
As for Ryu H./Zero, I don't think Zero would have lost that match if there hadn't been two Brawl characters there.

What does Brawl have to do with it? Dedede and Pit have nothing in common with Zero. In fact, Hayabusa seems to be affected by Brawl more than Zero (Okay, just Snake, but still!).

By the way, BT still owes me an account closure for my impeccable Snake prediction in Snake/Zero/Vivi/Hayabusa.
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Xeybozn | Posted 11/24/2009 12:49:54 PM | message detail
What does Brawl have to do with it?

Sorry, I meant to say Nintendo there. Which actually does make some sense; all the old Mega Man games were on Nintendo systems. It just makes more sense to me than Zero falling off so much in one year. He looked fine in '06 and '07, and Mega Man didn't fall off noticeably.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 12:55:32 PM | message detail
In 2006 Sonic would have almost defeated Zero by as much as Mario did in 2005
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2009 12:58:01 PM | message detail
For kicks, here's how our predictions have added up thus far for that list...

Cid Highwind - 57
Leon Kennedy- 54
Kratos - 39
Zero - 36
Vivi - 33
Gordon Freeman - 31
Ryu Hayabusa - 24
Charizard - 24
Master Chief - 22
Pokemon Trainer Red - 10

...and, since Wylvane left off Charizard, here's the list of nine with his ranking added.....

Cid Highwind - 66
Leon Kennedy- 62
Kratos - 45
Zero - 38
Gordon Freeman - 36
Vivi - 34
Master Chief - 29
Ryu Hayabusa - 28
Pokemon Trainer Red - 13
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 1:01:23 PM | message detail
I can tell that there is going to be some massive overestimation on Gordon Freeman next contest.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/24/2009 1:03:22 PM | message detail
Gordon beating half the people isn't 'overestimation', it's him increasing in strength some after the GameSpot contest renewed interest in Half-Life 2 and Valve kept cutting the prices of their games for like a month straight.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 1:07:23 PM | message detail
You still think that a contest on GameSpot is going to give Freeman a boost?

Unless Valve is planning to do the same thing on this site...
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voltch | Posted 11/24/2009 1:12:16 PM | message detail
Freeman is a nice gamble, he's overly reliant on the non gamefaqs community, but if he does get it, the payoffs could be huge in the one on one setting where a single point makes or break leaderboard placements.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/24/2009 1:13:50 PM | message detail
Considering after the contest on GameSpot B8 turned into Valve Central about a wekk, yes, there probably will be a small boost. Valve games only get stronger as time goes on.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2009 1:17:01 PM | message detail
I don't think the GameSpot contest is going to have the same effect on the Character Battle that the Villains Contest did on the following Character Battle, but I could be wrong.

He looked fine in '06 and '07, and Mega Man didn't fall off noticeably.

I dunno if I agree with that. Zero was a favorite on this board (if I recall correctly. Someone correct me if I'm wrong) to beat Luigi in 2006, and he was beaten pretty handily (Not a blowout, but the outcome was never in doubt either). He looked fine in 2007, I guess, but I think his closeness to Crono in round 2 was more an indictment of Crono than a compliment of Zero's strength. He looked pretty bad in round 3, but you can blame that on Last Place Factor, Link, or whatever. And keep in mind that he did beat Hayabusa pretty handily in 2005 (with 63% I believe), so Nintendo LFF or not (and with Dedede and Pit, I wouldn't expect it to be significant), to go from 63% to losing is pretty bad.

Mega Man looked pretty bad in 2006 as well. He bled like crazy to Axel with the ASV, couldn't beat Ryu worse than Bowser did, gave up nearly 46% to Sora, and got killed by Snake. He looked fine in 2007 for the most part, but he got beaten pretty badly in the match with Cloud/Samus/Ryu (Not that most people wouldn't have, but he was closer to Ryu than Samus, which isn't good). He looked fine in 2008 as well except for the loss to the Cube (which you can obviously blame on Zero). It's pretty obvious that Mega Man has lost a step though.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 1:21:41 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 1:22:29 PM | message detail
Considering after the contest on GameSpot B8 turned into Valve Central about a wekk, yes, there probably will be a small boost. Valve games only get stronger as time goes on.

Board 8 already had Valve fans before that contest, people just don't advertise it as much. I also wouldn't say Valve games are getting stronger, Half-Life did pretty badly between the two contests.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2009 1:23:07 PM | message detail
Damn it, the first part of the post should be in italics.
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voltch | Posted 11/24/2009 1:23:23 PM | message detail
anyone else thinking we seem to be getting much less joke nominations recently?
the last 2 years have been cluttered with brawl, Joke and Tales characters, but haven't seen any real massive push for total joke characters this time round.
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PiGuy96 | Posted 11/24/2009 1:40:38 PM | message detail
Zero was definitely the big board/guru favorite over Luigi in 2006.
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voltch | Posted 11/24/2009 1:41:32 PM | message detail
Really? I picked Luigi thinking it was a no brainer..I think.
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