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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 757

LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:21:06 PM | message detail
Well, you didn't say that!

But yeah, other than that, no. I wouldn't imagine Bacon will allow more than 5 FFVII characters in a contest, which is what we got last year (Cloud, Sephy, Tifa, Vincent, Zack). So one of those guys is gonna have to get snubbed if Cid's gonna make it, and three of those characters are mortal locks.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/21/2009 5:21:50 PM | message detail
And if 2007, poor Tifa got snubbed for zolom!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:21:58 PM | message detail
I wouldn`t call Vincent a mortal lock.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:22:43 PM | message detail
I'm not a big Vincent fan, but I don't want to see him get left out. I don't think a Noble Nine breaker should get snubbed. I highly doubt he will get snubbed though.

Plus, Squall still must have his revenge!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:23:45 PM | message detail
The Mario series had 6 characters in 2007

Mario
Luigi
Yoshi
Bowser
Toad
Peach

Then again I don`t think there has a been a single game that included everyone (until NSMB)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/21/2009 5:23:50 PM | message detail
Honestly I think the most likely to get snubbed if Cid gets in is Zack. I have a hard time seeing him get the nom support outside of b8 to top Tifa, and Cid is getting mad noms here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:24:09 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #153
I wouldn`t call Vincent a mortal lock.


I know he didn't make it until 2005, but I have a hard time seeing him miss as long as we have 128 characters. Plus, he still managed to make it in 2006 when we only had 32 males. I think once Vincent got in and was successful, it made it easier for him to keep coming back. It's the same thing with Sub-Zero, I think. He didn't make it until 2006, but he's made the last three.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:24:29 PM | message detail
Vincent's too strong for me to want him to get snubbed, but I'd rather have Cid and Zack than Tifa. If we have 128 characters there's absolutely no good reason why we shouldn't have 6 FFVII characters.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:25:29 PM | message detail
Zack will almost certainly be the one who gets snubbed if Cid gets in and Bacon's got a FFVII cap. I hope he gets back in though, and I nominated him for that reason.

Kinda strange since I've nominated both Zack and Cid, so...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/21/2009 5:27:30 PM | message detail
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Plus do we really want a contest without this buxom beauty?
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:27:45 PM | message detail
I'll say this though: don't be surprised if all the FFVII characters take a drop this year from last year. FFVII's day vote was good for years, began to falter in 2008, and took a dive down to CT/FFVI level in the games contest earlier this year.
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Heroic Common Sense | Posted 11/21/2009 5:28:36 PM | message detail

From: redrocket | Posted: 11/21/2009 6:16:01 PM | #144
I'm confused. If NKL's don't mean anything, why did Ulti switch to an alt??


Because they turn into worse stuff after 7 or 8 or whatever it is.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:29:08 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy VII had NIntendo games as opponents of course it`s not going to look good in the day.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:29:49 PM | message detail
I think FFVII should be about the same this year as last year.

And for the record, only the guys' day votes were good. Tifa and Aerith always had bad day votes, for whatever the reason.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:29:54 PM | message detail
It also had Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI as opponents, and it went just about exactly even with them in the ASV.
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Heroic Common Sense | Posted 11/21/2009 5:30:41 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | Posted: 11/21/2009 6:27:45 PM | #161
I'll say this though: don't be surprised if all the FFVII characters take a drop this year from last year. FFVII's day vote was good for years, began to falter in 2008, and took a dive down to CT/FFVI level in the games contest earlier this year.


Barring a full remake, it has nowhere to go but down.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:30:56 PM | message detail
SFF also has the tendency to screw up trends, but yeah, it's pretty obvious that FFVII's day vote has begun to falter when Vincent couldn't kill Crono with the day vote in 2008 like he did in 2007.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:31:51 PM | message detail
Although Cloud and Sephy may get slight boosts from Dissidia to counteract the FFVII atrophy, but I won't bet on anything major.
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Heroic Common Sense | Posted 11/21/2009 5:33:22 PM | message detail

From: PiGuy96 | Posted: 11/21/2009 6:13:08 PM | #143
*sigh*

Black Turtle and Ulti enter in the same topic. At least this means we're getting a contest.


Not posting =/= leaving

This topic is nearly worthless in the offseason (no offense) outside what-if matches.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2009 5:35:50 PM | message detail
I also wonder if having nearly a year and a half between Character Battles will deviate the characters much more than usual. Probably not since we've seen a lot of two-years-apart stats be pretty similar, plus we don't have well-grounded stats right now...but it'll still be the biggest gap between Character Battles we've seen yet and during a new time of year for the contest.

We may see some slightly bigger differences in the overall stats than usual, that's all. It's nothing that will particularly help us with predicting.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:36:20 PM | message detail
So what are the odds we get a bracket before 2010? I'd rather have a long bracket period than a long nomination period, but I doubt that's what will happen.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2009 5:38:29 PM | message detail
Which is why you made...how many topics this off-season?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/21/2009 5:39:00 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #172
Which is why you made...how many topics this off-season?


Cuz he loves seeing his name on the contest topics.
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PiGuy96 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:39:44 PM | message detail
Depends on how much Bacon wants to work between Christmas and Thanksgiving, I think. But didn't he say something about revealing the format next week or so? I don't think there'd be a huge gap between that announcement and the bracket.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 5:40:38 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 11/21/2009 8:38:29 PM | #172
Which is why you made...how many topics this off-season?


I'm willing to bet it's 2 or 3, tops.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:41:16 PM | message detail
Yeah, I wouldn't think he'd reveal the format until he revealed the bracket. We didn't know about 4-ways until the bracket was revealed in 2007, did we?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 5:41:29 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 11/21/2009 8:36:20 PM | #171
So what are the odds we get a bracket before 2010? I'd rather have a long bracket period than a long nomination period, but I doubt that's what will happen.


From: PiGuy96 | Posted: 11/21/2009 8:39:44 PM | #174
Depends on how much Bacon wants to work between Christmas and Thanksgiving, I think. But didn't he say something about revealing the format next week or so? I don't think there'd be a huge gap between that announcement and the bracket.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=11&topic=51711735

If you have faith in Bacon, the odds are 100% and the contest will start in January.

Which of course means Summer 2010.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:41:58 PM | message detail
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transience | Posted 11/21/2009 5:42:14 PM | message detail
I hope the nomination period is long. I want to see Lightning in the contest with a fresh FF13 at her back.

and if you guys have such a problem with Ulti's derails, you could, y'know, ignore him instead of expressing your disdain every time he does it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 5:43:07 PM | message detail
Ah, he does mention the bracket being released before 2010.

How long were nominations last year again?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:44:11 PM | message detail
and if you guys have such a problem with Ulti's derails, you could, y'know, ignore him instead of expressing your disdain every time he does it.

I like to think some people want Ulti to go back to his pre-2k5 self.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 5:44:23 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 5:45:13 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 11/21/2009 8:44:11 PM | #181
and if you guys have such a problem with Ulti's derails, you could, y'know, ignore him instead of expressing your disdain every time he does it.

I like to think some people want Ulti to go back to his pre-2k5 self.


People have this terrible misconception that I'm miserable, when I've actually never been happier. I don't get it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:48:54 PM | message detail
People have this terrible misconception that I'm miserable, when I've actually never been happier. I don't get it.

No one is saying your miserable, just that people liked you better pre-2k5.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 5:49:57 PM | message detail
Fiiiiine. Jesus, you guys are no fun.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/21/2009 5:52:26 PM | message detail
Anyone else think that the Ulti from pre 2k5 was actually a different person? Like.. literally?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 5:53:59 PM | message detail
Anyone else think that the Ulti from pre 2k5 was actually a different person? Like.. literally?

I do, but he got married so I guess that counts.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/21/2009 5:54:19 PM | message detail
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#145 Well, that comment was made on the assumption that we're having a normal 64-character bracket (stupid assumption). And 11 is pretty damn close to 10

Well there's Sonic and Snake as well so it's 13 plus potential others. Which of the 11 characters charmander6000 listed did you think would not make a 64 character bracket?(Assuming no company caps)


I said Nintendo characters, not Smash. Let me rephrase: Nintendo will lay an egg and will probably only have about 10 representatives this year if the bracket is 64 characters. Also, I can see DK getting snubbed.
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/21/2009 5:56:54 PM | message detail
I'm willing to bet it's 2 or 3, tops.

4 out of 6.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 5:59:19 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 11/21/2009 8:52:26 PM | #186
Anyone else think that the Ulti from pre 2k5 was actually a different person? Like.. literally?


rofl, that's a new one.

I was looking through some archives recently, and this is still the best stats topic ever: http://thengamer.com/stats/Pt401-450/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt402/

Yoshi in a close match during Topic 402, on the three year anniversary of LUEshi (a perfect storm of coincidence) and certain people couldn't pull the bug out of their ass for a literal once in a lifetime topic. If you can't have fun in a topic that timely and perfect, I'm willing to bet you don't have much fun period.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2009 6:00:27 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 11/21/2009 8:56:54 PM | #189
I'm willing to bet it's 2 or 3, tops.

4 out of 6.


Which is awesome for a guy that's between 6 and 12 feet tall and between 150 and 300 pounds. Average, you know.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 6:01:54 PM | message detail
Hey look, it's Ulti bashing people who don't think the same things are fun that he does and bringing things up from the grave for no reason.

This should be your answer as to whether this is the same guy from before 2005 or not.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 7:35:03 PM | message detail
To change the discussion here are some of 2k8's characters to watch out for.

Zack Fair: Is he a step below Vincent/Tifa or was he overrated? Sadly if only five FFVII characters are going to make it Zack may not make it.

Altair: He did pretty good, but will Assassin's Creed II help him or not?

Mega Man X: He seemed to be on at least Mega Man's level.

Gordon Freeman: I have a feeling that people will overrate him in this contest.

L-Block: How well will joke characters do in the new format?

Ike: Let's see what Brawl has done to his strength.

Pikachu: Is Pikachu's strength a four-way thing or will he be strong in the new format?

Sackboy: Hype vs. actual strength

Chris Redfield: 1st new game in years, how will he do?

Nathan Drake: With the PS3 gaining more popularity on GameFAQs and Uncharted 2 he could be just fodder.

Sonic: Was it four-ways hurting him or is he weak now?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 7:56:57 PM | message detail
Sonic is definitely just weaker. I have a hard time believing the format is worth that much, although I was originally an advocate of it the first year.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/21/2009 8:33:20 PM | message detail
Man, I missed a lot today. Here's my thoughts.

* Red would bomb. Not necessarily fodder, but not as strong as most people expect him to be. He'd be only a couple steps above the fodder line, probably a bit below Alucard I'd reckon.
* FF7 strength rankings: Cloud > Sephiroth > Vincent > Tifa > Cid > Red XIII > Aeris > Zack. I have a feeling if Zack does return, he'll be rather underwhelming and surprise everyone by being weaker than expected. Of course, I still think he'll still be decently strong. But I don't really expect any FF7 questions to be answered, though, as I expect Cid, Red XIII, and Zack to all not make the cut.
* lol @ Ulti getting suspended.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2009 8:45:56 PM | message detail
Whoa someone had something against Ulti, the stats topic is pretty good at having people not being modded.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2009 8:46:58 PM | message detail
Don't worry though. He still has more fun than you.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/21/2009 8:48:35 PM | message detail
Wow, Heroic Common Sense was also suspended. Two suspensions at once is a possible axe isn't it?
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 11/21/2009 9:48:35 PM | #199
Wow, Heroic Common Sense was also suspended. Two suspensions at once is a possible axe isn't it?


Sure, if Bacon wants me to pull all my contributions over posts that are normally NKLs.
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