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Magus, has any character received as much backlash as him, based solely on his contest performances?
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Chief has had ridicule, but not backlash. Sonic, maybe?
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Sonic's backlash comes from his games though.
Magus went from this board's no 1 character to w/e became of him after that knuckles match.
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #196
Hmm...going by a seeding system, you'd get...

Link
SF2 Winner

Sephiroth
Snake

Mario
Samus (ARGH)

Cloud
SF1 Winner

...I think. Never got the hang of that one. :P

This is incredible though. Look at what we get here.

We get to see how close Snake gets to Seph which everyone wants to see.
We get to see Mario vs Samus 1 on 1 again
We get Link and Cloud to crush their first round opponents.
And we finally get Mario vs Cloud 2.

Sure it ends with the inevitable Link Cloud clownstomp, but that can't be helped.
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i'd be surprised if Magus is ever leading in that match though. Honestly I'd think Crono/Chief would be a closer match then Chief/Magus

Even if Crono/Chief ended up closer than Magus/Chief, Magus would probably still lead Chief anyway. Based on Crono/Chief and Frog/Chief, MC could probably turn around at least a 60/40 gap or even more against Magus currently......a 10,000 vote comeback isn't even entirely out of the range of possibilities.

For Magus to never lead would require MC winning at least 60-40 I think, which isn't happening unless Halo 4 hype starts up.
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Link he come to town to dominate all other characters and trample them down with his sword of more votes.

Hmm...when you put it like that, it DOES have good stuff. It's a very nice gauge of Snake's power, and Mario/Cloud 2 would be good if only for nostalgia's sake.
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Is there even room left for a Halo4?
I thought they were just trying to extend the life of the franchise with stuff like odst and reach.
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Halo 3 ended with MC drifting towards a planet, so...maybe?
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At this stage I'm wondering how they could make a Halo 4 that doesn't weaken MC again with backlash, still a strong brand, but i get the feeling it's showings signs of fatigue.
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Magus, has any character received as much backlash as him, based solely on his contest performances?

Kefka comes pretty close IMO.
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Ironically, probably the two most hyped newcomers in 2003.
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Speaking of 2003 Luigi didn't really get any respect until 2006 and Tommy Vercetti was generally liked, but instead of hating him people just forgot about him.
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Luigi shocked just about everyone with how weak he was in 2003, although when you really look at it, he's probably closer to Mario than Magus is to Crono, or Vincent is to Cloud/Sephiroth, or Ganon is to Link, etc.
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From: red sox 777 | #213
Luigi shocked just about everyone with how weak he was in 2003, although when you really look at it, he's probably closer to Mario than Magus is to Crono, or Vincent is to Cloud/Sephiroth, or Ganon is to Link, etc.

It wasn't just Luigi being weak, but Squall being stronger than anyone expected, considering how unimpressive he was in 2002 and how hated FF8 generally is portrayed.
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Luigi was suppose to give Samus trouble (who was also hyped to give Link trouble)

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Luigi's redeemed himself in recent years though, whereas Magus and Kefka have only gone downhill since they first arrived. Who wants to take Magus against Ganondorf again, or Kefa against Pac-Man?
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At least Magus had a good year or two before croaking, including a strong performance on Link. Kefka's very first match involved him almost losing to a guy who got wrecked by Scorpion before getting tripled or whatever by Crono.

Hell, the Chrono series has all had great debuts in contests besides Marle and I think Chrono Cross.
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Got a FF13-poll today...still early, but it's got some interesting stuff. Seeing the PS3 looking to beat the 360 almost two-to-one on FF13-ownership here for now is impressive, though that's also a good job by Microsoft to nab that kind of Square-support. Also, 30% aren't fans of the FF-series...I dunno if we have any similar poll-information on the series, but I guess that's a little higher than I expected.
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besides Marle

Not to say Marle wasn't bad, but didn't she actually do pretty well during the day vote? Sure it was against Aeris, but the idea that Marle is the "best" day vote for CT characters amuses me.
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At least Magus had a good year or two before croaking, including a strong performance on Link. Kefka's very first match involved him almost losing to a guy who got wrecked by Scorpion before getting tripled or whatever by Crono.

Hell, the Chrono series has all had great debuts in contests besides Marle and I think Chrono Cross.

Scorpion lost to Link. Also at the time Marle's performance was half decent. She avoided SFF (which finally made people agree between the rift of old and new square) and at the time most people thought Aeris was as strong as Zelda.
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We all know they're Multiplatform games, yet I sill associate FFXIII with the PS3 and MW2 for Xbox 360, it's so weird, I mean it's like watching TV a casual would think Tekken 6 is only on PS3 and heck MW2 they keep saying on xbox and not show the ps3 bit either.
Wonder how advertising is like in the US, but it's got to be an influence on setting up the fanbases.
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Wonder how advertising is like in the US, but it's got to be an influence on setting up the fanbases.

I've seen TV commercials for MW2 already. I will make sure to pay close attention to the MW2 commercial and report back here when I see it again.
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Commercials can vary. Sometimes a commercial only mentions a specific system, like I'm pretty sure I've seen a MW2 commercial that only mentioned the 360, and the new Batman game being mentioned solely for PS3.

Wouldn't be surprised in the least if Sony pays extra money so that only the PS3 gets mentioned with FF13. FF13 should be one of the very few games where the PS3 version outsells the 360 version.

Of course, if the game turns out to be good, I'd be getting it on 360 anyway.
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In Canada they may show footage of only one system, but at the end of the commerical they show all the systems that the game can be bought.

Still it's pretty rare that a system doesn't have dominance over the other, maybe it's the type of people who bought the system.

Then again Street Fighter IV feels more Xbox360 while Tekken 6 feels more PS3.
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i think the RE5 at the end they showed the 360 with thelogo and some kind of bundle,but last line was something also on palystation 3 only said very quickly.
Didn't like the MW2 commercial with all the eminem music, I think the only other game that gets a big push since the GH5 playboy ads and Beatles ads died out was the Need for Speed shift ads.
though lunch/teatime ads are very DS/Wii focused and some make sense, like having Joe Calzaghe promote Punch-out, though Harry and Jamie Redknapp with Frank Lampard for Brawl was strange and Girls aloud being the reason for Professor Layton being pretty popular? UK ads are making less and less sense.
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Makes sense that certain games would be preferred on some systems than others. FPS and Sports games always sell much better on the 360, but RPGs, Fighters, and to a lesser extent DMC-esque action games tend to do better on the PS3 (SF4 and DMC4 are two examples where the PS3 version sold more). Not that it makes too much difference -- all these genres sell well on both systems.

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Just did a 64-character bracket, though let me tell you that it's hard to pick only 64 characters including new characters.

Division 1

1) Link (The Legend of Zelda)
8) Ragna the Bloodedge (BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger)

4) Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)
5) Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2)

3) Riku (Kingdom Hearts)
6) Yuna (Final Fantasy X)

2) Vivi (Final Fantasy IX)
7) Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)

Division 2

1) Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic)
8) Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII)

4) Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
5) Zelda (The Legend of Zelda)

3) Auron (Final Fantasy X)
6) Yoshimitsu (Tekken)

2) Vincent Valentine (Final Fantasy VII)
7) Sackboy (LittleBigPlanet)

Division 3

1) Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)
8) Epona (The Legend of Zelda)

4) Fox McCloud (Star Fox)
5) Ken Masters (Street Fighter)

3) Duke Nukem (Duke Nukem)
6) Knuckles the Echidna (Sonic)

2) Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
7) Chris Redfield (Resident Evil)

Division 4

1) Pikachu (Pokemon)
8) Lock Cole (Final Fantasy VI)

4) Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
5) Kratos (God of War)

3) Master Chief (Halo)
6) Magus (Chrono Trigger)

2) Zero (Mega Man X)
7) Kirby (Kirby)

Division 5

1) Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
8) Maxwell (Scribblenauts)

4) Protoman (Mega Man)
5) Little Mac (Punch-Out!!)

3) Yoshi (Super Mario Bros.)
6) Ryu (Street Fighter)

2) Luigi (Super Mario Bros.)
7) Dante (Devil May Cry)

Division 6

1) Mega Man (Mega Man)
8) Nathan Drake (Uncharted)

4) Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)
5) Squall Leonhart (Final Fantasy VIII)

3) Tidus (Final Fantasy X)
6) Charizard (Pokemon)

2) Crono (Chrono Trigger)
7) Pac-Man (Pac-Man)

Division 7

1) Solid Snake (Metal Gear)
8) Mr. Game & Watch (Game & Watch)

4) Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
5) Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII)

3) Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat)
6) Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy VII)

2) Samus Aran (Metroid)
7) Vault Boy (Fallout)

Division 8

1) Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
8) Jason Flemming (Shadow Complex)

4) Jecht (Final Fantasy X)
5) Darth Revan (Star Wars: KotOR)

3) Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil 4)
6) Liquid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)

2) Gordon Freeman (Half-Life)
7) L-Block (Tetris)

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that bracket seems more frontloaded on FF/nintendo characters than usual and Game and watch is never making the field ahead of CATS.
Missing alucard as well, but yeah i can see why it would be hard to make a 64 character bracket after the 2 128 character battles we just had.
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Well the bracket is already missing Aeris and Tifa and most mid-carder Nintendo/Square characters are missing as well.
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hmm, still i doubt riku and seifer make before aeris and tifa no zero either.
however i do like yoshimitsu, I wonder if he could make above the fodder line.
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I'll probably comment on more later, but I will say I like the Gordon/L-Block set-up at the very end of the first round. GameSpot champion VS GameFAQs's bastard-champion, both previously made into contenders because of rallying and potentially cheating, both were jokes at one time before they were taken seriously for contests...and L-Block just feels sly at the 7-seed position.

I would have enjoyed seeing that match in Pikachu's division, though that division is already good as-is and I know Pika beat L-Block last year. Then again, maybe if you switched Pika/Locke and Gordon/L-Block...that would set up an interesting Leon/Pikachu-rematch and there would be less of a favorite in the other division.
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Also, just to try starting some **** since Tifa was brought up and we've not seen her very much or very well in recent years, Tifa's outdone Vincent in two out of three comparable (not necessarily fair) situations since they were both introduced in 2005:

Tifa > Vincent against Sephiroth:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3274
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3291
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2920

Tifa > Vincent against Samus:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2555
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3294

Vincent > Tifa against Sonic:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2120
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2543

The Sonic-comparison is the most fair comparison, but it's also the oldest. Tifa got to face ZSS, though Vincent got to face Samus with Ganon in the poll. Tifa held up much better against Seph twice, though Nana/Ratchet and Kratos/Jill don't compare to Link/Mario. It's worth asking: is everybody still certain Vincent is FF7's #3-character?

Probably, but again, it's worth asking.
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I'd say yes. I just couldn't see Tifa beating Squall without...well, actually seeing it happen, while Vincent's fought the FF8 emo before and squeaked out a win. Just seems unlikely really.
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It only really matters if you care about who is seeded where. Either way is fine.
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It's worth asking: is everybody still certain Vincent is FF7's #3-character?

I've never been certain of this. I'd take him over Tifa and Cid, but would give them outside shots at the upset.
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cid is without a doubt the #3 for FF7
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well who would take Tifa over Squall?
Vincent and him are roughly the same level.
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^ Not too sure of that, Vincent/Squall was pre-AC and DoC.
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I wouldn't take Tifa over Squall either, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Also, while Vincent/Squall went 50/50 back in 2005, they could easily be farther apart now.....again I probably take Vincent, but give Squall not just a chance but pretty much a 50% chance of winning.

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I know vincent is stronger, but back then it was 50/50 now it's what 52-48?
It never ceases to amaze me just how damn strong Squall actually is, considering the fact that someone like Seifer can't even get in the contest.
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Squall has also had KH2 since Vincent/Squall, for the record.

FF8 is funny since I don't think there is any other FF-game that has had ONLY one rep in a contest -- every other FF-game I can think of has either had no reps or at least two. Squall's been the lone character we've ever seen from the game despite a Villain Contest, Female Bracket, two 128-character contests, at least one NRT-rally, and at least one KH-appearance. This doesn't necessarily mean FF8's other characters are trash, but...yeesh. How many nomination-opportunities can a strong respectable game from a major series blow for its characters?
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It's hilarious how many times Seifer's been rallied only not to get in, including an 128-character contest, right? While stuff like L-Block and Matt the Mii got in? And Rinoa couldn't even make it in a contest that had freaking Daisy, Amy Rose, and Roll? When FF had two FF6 women, two FF7 women, and two FF10 women? Even Nidoran F made it over Rinoa. It makes me wonder how much of Squall's popularity is really from FF8, especially since he didn't start impressing until his KH appearance. It's not like FF8 is a weak game here.

#3 is clearly Cait Sith, by the way.
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I think i'm not the only one here who was surprised by the raw power FFVIII displayed in the games contest, i had it pegged at FFVI levels max and then it goes and wreck several established powerhouses.
Squall has impressed, FFVIII has impressed there are 5 FFVIII characters in KHII(though only 1 with a prominent role) and with Dissidia Squall can only get stronger.
So for no one else in that game to make it is kinda frustrating,I want to know who'd be number 2, I kinda hope it's Zell but that would never happen.
Also VI and X have far more vocal fanbases and even XII managed to get 2 characters in, so VIII really is just an odd case.
It's as odd as Charizard never making the field.
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Well, I think in the end it didn't really look that impressive, after finishing last in the OOT/RBY/MGS/FFVIII match. It was just that Starcraft was really really really overrated.
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I think it did tbh. It was clear that it was hit by the SFF bug due to MGS, and it did manage to cost the game the win over RBY.
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Except rby was seen to be About a thousand times stronger than mgs

so ffviii did not cost it anything
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Nah, I'm a firm believer that same-console FF and MGS games share a fanbase due to how basically everyone plays them. With the big drop from OOT's presence, MGS would have won that, had FF8 not been there.
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