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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 755
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 2:10:43 PM | message detail |
Speaking
of Nightmare, that's what I'd call Bayonetta's ceiling unless her game
becomes a ridiculous smash hit. Don't see her reaching Dante-like
levels, considering Gene from God Hand's yet to make a contest and he
seems closer to her. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
Big Bob | Posted 10/27/2009 2:15:10 PM | message detail |
Rank these characters in potential strength from high-profile games this year: Nathan Drake (now that Uncharted 2 is out and seems to be doing well) Eddie Riggs (Brutal Legend) Claptrap (Borderlands) Maxwell (Scribblenauts) Little Mac (since Punch-Out Wii) Roxas (Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, now he has his own game) Ragna the Bloodedge (Blazblue) Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei mascot) Vault Boy (does Fallout 3: GOTY edition count?) All of them are from fairly recent games and have either not been in a contest before, or have reason to significantly improve. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2009 2:19:27 PM | message detail |
Dante would be a huge
leap, but I think Bayonetta could become our strongest non-Nintendo,
non-Square female. That would put her ahead of... Jill, I think. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 2:20:27 PM | message detail |
In order: Roxas (Can probably function as the black-coated Sora now) Little Mac (Was fodder on his two appearances, should be good fodder now) Nathan Drake (Was horrible fodder before, should be decent fodder now) Eddie Riggs (No reason to believe he wouldn't be on the same level as Razputin, maybe a little higher) Ragna the Bloodedge (Fighting game characters who are not Ryu and possibly Ken bomb, but this is terrible competition) Claptrap (Really?) Maxwell (Really, again? A game with mixed receptions, to boot) Vault Boy (Much as it hurts, he'd be bad fodder) Jack Frost (This dude, meanwhile, would be Jade-level fodder) --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 2:21:44 PM | message detail |
That
ain't saying much, Yo, but even then, I'd still peg her lower than
that. I honestly can't see Bayonetta beating Revolver Ocelot without
ridiculous sales and acclaim, and that's something Jill's done before. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/27/2009 2:23:49 PM | message detail |
People overrating a character from a game thats not even gonna sell that well in this topic --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2009 2:26:42 PM | message detail |
Being
around Jill's level should nearly be a free pass into every Character
Battle, especially since she's got her own series named after her.
Obviously, we'll have to wait for sales, but the game has already
developed an online fanbase, and the 40/40 from Famitsu is a fine start
for its quality. She really is like the female Dante. If the game sells over a million and gets a commercial, I think her ceiling can be higher than Nightmare, and easily at that. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2009 2:28:26 PM | message detail |
Oh,
Bayonetta gets released in Japan in under two days. This is the first
time in a while I'll actually be interested in a game's sales numbers
over there. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 2:29:54 PM | message detail |
She
could also be like Gene, and fail to do much. I mean, from what I've
heard, the game is closer to God Hand, even though it has many elements
similar to DMC. Plus, considering the weird theme of her game, I'd be
more willing to lowball it. That said, it'll be awesome if she was at Jill's level or higher. It just seems ridiculously unlikely. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2009 2:31:42 PM | message detail |
Ridiculously unlikely? That's stats talk if I've ever heard it. Let's wait for the sales. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/27/2009 2:31:44 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #258 for a game like that, I wouldnt take japanese salse to mean much compared to ours. It just seems like the type of game Japanese would be more into --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 2:35:48 PM | message detail |
Stats
talk? No, niche talk. The game has a ton of bizarre elements. In my
experience, the weirder a premise gets, the less it sells.
Additionally, a million copies seems like veeeeeeery little to grant
contest strength. I can think of several instances of characters who
come from games that sold that, only to never get in or fail to do much. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2009 2:44:33 PM | message detail |
Dante's
games aren't sales busters. The original DMC is at about 2.75, and it
was significantly less than that in Summer 2002, but he's always been
strong. You don't need huge sales numbers (Dante breaks Chief
1v1 and takes him in 4ways now). I think catching a devoted fanbase and
creating an appealing character they could grow attached to is key. It
seems like Sega has undertaken a pretty ambitious hype campaign for the
game in Japan. If it gets commercials here, and if the quality meets
the hype, I'll have pretty good expectations. Unless I'm missing a big
name or two, I think Bayonetta can end up as the biggest character of
this generation just as Dante or Sora are the biggest of the last one
(although her competition is obviously much weaker). --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
voltch | Posted 10/27/2009 3:40:23 PM | message detail |
Haven't got uncharted 2 but does the game leave enough for a possible sequel? i think the main problem with Drake was he didn't stick out in a game that few people on gamefaqs played, when the PS3 was HATED. But now Drake's name is all over the place and the anti-ps3 sentiment has vanished and his game has huge hype and popularity, is it not possible that he might get a big jump too? I don't think he'll be as strong as Bayonetta but surely above maxwell and eddie riggs. --- Shakes Fist! |
XxSoulxX | Posted 10/27/2009 3:43:52 PM | message detail |
I don't think he'll be as strong as Bayonetta but surely above maxwell and eddie riggs. Drake will be much stronger then Bayonetta. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
voltch | Posted 10/27/2009 3:47:26 PM | message detail |
yeah,
but the whole lost to CATS deal makes one wonder if his ceiling is well
a CJ or even a Marcus Fenix, really popular game and franchise,
character that refuses to be popular. --- Shakes Fist! |
voltch | Posted 10/27/2009 3:52:10 PM | message detail |
Also
Bayonetta seems to be the kind of game that beats you over the head
that she is the main character, while uncharted makes you feel like an
indiana jones, and reminds you perhaps of tomb raider, Bayonetta's ads
are all about Bayonetta herself, it's just that the game promotes her a
lot and as a character she will stick out because female dante aside,
she is a huge selling point of this game, while uncharted 2 was
promoting a TON of features like multilayer and co-op but it wasn't
pushing Drake like MGS pushes Snake. Though at least we know who he is, i mean a few years back i had no idea who nathan hale and nathan drake were. --- Shakes Fist! |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 10/27/2009 4:14:10 PM | message detail |
Bayonetta,
more like Bloodrayne. Bayonetta would be uber-fodder. I'm talking
Jade-level fodder. Not that it matters since she'll never be in a
contest. Anyway, Roxas Vault Boy Little Mac Nathan Drake Claptrap Maxwell Ragna Jack Frost Eddie Riggs --- Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 4:19:54 PM | message detail |
Hell
no, Bayonetta is likely to be, at the least, Razputin-level fodder, and
possibly a low to mid-carder. Not a Dante, for sure, but let's not
disrespect her that much. Her game doesn't have nearly enough JAPAN!!
for that. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
voltch | Posted 10/27/2009 4:20:33 PM | message detail |
BloodRayne? Man that is HARSH, i mean who the hell even plays that game? You just seem to have it in against female characters if your thinking she'll be that bad. --- Shakes Fist! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2009 4:33:47 PM | message detail |
Bayonetta
is the next Dante I now firmly believe (my belief is not the only firm
thing around here, not when talking about Bayonetta). --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/27/2009 4:35:04 PM | message detail |
Eddie Riggs > Bayonetta --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/27/2009 4:38:10 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 10/27/2009 5:33:47 PM | #271 har har --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2009 7:17:23 PM | message detail |
Dante
would be a huge leap, but I think Bayonetta could become our strongest
non-Nintendo, non-Square female. That would put her ahead of... Jill, I
think. Maybe Chun-Li...either way, they're not so far apart. I'm wanting to side with yo, but I've not really seen or heard about her in awhile other than the 40/40...which is great to have in your corner, but it's not like LoZ:WW or FF12 are powerhouses or beloved here either, and they're from our two biggest series. Fortunately, series =/= games =/= characters, but I'll still want to see how it sells here and how gamers receive her first. --- Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!): T E A M C H O C O L A T E |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 10/27/2009 7:23:57 PM | message detail |
Oh, Bayonetta got a 40/40? I'll put her at the same level as an Nintendog. That sold amazingly well, too, so between those an Nintendog would be the same level as Vaan! Alright, I'll be generous and give the Bloodrayne wannabe a ceiling of Balthier. --- Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him. |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2009 8:40:36 PM | message detail |
Nintendogs
was never aimed for the kind of gamers GameFAQs attracts, too.
Bayonetta should be much closer to our audience than that. --- Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!): T E A M C H O C O L A T E |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 10/28/2009 6:27:02 AM | message detail |
Like FF12, right? Dante would get 80% on Bayonetta. --- Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/28/2009 6:33:27 AM | message detail |
More, actually. Give This Party Gettin' Crazy Man some respect, he'd probably get 70% normally, before factoring SFF. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2009 7:49:30 AM | message detail |
I already dissed FF12, don't throw that back on me! Haha, like I said, I wanna see sales and reception before I spend much time discussing her. I'm with yo in that she could become a new big player from this generation, but she's gotta prove she can bring the goods with more than a Japanese review score when we barely give a damn about what American/GameFAQs review scores are. GTA4 and SMG are examples of that, and they're also from established series. --- Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!): T E A M C H O C O L A T E |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/28/2009 7:54:00 AM | message detail |
She looks like Sarah Palin, which ruins any chance at her being strong. And yes, I do think this site is that petty. Still want that game, though. I'm a huge fan of Hideki Kamiya. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ This was a triumph. |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2009 8:01:52 AM | message detail |
Your argument is flawed -- people still like Tina Fey. --- Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!): T E A M C H O C O L A T E |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/28/2009 8:10:00 AM | message detail |
Why is this the first I've heard about such game? Now that I've read about it 2009 must have been a bad year for gaming if people are jumping at anything that looks okay. Just because it looks like a certain game that is popular doesn't mean it will be as popular. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/28/2009 8:13:16 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #282 it got 40/40 from fumitsu is part of the reason I think --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/28/2009 8:23:34 AM | message detail |
40/40
isn't that same as it use to be and for all we know that game could be
a hit in that market and still flop in North America. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/28/2009 8:25:28 AM | message detail |
Plus its a game made by the guy who created Devil May Cry and its supposedly Devil May Cry where you play as Sarah Palin --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
ZFS | Posted 10/28/2009 8:30:25 AM | message detail |
Bayonetta
isn't going to sell a million copies in the States. Sega made the right
move to push it into January instead of the holidays, but the game is
so very Japanese that you're not going to see much of an American
audience showing interest, unless it gets some real marketing. That
said, Japanese action games in general don't tend to sell all that well
in America anyway. Bayonetta should do fine in a contest if she makes
it in - she has a lot of the same appeal as Dante, and his games are
fodder zone around here. --- the journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/28/2009 8:49:09 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/modules/poll_results.php?poll_id=462571&poll_action=vote&choice_id=4&token=51c3e254633bf66a191825f2c0afd3f7&chksum=1579c0f61105a0ae7ad09d78333ac984&tag=poll;vote;4&popup=1 Btw, a nice little comparison of Gamefaqs vs Gamespot taste, after we saw the Gamefaqs poll. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/28/2009 8:54:09 AM | message detail |
Is this a new poll because the vote totals are terrible. Nothing too surprising. GameFAQs hates non-Mario Kart racing games and GTA's performance could be higher than it should be because there is no none option and people want to vote for something. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/28/2009 8:55:55 AM | message detail |
yeah poll came up a few hours ago i think --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2009 9:08:46 AM | message detail |
One thing remains: people still hate rap. open your mind people --- Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!): T E A M C H O C O L A T E |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/28/2009 9:41:59 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #290 All the innovators left and the horrible ones had years to ravage the genre, HaR. Hard to shake that reputation off, it's like trying to like prog rock after six or eight years of different versions of Tales From The Topographic Oceans. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 10/28/2009 10:21:17 AM | message detail |
Poll would be better if Petz were beating DJ Hero imho --- Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him. |
voltch | Posted 10/28/2009 12:42:54 PM | message detail |
it honestly doesn't matter if the game doesn't sell millions as long as thew few people who like it are from Gfaqs. I mean how else would a late ps2 game like Persona 4 TIE with Street Fighter IV! But I'm sure she'll do better than say Jin. Now if only the Yakuza franchise mad a move on the US, i wanna see if we're going to get something like Ryo Hazuki,weak but roughly on the VFL. --- Shakes Fist! |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2009 12:45:52 PM | message detail |
Hadn't heard VFL in awhile! --- Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!): T E A M C H O C O L A T E |
voltch | Posted 10/28/2009 12:55:31 PM | message detail |
how else do you distinguish the veterans from the newbs? --- Shakes Fist! |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/29/2009 4:14:39 AM | message detail |
We
don't mention the VFL because it's about as relevant as SoA at this
point. Vyse would get crushed by people who could get 20% on BL now.
Not that we actually have a clue what Link would get on BL any more. *sigh* --- Anyway, crushed. |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/29/2009 5:22:59 AM | message detail |
Besides isn't Kefka the new VFL? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
Big Bob | Posted 10/29/2009 8:50:11 AM | message detail |
A
while ago I remember somebody suggested that Pac-Man's the fodder line.
Doesn't help when making stats, but honestly, if you can't beat
Pac-Man, you're fodder. --- Ragna the Bloodedge... YOU'RE STUPID! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/29/2009 8:53:50 AM | message detail |
ness = fodder then --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://geekadelphia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/the_guild_cast.jpg |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 10/29/2009 8:54:28 AM | message detail |
From: Big Bob | #298 Too bad you can't apply this to Gamespot, where Kirby and Dante would be fodder. --- Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him. |
