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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/7/2009 5:36:28 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #449
500k would be fine for an action game. That's about what Ninja Gaiden 2 did.


well yeah, but I don't think its enough to really set the world on fire or anything like some Bayonetta fans are saying.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/7/2009 5:36:56 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #450
In that case why is wesker so weak?
The RE franchise is big in the industry, the gamers know about him, his design screams cool, and hje flops hard, had he faced virgil; in the villains contest, I'd have been tempted to side with the DMC villain.


because people only care about the RE game he wasnt in
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ZFS | Posted 11/7/2009 5:37:55 PM | message detail
I don't think anyone has said she's going to be a top tier character. The strongest new character, probably; stronger than Altair wouldn't be surprising in the least. Stronger than Kratos or Dante, though? Nah - but no one reasonable would expect that.

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voltch | Posted 11/7/2009 5:38:39 PM | message detail
you know, no one is saying Bayonetta is going to challenge Leon Kennedy or Sora, but she's bound to be far stronger than kerrigan level or any Modern Warfare character will ever be.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/7/2009 5:39:54 PM | message detail
If Lightning is eligible, she'd beat her. I'm interested if she is though, cuz by the time noms are open, FFXIII may be out in Japan
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voltch | Posted 11/7/2009 5:41:45 PM | message detail
uh, just about everyone acknowledges Snow and Lightning will be likely to be the strongest FF characters since X.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/7/2009 5:42:29 PM | message detail
There'd be something wrong if they werent stronger then Vaan and Balthier.
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voltch | Posted 11/7/2009 5:43:50 PM | message detail
did you miss the hype Balthier got when he was in the field?
everyone disliked vaan sure, but Balthier was expected to the auron of the series, at least rikku level, so him flopping was an actual surprise.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/7/2009 5:44:34 PM | message detail
Hype =/= actual strength
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voltch | Posted 11/7/2009 5:46:37 PM | message detail
? the hell you on about? your repeating me now? just said he was expected to do better than he did and he didn't now your just stating the obvious?

w/e blahblahblah.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/7/2009 5:48:15 PM | message detail
You said they will be the strongest FF characters since FFX, I agreed, and then you argued with me that Balthier was hyped to be stronger or something, which makes no sense for the point of conversation since hype doesnt mean he was strong.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/7/2009 10:02:12 PM | message detail
I don't think we'll ever see another FF game that will give us strong characters. FF13's characters should do much better than FF12's, but I'm not ready to pick Lightning over Tidus.

It is true that Bayonetta pretty much has to rely on her character design for strength. Unfortunately, all I hear concerning her are comparisons to Sarah Palin and "she's hot." You know who else is designed to be hot? Lara Croft.

Strongest new character? Maybe, if only because the field is so damn miserable. There's what, Maxwell, MW2 fodder, and uh... I can't even think of anything else. Just saying that the field is so nonexistent that Bayonetta could be uber-fodder and still be the strongest new character. That's not something worth bragging about when we've had few notable characters.

Oh yeah, the chick from RE5. She'd be weak, but I'll still pick her. I don't even remember her name, but she could probably double Sarah Palin.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/7/2009 10:13:31 PM | message detail
Wait, Maxwell? Doesn't ring a bell.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/7/2009 10:18:33 PM | message detail
Maxwell is from Scribblenauts.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/7/2009 10:24:03 PM | message detail
Flop or not, Bayonetta would be a great character to rally in. As others have said, the only character she'd have to beat to be the strongest of this generation (before FFXIII hits) is Altair, and he's probably a lot weaker now than he was 12 months ago if we take the Marcus Phoenix effect to mean anything. Bayonetta will never get the sales of Assassin's Creed, but good word of mouth and a devoted fanbase can put her above Altair.

As HM said, though, no one is really expecting her to be the next Dante or Kratos. That's overreaching bigtime.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/7/2009 10:38:38 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 11/7/2009 10:13:31 PM | #463
Wait, Maxwell? Doesn't ring a bell.


I think that says it all here.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/7/2009 10:59:00 PM | message detail
When I see the name "Maxwell", I think of What What In the Butt.

So yeah, no idea what game he's from.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/7/2009 11:25:51 PM | message detail
Ah, Scribblenauts...well Phoenix is the only other handheld-only character I can think of right now, and he doesn't do that well despite having three games. Maxwell should bomb unless he has a special reason to be better-liked than Phoenix.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/8/2009 7:19:34 AM | message detail
Maxwell would probably be uber-fodder.

I'd still pick Altair over Bayonetta. His character design should be enough to let him keep some strength, assuming people care enough to nominate him in. If we go back to 64 characters, neither will probably make it.

I'd seriously want to see Vault Boy in this. Fallout 3's the third-strongest game here from this gen, and the top two don't really have any new characters worth nominating. I think he could surprise a few people strength-wise, and might even be above the fodder line.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 8:06:36 AM | message detail
Vault Boy is a character that we HAVE to get in, no question.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2009 10:12:02 AM | message detail
How recognizable is the name? For example if I went to a random person that has played Fallout 3 and talk about Vault Boy would they know what I mean or do I have to show them a picture?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 10:13:36 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #471
How recognizable is the name? For example if I went to a random person that has played Fallout 3 and talk about Vault Boy would they know what I mean or do I have to show them a picture?


he's the icon for the game essentially. Everyone whos played it would know him. He's everywhere
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2009 10:20:09 AM | message detail
Yeah I just did a quick search of him I can see him being our strongest character excluding those that come from series that already have representation from the past.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 10:32:57 AM | message detail
Fallout 3's the third-strongest game here from this gen,

SSBB, MGS4, LoZ:TP. Fourth strongest, just to be technical about it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2009 10:34:25 AM | message detail
MW2 could also sneak in there
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 10:43:34 AM | message detail
I wanted to say that, but time will tell. We'll have to see some polls on it first.

Come on, Game of the Decade/Century poll.....
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 10:47:47 AM | message detail
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 10:48:34 AM | message detail
I don't count TP as this generation, since it was made for GC and released for it. It would be like counting RE4 as a current gen game cuz it was released on GC then Wii
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2009 10:50:54 AM | message detail
Wasn't TP released on the Wii first?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 10:51:41 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #479
Wasn't TP released on the Wii first?


I thought it was same day. -shrugs- Regardless, it was a last gen game released on both systems. You could have same experience if you dont have a next gen system, which makes it not a next gen game to me.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2009 10:53:18 AM | message detail
That's like calling all of the Madden games last gen because it was released on the PS2.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 10:54:13 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #481
That's like calling all of the Madden games last gen because it was released on the PS2.


Note I said "Same experience"

The Madden games are made by a different development team for PS2 and watered down respectively.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 10:59:08 AM | message detail
Considering both versions came out once the Wii came out, the Wii-version sold more than the GC-version, and the Wii-version was a driving reason to buy a Wii...I think that's just being picky to help make FO3 sound more impressive. For all intents and purposes, LoZ:TP is a next-generation game.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 10:59:36 AM | message detail
Heres another example. Budokai tenkaichi 3 released same day on both PS2 and Wii as the exact same game. would you call that a next gen game?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 11:00:28 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #483
Considering both versions came out once the Wii came out, the Wii-version sold more than the GC-version, and the Wii-version was a driving reason to buy a Wii...I think that's just being picky to help make FO3 sound more impressive. For all intents and purposes, LoZ:TP is a next-generation game.


Its a game that uses the Gamecube specs, and is gettable if you dont have a next gen system. Thus, not a next gen game.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 11:03:08 AM | message detail
First of all, what the heck is BT3?

Second, is it better known for its PS2 or Wii version? And did it use the Wii motion-controls at all or simply make a straight port? If it's better known as a Wii-game and tried to embrace something big introduced this generation, then why not?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 11:03:57 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #486
First of all, what the heck is BT3?

Second, is it better known for its PS2 or Wii version? And did it use the Wii motion-controls at all or simply make a straight port? If it's better known as a Wii-game and tried to embrace something big introduced this generation, then why not?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/home/939645.html

It uses wii motion controls but its made for PS2 and ported to Wii. same thing as TP
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voltch | Posted 11/8/2009 11:08:04 AM | message detail
BT3?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 11:09:11 AM | message detail

From: voltch | #488
BT3?


Its just first game that came to midn that released around same time on both systems, and nobody would call that a next gen game
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 11:12:26 AM | message detail
Its a game that uses the Gamecube specs, and is gettable if you dont have a next gen system. Thus, not a next gen game.

The Wii-version also has Wii-controls that can't be replicated by any other system right now, too, so don't discount it just because of the graphics. It may have started off in production as a Gamecube-game, but it uses next-gen technology in its more popular version and people definitely associate it with the Wii more than the Gamecube. It's not even a port that came later to embrace the controls like RE4 (or BT3) did -- they were simultaneous, Nintendo waited on releasing both versions until the Wii was released, and the Wii-version won out. It and Wii Sports carried the Wii for its first year. Why insist it's a game from last generation in that regard?
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 11:14:20 AM | message detail
Why insist it's a game from last generation in that regard?

Because its a game on a last gen system. Lets just agree to disagree though, cuz neither of us are going to change eachothers minds.
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ZFS | Posted 11/8/2009 11:14:57 AM | message detail
Albion is being Albion again I see

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 11:19:04 AM | message detail
Agreed to disagree.

Anyway, back to the original point, FO3 is a strong game from this generation, but I get that Vault Boy is just an avatar for the game. Why should it do any better than, say, Axel Steel aside from FO3 > GH?
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/8/2009 11:29:08 AM | message detail
How strong would Drebin (MGS4) be, you guys think?

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ZFS | Posted 11/8/2009 11:32:24 AM | message detail
Not very. Characters like Ocelot struggle to be even decent, Drebin won't ever make one of these contests.

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/8/2009 2:05:14 PM | message detail
So who would be the strongest MGS-character we haven't seen yet?

Besides Solidus Snake. That's just not fair.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 11/8/2009 2:07:31 PM | message detail
otacon
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voltch | Posted 11/8/2009 2:22:52 PM | message detail
Otacon, Meryl, Fox, Campbell and Johnny, hmmm i'd say Otacon would be gordon freeman light.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/8/2009 6:12:20 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #493
Agreed to disagree.

Anyway, back to the original point, FO3 is a strong game from this generation, but I get that Vault Boy is just an avatar for the game. Why should it do any better than, say, Axel Steel aside from FO3 > GH?


Vault Boy's much more iconic of Fallout 3 and the Fallout series in general than generic avatar Axel Steel, Vault Boy is much more recognizable than Axel Steel by the GameFAQs audience, Vault Boy is completely plastered all over Fallout 3, even in the menus, compared to Axel Steel who even GH vets probably don't really remember about, and even just general character design appeal and a gimmicky appeal that might get a stray joke vote or two.

Vault Boy has a lot of potential.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 11/8/2009 6:12:49 PM | message detail
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