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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 754

LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/21/2009 7:48:04 PM | message detail
A round 1 match featuring 3 noble niners???!!! WTF???!!!

And yes, the last division is very lol-worthy. Going by the x-stats it seems that God of War is insanely strong given its first round loss...which fits right into Kratos being a potential top 40 or so. So how did GoW become popular on this site in the first place? It doesn't exactly look like the sort of thing that GameFAQs would care about...save for the fact that it's a Zelda-esque action adventure...but then you'd expect Ico and Eternal Darkness to have made the main bracket (Paper Mario should've been replaced with Eternal Darkness, that way I'd feel a bit better about Metroid Prime's first round loss, and if Ico was in Paper Mario's position it could've hurt the PS2 options enough to allow Prime through, but eh), and Shadow of the Colossus to at least get closer to RE4 (though I guess SotC being a Zelda-esque adventure explains why it was able to defeat a TPS that this site doesn't care for at all).

Also according to the x-stats it seems that Yoshi's Island is the fodder line.
red sox 777 | Posted 8/21/2009 8:10:49 PM | message detail
It may be the second most overused argument of the past 4 years (first is characters dampening other characters' trends in 4-ways), but when we're dealing with a full extrapolated standings list generated from 4-way polls, it becomes highly relevant:

LOL X-STATS
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/21/2009 8:43:06 PM | message detail
I'll agree, though I do enjoy looking over earnest attempts at trying to organize the mess that is four-way stats.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 8:47:54 PM | message detail
So how did GoW become popular on this site in the first place?

2005 being a crappy year for gaming besides Resident Evil 4. Also I see people comparing Kratos as the next Dante for GameFAQs.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 8:49:51 PM | message detail
I mean take a look at these polls.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2253
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254

A handheld game should not make the final vote for the goty.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 9:03:13 PM | message detail
I wonder which game will be released first on today's poll.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/21/2009 9:09:29 PM | message detail
Big Boss
Link
Mario
Samus

Donkey Kong
L-Block
Pac-Man
Pit


Wow. L-Block may have an extremely easy round 1 match there, with Donkey Kong being a choker and Pit being too weak here. But in round 2, L-Block could still move on here if Link banishes Mario to the depths of hell using his SFFing abilities. Last contest, the only way for L-Block to make it to the finals was to take down Pikachu in round 3 and then cruise past Crono/Vincent in round 4 (much harder task). After that, L-Block should have an easy path to the finals as Link/Mario/Samus is waiting in round 5.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/21/2009 9:10:09 PM | message detail
A handheld game should not make the final vote for the goty.

Why not?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 9:14:39 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 9:16:33 PM | message detail
Wow. L-Block may have an extremely easy round 1 match there, with Donkey Kong being a choker and Pit being too weak here. But in round 2, L-Block could still move on here if Link banishes Mario to the depths of hell using his SFFing abilities.

Actually what I was trying to do here was to get people to pull the Link > Big Boss trigger. Zack almost did it with Mega Man X and if he gets his Naked Snake picture...

As for the handheld comment it's more that the amount of quality games on handhelds is lower than the ones on console. Also as much as I love Mario Kart games they aren't exactly goty worthy.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/21/2009 9:23:47 PM | message detail
Actually what I was trying to do here was to get people to pull the Link > Big Boss trigger. Zack almost did it with Mega Man X and if he gets his Naked Snake picture...

Big Boss is a tricky one when it comes to filling out a bracket, because you don't know in which round of the contest he will get his Naked Snake picture.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/22/2009 5:52:25 AM | message detail
Today's poll suggests Diablo 2 > Starcraft > World of Warcraft, pretty cleanly. Interesting.....
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/22/2009 6:31:12 AM | message detail
No it doesn't.

It's not that surprising that Diablo III is winning, we have the most information about that game.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/22/2009 8:10:21 AM | message detail
I mean take a look at these polls.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2253
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254

A handheld game should not make the final vote for the goty.


Will you still say this after Scribblenauts wins the 2009 GotY?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/22/2009 8:23:19 AM | message detail
Will you still say this after Scribblenauts wins the 2009 GotY?

Scribblenauts may be a funny quirky game, but if that game comes anywhere near winning that would say more about this year being a terrible year for gaming than Scribblenauts being a godly game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/22/2009 9:16:00 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #212
Today's poll suggests Diablo 2 > Starcraft > World of Warcraft, pretty cleanly. Interesting.....


Its pretty unfair to compare 2 games that have been hyped a while compared to an expansion pack of a game.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/22/2009 2:55:00 PM | message detail
Handheld games can be popular. Look at Pokemon. FFTA did really well as well. I don't know why Mario Kart doing so well in that poll meant anything about the year's selection of games. Mario Kart is popular. Look at how well both of its games did in the past contest.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/22/2009 6:42:16 PM | message detail
Handheld games can be popular. Look at Pokemon. FFTA did really well as well. I don't know why Mario Kart doing so well in that poll meant anything about the year's selection of games. Mario Kart is popular. Look at how well both of its games did in the past contest.

GotY is different than contest strength. You don't need to look much further than comparing 2008 GotY to the games contest. People seem to have a different criteria for GotY than voting for their favourite games in a contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2009 6:55:35 PM | message detail
FFTA did well against another handheld game...
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/22/2009 6:59:29 PM | message detail
That too, if you're going to bring up a handheld game bring up Link's Awakening.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2009 7:06:10 PM | message detail
Well, there are obvious reasons why a Zelda handheld and an FF handheld are going to do better than your average handheld game anyway. Not to take anything away from them 'cause LA is legit, but still.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/22/2009 7:13:02 PM | message detail
rby imho
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Yesmar | Posted 8/22/2009 10:19:47 PM | message detail
FFTA did well against another handheld game...

And against a much more popular game in its own series.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/23/2009 4:32:13 AM | message detail
FFTA's performance still seems pretty amazing. I wonder how well FFT have done against FFX.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/23/2009 6:47:21 AM | message detail
rby imho

Good luck trying to win 1998 goty.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/23/2009 11:35:35 AM | message detail

From: Yesmar | #223
FFTA did well against another handheld game...

And against a much more popular game in its own series.


Getting doubled is never impressive, no matter how you slice it. That was FFX doing poorly more than it was FFTA doing well.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2009 2:02:54 PM | message detail
It's sad but true: handhelds very typically don't stand up to consoles. Yes, RBY rocked the house this year and has an outside chance (that I would gamble on, but still) of being the site's #3 game...but the rest of the top ten (including #1 and #2) are console games. Consider the other noteworthy handheld games that didn't have a big series name behind it; MM2 made Tetris look more impressive than it really was (not to mention Tetris has been everywhere), FE would do well to beat Disgaea without being double-SFF'd after being doubled by FFTA in 2004, and PW:AA never stood a chance.

The handhelds from a big series surprised most of us, granted, but their names helped carry them and we had good reason to be surprised by handhelds. Look at how many console games made it into BGE1 and BGE2 compared to handheld games. Compare how handhelds compare to consoles in the system-GotY polls every year. MK:DS is the only handheld game to even make it to the final-GotY, and it's been accepted for a long time that RE4 carried 2005 through a gaming drought. Besides various Pokemon, how many handheld-originated characters do we see? How about handheld-exclusive characters? Handhelds never get as much attention as consoles at E3 or anywhere else in the gaming community, either...


...I mean, the handhelds just don't compete. Don't be fooled by the exceptions; we almost exclusively see the exceptions in a contest setting and we regularly see their best reps trounced in the overall-GotY polls...and it's no coincidence many of those same reps got big off of the name of a series that hit it big on consoles first. Handhelds clearly don't get the same respect as consoles, and that's passed down to their games' popularity in most cases whether it's justified or not.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/23/2009 2:30:00 PM | message detail
RBY can very well be considered an exception. It's as much a cultural phenomenon as a handheld video game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 3:06:35 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #227
It's sad but true: handhelds very typically don't stand up to consoles. Yes, RBY rocked the house this year and has an outside chance (that I would gamble on, but still) of being the site's #3 game...but the rest of the top ten (including #1 and #2) are console games. Consider the other noteworthy handheld games that didn't have a big series name behind it; MM2 made Tetris look more impressive than it really was (not to mention Tetris has been everywhere), FE would do well to beat Disgaea without being double-SFF'd after being doubled by FFTA in 2004, and PW:AA never stood a chance.

The handhelds from a big series surprised most of us, granted, but their names helped carry them and we had good reason to be surprised by handhelds. Look at how many console games made it into BGE1 and BGE2 compared to handheld games. Compare how handhelds compare to consoles in the system-GotY polls every year. MK:DS is the only handheld game to even make it to the final-GotY, and it's been accepted for a long time that RE4 carried 2005 through a gaming drought. Besides various Pokemon, how many handheld-originated characters do we see? How about handheld-exclusive characters? Handhelds never get as much attention as consoles at E3 or anywhere else in the gaming community, either...


...I mean, the handhelds just don't compete. Don't be fooled by the exceptions; we almost exclusively see the exceptions in a contest setting and we regularly see their best reps trounced in the overall-GotY polls...and it's no coincidence many of those same reps got big off of the name of a series that hit it big on consoles first. Handhelds clearly don't get the same respect as consoles, and that's passed down to their games' popularity in most cases whether it's justified or not.


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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 3:07:11 PM | message detail
though, wasnt tetris handheld first iirc? So we had a character originating from handheld winning best character contest
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redrocket | Posted 8/23/2009 3:09:38 PM | message detail
Tetris was not handheld first.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 3:10:20 PM | message detail
Oh, well I dont keep up with all those old nintendo games. I just know the Gameboy one was the biggest and best selling version
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/23/2009 8:09:17 PM | message detail
Tetris was on the PC first.

And yeah, Pokemon RBY is most definetely an exception; I wouldn't even mind that darn thing beating Ocarina! Aside from that though there's just much else; I'd probably vote for Pokemon GS or Link's Awakening over a weakish console game like Perfect Dark (okay sorry NGamer) or a Dragon Quest game, or a Smash game (time to piss the fanboys), or a non-blockbuster Final Fantasy (time to piss off more fanboys, 'cuz this means I'd vote for Pokemon GS over every FF aside from VI and VII) but really, aside from that, you wouldn't usually feel good voting for a handheld game over a console title.

Since when was 2005 a gaming drought? Even in our contest, RE4 finished in the top 20 of the x-stats, possibly being more popular here than it is on a good number of other sites (well, that suggest that RE4 loses to Super Mario Galaxy and BioShock and Halo, forget it). Also in the x-stats God of War finished higher than Majora's Mask/Wind Waker/Link's Awakening, on ZeldaFAQs no less (for me I'd probably go Wind Waker > Majora's Mask > God of War > Twilight Princess). Also Guitar Hero placed 5th on Entertainment Weekly's list (okay, that list had Super Mario Galaxy ahead of Final Fantasy VII but still outside of the top ten and Doom in the top 5, forget it) and 11th on Stuff Magazine's list (oh wait, that list had Doom and GTAIII in the top ten, not to mention Guitar Hero > Halo > Gran Turismo 3 > Quake III > A Link to the Past > Super Mario 64). Shadow of the Colossus and God of War regularly do well on lists as well. So HOW was 2005 a drought? That's not accounting for Ninja Gaiden Black and Civilization IV being popular elsewhere.

Finally, a look at the x-stats...apparently Final Fantasy VI, SUPER MARIO BROS., and GoldenEye would've ended with a last place finish if any of the three were in Half-Life 2's spot. Utter madness, I tell you.
charmander6000 | Posted 8/23/2009 8:23:33 PM | message detail
Since when was 2005 a gaming drought? Even in our contest, RE4 finished in the top 20 of the x-stats

Resident Evil 4 is considered to have single handily saved the year from being considered the worst year since after the videogame crash. Sure other games were released, but are they memberable because they were great or was it because they were released in 2005 and people were itching to find something to play with. I mean if they were released in 2004 would they still be as memorable to us?

Not to say that they aren't great, but games such as Shadow of the Colossus had great timing. Guitar Hero wasn't popular at first and took a while to build. God of War could survive 2004 though it would still fare fine if it was released in 2006 (ignoring the fact that the generation was coming to an end). Devil May Cry 3 was nothing special and Soul Calibur III flopped compare to some people's expectations.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/23/2009 8:38:00 PM | message detail
Handheld games don't do as well, because the games that come out for them are simply less popular, and would be less popular no matter what console they were released on. It's not like GameFAQS goes "Ew, a handheld, I'm not voting for this/not taking it seriously." It's coincidence, not correlation.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 8:39:52 PM | message detail
who needed games in 2005 when WoW was so fresh then tbh
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2009 9:03:32 PM | message detail
Yeah, this poll's not gonna be too kind to the Wii.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/23/2009 9:07:55 PM | message detail
who needed games in 2005 when WoW was so fresh then tbh

Well end of October of 2004 to beginning of Janurary of 2005 gave us

World of Warcraft
Metroid Prime 2
Halo 2
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Half-Life 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
Resident Evil 4

Plus the DS was released. That was an epic stretch of 3 months that let us weather 2005 and part of 2006 a bit better.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/23/2009 9:08:47 PM | message detail
In yesterday's poll, only Europe preferred cats over dogs. No one ever mentioned that poll yet, especially because I've always wanted to know how the Cats vs. Dogs war turns out.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 9:09:38 PM | message detail
pc being so high shows how bad the console releases have been recently
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/23/2009 9:11:53 PM | message detail
It's sad, but true.

I'm hoping Scribblenauts will be another exception, though! I'm not counting on Maxwell to win any contests or anything (hell, I think he'd be lucky to break 10% in a match!) but I wouldn't be surprised to see Scribblenauts do well in GotY. I mean, other than MW2 and RE5 (both of which will be facing off in the Multiplatform poll anyway), what competition will it have? Infamous?

I won't be surprised if Scribblenauts makes the Final GotY poll, though granted more because of it being a weak year for games than because of Scribblenauts being a GameFAQs favorite. The game has hype, and if it sticks, it should have enough momentum to bypass some weak competition. And hell, with backlash against RE5 and now Activision, who knows what will happen?

So I wouldn't be shocked if the circumstances let Scribblenauts overperform in the GotY polls.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/23/2009 9:13:03 PM | message detail
I bet some people answered PC and didn't even play a PC game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 9:15:20 PM | message detail
PC was my answer due to WoW, Fallout 2, and Sims 3 this last month
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 9:16:53 PM | message detail
and PS2 is gonna beat Wii it seems

how sad is it that Wii is outplayed by last gen systems
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/23/2009 9:20:20 PM | message detail
how sad is it that Wii is outplayed by last gen systems

If the goty were to be held right now Punch-Out would win (maybe Wii Sport Resort). The PS2 at least has a great library to work with.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/23/2009 9:20:34 PM | message detail
I would've voted DS if mine wasn't busted. I spend a lot of downtime on it.

360 got my vote thanks to Mass Effect. Solid game except for that damn Mako.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2009 9:21:51 PM | message detail
I voted PC because of Braid...I just can't leave that game alone.
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redrocket | Posted 8/23/2009 9:22:00 PM | message detail
PC was my answer due to WoW, Fallout 2, and Sims 3 this last month

I thought you hate Fallout 2?

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2009 9:23:03 PM | message detail

From: redrocket | #248
PC was my answer due to WoW, Fallout 2, and Sims 3 this last month

I thought you hate Fallout 2?


My first impression was I hated it. Once I got over it wasn't the same as Fallout 3, I learned to enjoy its charm.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2009 9:23:34 PM | message detail
I am interested to see how PO/WSR do in the Wii-GotY this year...before they're both inevitably destroyed in the overall-GotY. How has WSR been received? I imagine it's sold well so far.
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