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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 754

LeonhartFour | Posted 8/18/2009 2:17:44 PM | message detail
Hmmm...I don't know how much our tastes coincide, so I can't tell if that's a good contest overall or not!
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 2:19:10 PM | message detail
A contest with no Crono is a bad contest, and I say that as the kind of person who think 2k4 housed The Worst Result Ever.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 2:20:05 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #151
Hmmm...I don't know how much our tastes coincide, so I can't tell if that's a good contest overall or not!


well, heres an example of their voting:

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks;title;1

Drake nearly doubles Kirby

Take that as you will
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 2:40:13 PM | message detail
...Based on what? An absolutely meaningless overperformance in the finals?

I've cited Solid/Cloud's R4 in 2008 and Mario/Seph's R3 in 2007 several times for saying why he probably beats Mario. Solid being able to bandwagon the way he did after the level of importance he's had since 2006 is just a scary x-factor in his favor.


MC should be quite strong over there, too -- there's a reason why people constantly predict MC to go far every year here, and it's because he's very popular outside of here. I'm not convinced he's gonna win it all, but he's gonna do very well.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 2:43:30 PM | message detail
Oh, and Albion, keep in mind that's a 24-way poll that's also featuring Yoshi. I agree it's a huge shift from GameFAQs, but it's not as fair of a comparison as one would like either.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 2:43:52 PM | message detail
Heh, I see a lot of us are going over to that forum for the Gamespot character battle

I wonder if its almost gonna turn into our second home!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 2:44:45 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #155
Oh, and Albion, keep in mind that's a 24-way poll that's also featuring Yoshi. I agree it's a huge shift from GameFAQs, but it's not as fair of a comparison as one would like either.


Eh, when you have 24 characters, there is so much SFF I don't know what to really believe are the strongest characters. Whoever has the most loyal fans do the best really
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 2:53:10 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman to win it all = CONFIRMED. The dude's fanbase never abandons him.
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/18/2009 6:19:33 PM | message detail
Solid being able to bandwagon the way he did after the level of importance he's had since 2006 is just a scary x-factor in his favor.

Bandwagoning is based on voter perception. It has little to do with actual strength (though you need SOME strength to get one). It's why Kirby can get a big enough bandwagon to beat Sonic despite only beating the likes of Big Boss, Dante, Master Chief, and Leon Kennedy. Strong characters, sure, but it's not like Kirby winning is something that shocked the board.

I've cited Solid/Cloud's R4 in 2008 and Mario/Seph's R3 in 2007 several times for saying why he probably beats Mario.

43.14% for Snake vs. 43.35% for Mario with Fox McCloud (and no, Big Boss doesn't hurt Sephiroth worse than Fox hurts Mario, no matter what you want to say). Not convinced.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:00:09 PM | message detail
Fox also got like 9% on that poll so even if he did hurt Mario it wasn't that much.

Also excluding SFF what do you expect Cloud to get in a Cloud/Sephiroth match?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:01:11 PM | message detail
I wonder if its almost gonna turn into our second home!

Probably not, I'll probably abandon the contest half-way through if a bracket is released here.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:02:17 PM | message detail
I'm worried about that contest, though. C-net owns both sites, so maybe they won't run 'em at the same time to compete with eachother
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:07:32 PM | message detail
I'm not even sure if the contest will be posted on the front page. The site doesn't have a poll of the day and to fit one in would need a rearranging of the front page.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:10:11 PM | message detail
It does have polls sometimes, but you gotta drag the site down a bit to see it. They typically have polls that last a couple days over big video game events or news. They dont have one atm though

But I'm guessing they are gonna put these matches there. But it won't be visible when you first load up the page since you need to drag the window down, so it'll hurt votals
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:13:15 PM | message detail
Reminds me of the second half of SpC2k4 and SC2k4.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/18/2009 8:26:56 PM | message detail
Fox also got like 9% on that poll so even if he did hurt Mario it wasn't that much.

It still affects the result.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 10:00:35 PM | message detail
It was sprite-Mario VS sprite-Fox with Sephiroth as well...I really doubt Fox-fans that hardcore switch en masse to Mario; the Fox-fans who would have voted for Mario > Sephiroth probably already did vote for Mario. Also, one could argue Mewtwo hurt Solid Snake if we want to go the route of Solid being bothered by Nintendo.

Either way, they both probably had minimal affect on Mario/Solid and Cloud's got a decent spread on Sephiroth. Mario/Solid is obviously still a close match, but our four-way contests and recent trends point to Solid likely having the edge.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/18/2009 10:09:06 PM | message detail
It was sprite-Mario VS sprite-Fox with Sephiroth as well...I really doubt Fox-fans that hardcore switch en masse to Mario; the Fox-fans who would have voted for Mario > Sephiroth probably already did vote for Mario.

It's easy to rationalize it that way, but that's generally not how LFF works. I don't see any reason to believe the effect was minimal. I mean, we still believe that Vaan probably cost Rikku that match against Knuckles despite the fact that he got about the same amount Fox did. The fact that Fox's percentage was small, he had his sprite, or whatever, still doesn't change the fact that the result was altered and we have no idea to what extent, so it can't be regarded as conclusive.

Also, one could argue Mewtwo hurt Solid Snake if we want to go the route of Solid being bothered by Nintendo.

It's a pretty weak argument, but sure, I guess you could. We've still yet to see conclusive evidence that Snake is bothered by Nintendo (No, Samus/Snake 2006 isn't conclusive evidence).

Cloud's got a decent spread on Sephiroth.

Based on their matches with Link in 2005, it's 53/47, which is about the gap between Link and Cloud. A clear victory, but not a huge spread. Don't get me wrong, I'd probably pick Snake over Mario myself, but I don't see any really solid evidence for him being clearly stronger.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/18/2009 10:14:39 PM | message detail
Also, for whatever the reason, Super Mario World won big time in South America and Brazil yesterday. Was the NES not released there or something?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 11:15:01 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 11:15:41 PM | message detail
"The Nintendo Entertainment System (abbreviated to NESd[›] or Nintendo) is an 8-bit video game console that was released by Nintendo in North America, Europe and Australia in 1985. In most of Asia, including Japan (where it was first launched in 1983), the Philippines, China, Vietnam and Singapore, it was released as the Family Computer, also known as the Famicom. In Southern Asia (such as India), it was known as the Tata Famicom. It was succeeded by the Super Nintendo Entertainment System."

From wiki... doesnt say it was released in South America
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voltch | Posted 8/19/2009 1:41:42 AM | message detail
hmmm,europe's result weren't too different from the final result either.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/19/2009 1:55:25 AM | message detail
Also, for whatever the reason, Super Mario World won big time in South America and Brazil yesterday. Was the NES not released there or something?

Super Mario World winning in South America was all because of Brazil. This what the results would have looked like in South America if you excluded Brazil:

Donkey Kong (1981) 14.10% 156
Mario Bros. (1983) 21.07% 233
Super Mario Bros. (1985) 35.90% 397
Super Mario Bros. 2 (1989) 2.62% 29
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1990) 5.24% 58
Super Mario World (1991) 11.75% 130
Super Mario 64 (1996) 6.33% 70
Super Mario Sunshine (2002) 0.36% 4
Super Mario Galaxy (2007) 0.27% 3
One of the many Mario spinoff games 1.36% 15
I've never played a single Mario game 0.99% 11
TOTAL VOTES 1106

Super Mario Bros. does slightly better in South America (once Brazil is excluded) compared to the whole world.
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voltch | Posted 8/19/2009 2:08:34 AM | message detail
Brazil is always the odd one out, does it have to do something culturally or because they speak portuguese instead of spanish?
Or is it because along with china and india they are amongst the fastest developping countries?

there's gotta be something that explains why brazil always seems to go against the south american norm.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/19/2009 5:43:15 AM | message detail
If you guys all flock over there for their contest...yeah.

Also, as mentioned, according to Empire Magazine Super Mario Galaxy beats MGS4, but probably loses to Call of Duty 4 even worse than it actually did...but the list suggests that Call of Duty 4 beats Ocarina of Time as well, so that would be out of Call of Duty 4 being really, really strong as opposed to SMG being a huge letdown based on expectations. On the list, Brawl was 80th, Twilight Princess was 63rd, MGS4 was 32nd, Resident Evil 4 was 30th, and Galaxy was 24th, COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE OF THEIR STRENGTHS ON THIS SITE!!! But how's this for opposite strengths: Civilization was 5th, Doom was 7th, and Ocarina of Time was 8th. YEAH, HOW AWESOME!!! Oh, and Donkey Kong Country was 76th. So apparently DKC should beat Brawl, but should lose to...Rome: Total War, which was 75th. Oh, and Final Fantasy VIII was 73rd, Diablo II was 72nd, StarCraft was 52nd, and Half-Life was 29th...MORE OPPOSITES FTW. And Call of Duty 4 was 4th, and World of Warcraft was 3rd, and Final Fantasy VII was 2nd (so FF7 IS better than Ocarina, good job Empire!), and Super Mario World was 1st. And A Link to the Past was 27th, BioShock was 26th, and Resident Evil was 25th (so RE4 isn't even the best game in it's series). Oh, and how's this for super opposites: Metroid Prime was 47th, Shadow of the Colossus (much to Ulti's bitter disappointment!!!) was 35th, and Halo 3 was 23rd.
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/19/2009 7:31:07 AM | message detail
Can't we just have a topic for the Gamespot contest here? No real point having discussion in this topic in case the GameFAQs contest happens (though I doubt it) and **** if I'm going to Gamespot's boards. It's the only interesting thing we have going for us and is probably our replacement for the GameFAQs contest. At least we're gonna get an unpredictable 1v1 contest for once!
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2009 9:02:55 AM | message detail
I'm cool with a topic here instead of overtaking this topic for it, but I plan to go to GameSpot's contest-board for discussion too.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/19/2009 9:07:22 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #177
I'm cool with a topic here instead of overtaking this topic for it, but I plan to go to GameSpot's contest-board for discussion too.


Yep, I'm posting there as well
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2009 9:15:57 AM | message detail
I really hope more people go to that forum once the contest starts. You can see what happened over the last 24 hours on the first page.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/19/2009 9:17:05 AM | message detail
I do find that one guy whining and getting modded over Squall not being in it funny
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2009 9:21:23 AM | message detail
I still like how Max Payne is considered to be the biggest snub of that contest. We'd need something like a 256 character battle for that to happen.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/19/2009 9:22:15 AM | message detail
It definently shows the difference in tastes though. When Max Payne misses contests here, nobody even notices.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2009 9:35:28 AM | message detail
It will be a lot of fun to see what happens if they ever got a nomination-system.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/19/2009 10:15:17 AM | message detail
I really hope more people go to that forum once the contest starts.

So do I! ^_^
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2009 1:43:20 PM | message detail
It's interesting to see how many fewer people started with the LoZ-series on the NES than the Mario-series, and the same goes for comparing LoZ:OoT to SM64. No big surprises, but still neat to see it like this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2009 2:30:31 PM | message detail
I kind of expected this result. IMO Link wasn't considered "Icon-like" mainstream until after Ocarina of Time.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/19/2009 3:07:33 PM | message detail
Well, it confirms the theory of younger gamers franchise voting Zelda 1 over Mario 1/3.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2009 8:46:02 PM | message detail
Probably, though this doesn't mean people didn't go back to play the original LoZ...then again, I think most people who played LoZ:OoT or LoZ:LttP first would hate LoZ for not holding their hand, too.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2009 8:59:11 PM | message detail
You know for a series that always gets high vote totals I'm surprised LoZ series didn't out-vote SMB series
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/19/2009 9:01:11 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3580&region=ASI

oh asia
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2009 9:03:19 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3580&region=NAM
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3580&region=US
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3580&region=CA

North Amercia started off with the series pretty early, but a lot of those people were from the US

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3580&region=ASI

Ouch 30% never played a LoZ game?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/19/2009 9:12:38 PM | message detail
Unlike Super Mario Bros. which was weak only in Brazil and would have won in South America if it wasn't for them, the original LoZ is weak in all of South America, including Brazil.


I think we are slowly transitioning into our regular school year trends right now.

For the poll from 2 days ago here were the vote totals for the DSV and ASV:

DSV - 29519
ASV - 31268
Vote Differential - 1749

And for the last poll:

DSV - 27462
ASV - 31498
Vote Differential - 4036

A pretty big difference between two different days within the weekday itself. I don't know if this is because of a bunch of schools starting up their school year today. Within 2 weeks, we should be completely back into regular school year trends. That's when we should be seeing a vote differential of around 10000 or more between the DSV and ASV.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2009 9:23:08 PM | message detail
College started here today for many people, so that may be a part of it.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/20/2009 4:34:07 AM | message detail
Ah, college. And I'm having trouble in high school (in India, granted, but I kinda doubt it'd be much better elsewhere; actually elsewhere I doubt I'd have the time to be here!).
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/20/2009 6:38:24 AM | message detail
And once again Asia demonstrates why it has the worst taste in all of GameFAQs.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/21/2009 8:49:41 AM | message detail
Bump
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/21/2009 2:41:06 PM | message detail
So how are we gonna keep this thread going until 2010?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 2:51:48 PM | message detail
Well I was bored today so I decided to make a chronological bracket of the last contest. Basically I took the date of each character's first game (hopefully), put them in order and split it into eight divisions. Of course some dividing lines are inbetween games (Big Boss & Solid Snake, Scorpion & Sub-Zero, Crono/Frog & Magus). Expect a lot of SFF and Kratos pretty much saves the last two divisions at being lol-worthy.

1980-1988

Bowser
Ganondorf
Luigi
Zelda

Mega Man
Nana
Ryu
The Dog

Big Boss
Link
Mario
Samus

Donkey Kong
L-Block
Pac-Man
Pit

1988-1992

Kain Highwind
King Dedede
Marth
Solid Snake

Cecil Harvey
Guybrush Threepwood
Kirby
Sonic

CATS
Rydia
Ryu Hayabusa
Yoshi

Alucard
Captain Falcon
Duke Nukem
Scorpion

1992-1995

Kefka
Mega Man X
Meta Knight
Siegfried Schtauffen

Fox McCloud
Frog
Knuckles the Echidna
Miles “Tails” Prower

Ness
Sub-Zero
Wario
Zero

Crono
Diddy Kong
Falco Lombardi
Nightmare

1995-1998

Leon Kennedy
Tifa Lockheart
Vincent Valentine
Deckard Cain

Cloud Strife
Sephiroth
Jill Valentine
Jinjo

Chris Redfield
Crash Bandicoot
Magus
Ramza

Albert Wesker
Banjo
Geno
Zack Fair

1998-2001

Fei Fong Wong
Isaac
Raiden
Squall Leonhart

Dante
Gordon Freeman
Mewtwo
Zidane Tribal

Heavy
Master Chief
Liquid Snake
Pikachu

Revolver Ocelot
Shadow the Hedgehog
Spy
Vivi Ornitier

2001-2004

Auron
Captain Olimar
Hogger
Lloyd Irving

KOS-MOS
Kratos Aurion
Ratchet
Riku

Arthas Menethil
Laharl
Sandbag
Tidus

Mudkip
Roxas
Sora
Tom Nook

2005-2007

Kratos
Lucario
Miles Edgeworth
Wander

Balthier Bunansa
Frank West
Luke fon Fabre
Midna

Axel Steel
Lucas
Marcus Fenix
Phoenix Wright

Amaterasu
Ike
Jade Curtiss
Raz

2007-2008

Commander Shepard
Neku Sakuraba
Travis Touchdown
Weighted Companion Cube

Altair
Captain MacMillan
Kaim Argonar
Sackboy

Big Daddy
Nathan Drake
Niko Bellic
Tim

GlaDOS
Nero
Professor Layton
Sho Minamimoto

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/21/2009 2:54:55 PM | message detail
Using American release dates I assume?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2009 2:55:23 PM | message detail
Yes, except with Marth and Lucas where I used the japenese release.
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