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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 754

HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2009 9:54:52 PM | message detail
Interesting poll, though I don't know how much we can really take from it...it'd been nice if we had an older poll of this to compare against.

Also, I'm going to pay attention to the GameSpot contest they're doing. It's a shame they're just doing heroes, though it should still be interesting to see how they go. If they ever expand to all characters, that'll just be all the more variety. It's kinda funny to see Bo Jackson in there though!
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2009 9:58:09 PM | message detail
Also, there are two Noble Niners missing from GameSpot's contest: Sephiroth, which is expected since it's a Hero-contest...and Crono. In fact, it looks like Cloud's the only real Square-rep in there.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/17/2009 10:12:40 PM | message detail
My god, such high votals for a non-contest poll. I haven't seen a non-contest poll break 10000 votes by the end of the first hour ever since the "What time do you normally go to bed every day?" poll on 6/19/2009, which had 10899 votes at the end of the first hour. That poll went on to get 112396 votes. Today's poll is at 10138 votes at the end of the first hour and should be able to at least break 105000 here.

Sephiroth, which is expected since it's a Hero-contest

No Sephiroth on this list:

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/heroes/index.html

Plus, Sephiroth is a villain so he's not going to be in a hero contest.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2009 10:14:21 PM | message detail
I meant that as in it's expected for Sephiroth to not be in that contest.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/17/2009 11:01:15 PM | message detail
One of the things I really wanna see this contest is how the Chief does. Halo 3: ODST is releasing late september/early october, and we know how the last Halo 3 release helped Chief..
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2009 11:10:05 PM | message detail
A lot of GameSpot users are expecting him to win. Then again, a lot of GameFAQs users seem to predict him going far EVERY year.

The names I've seen thrown about the most are MC, Solid Snake, Mario, Link, and Gordon Freeman...after what Solid Snake did last year here -- even accounting for fishiness at the end -- I gotta think that means enough good things for him to thrive in a GameSpot contest, especially since it's the Greatest Hero contest. MC sounds like a nice pick, but he couldn't beat Solid here in the heat of Halo 3 AND pre-MGS4/SSBB, so I wonder if there can be THAT big of a disparity between GameFAQs and GameSpot...because that's huge. I'm also curious to see the Mario/Link relationship in GameSpot compared to here...I gotta favor Link until proven otherwise, but it'd be fun to see it. Gordon-talk felt like the sexy upset-pick for enough people to seem manageable, though GFAW feels too weird to say!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/17/2009 11:11:56 PM | message detail
Gamefaqs/Gamespot are very similiar audiences I'd imagine, since they're connected. I'd expect Cloud and Sephy to still rip **** up
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/17/2009 11:12:33 PM | message detail
AND pre-MGS4/SSBB

...So? SSBB's pre-game hype obviously helped Snake out tons.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2009 11:15:05 PM | message detail
Fair enough, though Solid Snake still looked stronger last year than 2007.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/17/2009 11:19:00 PM | message detail
Yeah, bandwagoning tends to do that.

Seriously though, he didn't really seem that much stronger to me until the bandwagon took place. He still finished well behind Cloud in round 4, around where I would have expected him to be in 2006.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/17/2009 11:19:56 PM | message detail
I think Solid Snake, without bandwagoning, is still a solid number 4 overall now though
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/17/2009 11:21:00 PM | message detail
I'd still like to see him face Mario or Samus in a fair situation before I'd conclude that.

And then I'd like to see the winner face Sephiroth!
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2009 11:49:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, bandwagoning made him look much stronger, but even without it he did fine for himself. He still did fine against Cloud pre-rallies (he did about as well against Cloud with Mewtwo as Mario did against Sephiroth with Fox [in the sprite round, at that]), plus he almost beat Mega Man and Zero combined. Going from being forgotten in 2007's finals to the star in 2008's is still a very noteworthy jump too, even if it's solely by rallying, because something happened to make those rallies happen in 2008 instead of 2007...SSBB/MGS4. Though it's not a big jump on the surface, Solid went from probably losing in a rematch to Samus to probably beating Mario head-to-head. I think that means more than what's immediately obvious.

Besides, look at how SSBB and MGS4 did in BGE2 and how anticipated Solid had been since 2006 -- especially in comparison to the rest of their division. I'm just not believing we saw the same Solid Snake post-releases when they both mostly lived up to the hype. Damn four-ways keep us from seeing with certainty, of course, but I'm giving him the strong benefit of the doubt on a boost for last year.
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voltch | Posted 8/18/2009 3:28:47 AM | message detail
who the hell are these guys?
the nameless one? Ben? the apprentice? the stranger?kurt hectic?
at least gamefaqs fodder is entertaining like Manny Calavera and King of all cosmos.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/18/2009 3:47:48 AM | message detail
I think I have an explanation for the 3 Genesis polls in a row.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/genesis/data/916377.html

The Genesis had its 20th anniversary just a few days ago (US release date).
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/18/2009 4:32:04 AM | message detail
The Nameless One is the main character of Planescape: Torment, which is coming off of being named the 11th best game ever by Empire Magazine (on a list where Brawl was 80th, Super Mario Galaxy was 24th, and Gears of War was 18th...yeah).
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 6:52:20 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #113
Yeah, bandwagoning made him look much stronger, but even without it he did fine for himself. He still did fine against Cloud pre-rallies (he did about as well against Cloud with Mewtwo as Mario did against Sephiroth with Fox [in the sprite round, at that]), plus he almost beat Mega Man and Zero combined. Going from being forgotten in 2007's finals to the star in 2008's is still a very noteworthy jump too, even if it's solely by rallying, because something happened to make those rallies happen in 2008 instead of 2007...SSBB/MGS4. Though it's not a big jump on the surface, Solid went from probably losing in a rematch to Samus to probably beating Mario head-to-head. I think that means more than what's immediately obvious.

Besides, look at how SSBB and MGS4 did in BGE2 and how anticipated Solid had been since 2006 -- especially in comparison to the rest of their division. I'm just not believing we saw the same Solid Snake post-releases when they both mostly lived up to the hype. Damn four-ways keep us from seeing with certainty, of course, but I'm giving him the strong benefit of the doubt on a boost for last year.


Head-to-head, Mario destroys Snake. Snake's jump in strength is partially derived from Ninty votes due to his Brawl appearance, and anyone who thinks Mario can't SFF the hell out of everything Nintendo not named Link needs to think it over again. That leaves us with an only slightly bigger mature/PS audience, which still isn't enough to take down Mario IMO.
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 6:53:38 AM | message detail
*Slightly bigger compared to his pre-MGS4 phase.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 6:59:23 AM | message detail
http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/index.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=picks&tag=picks%3Btitle%3B1

Nathan Drake is number 1 among those, with twice as many votes as Kirby.

Seems Gamespot has better taste!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 7:32:05 AM | message detail
Also looking at the list of characters in Gamespots version...

No Crono? And Cloud is the ONLY final fantasy character?
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/18/2009 7:34:25 AM | message detail
who the hell are these guys?
the nameless one? Ben? the apprentice? the stranger?kurt hectic?
at least gamefaqs fodder is entertaining like Manny Calavera and King of all cosmos.


Holy ****, there's other games besides Nintendo and Square's? **** Gamespot!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 7:42:14 AM | message detail

From: L33t_Rappa_Sam | #121
who the hell are these guys?
the nameless one? Ben? the apprentice? the stranger?kurt hectic?
at least gamefaqs fodder is entertaining like Manny Calavera and King of all cosmos.


Holy ****, there's other games besides Nintendo and Square's? **** Gamespot!


lol, seriously. I'm glad to see theres a lot more variety with their characters

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/heroes/index.html

Heres a link to the 54 characters already in it
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 8/18/2009 7:46:56 AM | message detail
It reminds me a lot of the 2002 contest.

Should be interesting to watch, I guess.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 7:48:25 AM | message detail
Plus it should be 1v1 for those of you who like that type of match!
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:09:39 AM | message detail
The reason why Cloud is the only Final Fantasy character is because they wanted only one character per series to add variety. Yoshi apparently has his own series.

I'm going to go with Solid Snake as the overall winner with Link, Mario, Master Chief and Gordon Freeman doing well.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:10:13 AM | message detail
Doesn't explain no Crono tho >_>
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:12:24 AM | message detail
Maybe none of the Gamespot staff are Chrono Trigger fans.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:13:29 AM | message detail
Maybe... but he'd still be alot better then alot of the crap they have in the contest, like Gex, Bonk, Dig Dug, etc
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/18/2009 8:21:21 AM | message detail
I guess...

I wonder if the bracket will be set up like it was in 2002. Pac-Man as a one seed? fodder/fodder matches? Will the top 10 in the qualifiers be the lowest seeded?
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 8:21:53 AM | message detail
I'd just chalk it up to LOL Gamespot and leave it at that. :P
HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 8:22:25 AM | message detail
Head-to-head, Mario destroys Snake. Snake's jump in strength is partially derived from Ninty votes due to his Brawl appearance, and anyone who thinks Mario can't SFF the hell out of everything Nintendo not named Link needs to think it over again. That leaves us with an only slightly bigger mature/PS audience, which still isn't enough to take down Mario IMO.

Solid Snake led Link for six hours last year despite being above Mario on the SFF-chain and still beat LFF'd-Cloud despite a rallied Kirby who just beat Sonic. Even if you throw out those two rounds for Solid (which is wise...for the most part), he didn't let Mewtwo hold him up much against Cloud and Solid did about as well in R4 last year as Mario did against Sephiroth with sprite-Fox. Solid already looks indirectly ahead in that regard and hasn't looked to be badly affected by Nintendo since SSBB's release against the three Nintendo stars he's gone against. Plus, with the idea of "What have you done for me lately?," compare MGS4 to SMG in BGE2...and try to tell me Mario was the reason instead of Solid that SSBB got mega-hype from its very first trailer with a straight face.

They're pretty equal, and I would give Solid the slight indirect edge. Mario could SFF Solid a little, sure, but we've not seen Nintendo bother Solid since SSBB's/MGS4's releases and Solid's got the majority of the x-factors going on.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:22:41 AM | message detail
I also wonder how votals will be if they put it on the main page. Gamespot gets way more hits on a daily basis then Gamefaqs
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 8:23:34 AM | message detail
They could have had at least Sora though.....
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:24:20 AM | message detail
Yeah, checking the forums on Gamespot about it, the 3 characters most people are complaining about not making it are Sora, Crono, and Max Payne
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 8:30:27 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #131
Head-to-head, Mario destroys Snake. Snake's jump in strength is partially derived from Ninty votes due to his Brawl appearance, and anyone who thinks Mario can't SFF the hell out of everything Nintendo not named Link needs to think it over again. That leaves us with an only slightly bigger mature/PS audience, which still isn't enough to take down Mario IMO.

Solid Snake led Link for six hours last year despite being above Mario on the SFF-chain and still beat LFF'd-Cloud despite a rallied Kirby who just beat Sonic. Even if you throw out those two rounds for Solid (which is wise...for the most part), he didn't let Mewtwo hold him up much against Cloud and Solid did about as well in R4 last year as Mario did against Sephiroth with sprite-Fox. Solid already looks indirectly ahead in that regard and hasn't looked to be badly affected by Nintendo since SSBB's release against the three Nintendo stars he's gone against. Plus, with the idea of "What have you done for me lately?," compare MGS4 to SMG in BGE2...and try to tell me Mario was the reason instead of Solid that SSBB got mega-hype from its very first trailer with a straight face.

They're pretty equal, and I would give Solid the slight indirect edge. Mario could SFF Solid a little, sure, but we've not seen Nintendo bother Solid since SSBB's/MGS4's releases and Solid's got the majority of the x-factors going on.


Except for Samus/Solid in 2006. That one match happened with a comparably weaker Snake, but we must remember Samus is weaker than Mario for the most part. Additonally, if it's close, I consider Mario's clutch to be stronger than Snake's, TBH. It's a tossup, but if we got a bracket that featured Mario/Snake, I'd pick for Mario. After all, the board as a whole has thought "X has to be stronger than Mario, the performances are comparably better!"...and that led to Mario>Samus. I just don't see Snake as having a big enough fanbase once his Nintendo support is siphoned out to stand up to Mario, especially not considering Mario is getting a couple more games soon.
HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 8:31:14 AM | message detail
I think they should have thrown a few more Square characters in the current poll they're doing; between the LFF and differing tastes, it's not like Squall, Auron, Vivi, Crono, and Sora would have all advanced anyway. Heck, you could still put them as the bottom seeds in the bracket, too -- it wouldn't be the first time Squall was a 15-seed!
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 8:32:12 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #134
Yeah, checking the forums on Gamespot about it, the 3 characters most people are complaining about not making it are Sora, Crono, and Max Payne


My respect for Gamespot has risen a little after this.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:34:09 AM | message detail
Nintendo support is siphoned out to stand up to Mario, especially not considering Mario is getting a couple more games soon.

Thats really a non factor; theres 2 Metal Gear games coming up, too.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/18/2009 8:36:06 AM | message detail
It reminds me a lot of the 2002 contest.

Oh yeah, that was a font of great characters we need to see return.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/18/2009 8:38:37 AM | message detail
This is a list of characters in the bracket already:

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/heroes/index.html

The characters on the other page are just being voted on to see who gets the last spot.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:39:31 AM | message detail

From: Yesmar | #140
This is a list of characters in the bracket already:

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/heroes/index.html

The characters on the other page are just being voted on to see who gets the last spot.


Last spots, actually. Top 10 in votes get the last 10 sports
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 8:43:29 AM | message detail
Nintendo support is siphoned out to stand up to Mario, especially not considering Mario is getting a couple more games soon.

Thats really a non factor; theres 2 Metal Gear games coming up, too.

True, the MGS fanbase is really weird. Logic dictates Raiden and Big Boss will be the ones to get a boost, but then I remember Ocelot bombing after EVERYONE ELSE BOOSTED in 2008.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 8:44:50 AM | message detail
I don't think that Snake has to be the main character of them to stay strong... he'll stay in peoples minds if they are still playing metal gear games, especially with Naked Snake essentially looking like Solid anyway
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2009 9:09:35 AM | message detail
Except for Samus/Solid in 2006. That one match happened with a comparably weaker Snake, but we must remember Samus is weaker than Mario for the most part. Additonally, if it's close, I consider Mario's clutch to be stronger than Snake's, TBH. It's a tossup, but if we got a bracket that featured Mario/Snake, I'd pick for Mario. After all, the board as a whole has thought "X has to be stronger than Mario, the performances are comparably better!"...and that led to Mario>Samus. I just don't see Snake as having a big enough fanbase once his Nintendo support is siphoned out to stand up to Mario, especially not considering Mario is getting a couple more games soon.

The differences between your comparison of Mario/Samus and Mario/Solid: Solid is ...this... much Nintendo while Samus is *THIS* much Nintendo, and we were going solely off (numerous) stats that when against the natural Nintendo hierachy with Mario/Samus -- Solid's no part of that hierarchy and has more x-factors and trends than stats backing him. He led Cloud for forty-eight hours straight and led Link for six hours...has Mario ever even won an update on Link? That's a scary x-factor that I wouldn't count on Mario having the advantage of lately, and comparing how Mario/Solid looked against Sephiroth/Cloud in recent years is a strong stat to have.

I wouldn't worry about Mario getting new games soon, either...he's always had new games coming, his newest ones aren't that anticipated here, his last two major releases weren't received that well here (despite a GotY-award, oddly), and he's had tons of games already.
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voltch | Posted 8/18/2009 12:37:54 PM | message detail
on gfaqs, sword characters tend to be strong, but I wonder if gun guys will do better on gs.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/18/2009 1:59:39 PM | message detail
It's okay, Crono would probably be pretty weak on Gamespot anyway. I don't want to see him losing to the likes of Master Chief.

As for Mario/Snake, Mario is NOT his 2005-2007 self anymore. I'm not going to get into the endless debate about whether Mario or Samus was stronger indirectly in that period, but in any case, Mario fell rather considerably in 2008. Snake probably rose a bit from his 2006 strength. If Mario wants to beat Snake nowadays, he's probably going to have to use some rSFF.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/18/2009 2:03:22 PM | message detail
Though it's not a big jump on the surface, Solid went from probably losing in a rematch to Samus to probably beating Mario head-to-head.

...Based on what? An absolutely meaningless overperformance in the finals?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/18/2009 2:10:24 PM | message detail
Oh, I think Master Chief is gonna be a beast on Gamespot. I think he's gonna win it.

Cuz Halo 3 ODST coming out during that contest, and we know how Halo hype helps Chief... and the fact that Gamespot likes shooters more, just evidenced by people thinking Gordon has a chance of winning it
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/18/2009 2:16:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, I agree that Chief will probably be pretty strong over there. All the more reason that it's not a terrible loss that Crono isn't in that contest. Now if Crono were ever to be absent from a Gamefaqs contest......automatic worst contest ever, I don't care if Cloud pulls a 3000 vote comeback with the SNV to beat Link in the final after the character I like more wins every match in the contest.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/18/2009 2:17:19 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 8/18/2009 2:10:24 PM | #148
Oh, I think Master Chief is gonna be a beast on Gamespot. I think he's gonna win it.

Cuz Halo 3 ODST coming out during that contest, and we know how Halo hype helps Chief... and the fact that Gamespot likes shooters more, just evidenced by people thinking Gordon has a chance of winning it


No GAME FUEL + Different character - Voters r dum = ...tough sell, but it could work, right?