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I made a goal the other day to create my first serious four-way bracket, so...now I've made one. Check it out.



85-95 + 08-09:
Gears of War 2
Grand Theft Auto 4
Sonic the Hedgehog
Super Mario World

Left 4 Dead
Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
Resident Evil 5
Street Fighter 2

Chrono Trigger
Punch-Out!!
Spore
Street Fighter 4

Mega Man X
Rock Band 2
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Tetris

Fallout 3
Final Fantasy 3/6
Legend of Zelda
Persona 4

Mario Kart Wii
Mortal Kombat 2
Super Mario Bros.
The World Ends With You

Fable 2
Final Fantasy 2/4
Metal Gear Solid 4
Super Mario Kart

Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
LittleBigPlanet
Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Metroid


98-99 + 04-05
Call of Duty 2
Gran Turismo
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

Halo 2
Soul Calibur
Super Smash Bros.
Tekken 3

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Half-Life
Resident Evil 4
Xenogears

Metal Gear Solid
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Starcraft
Tales of Symphonia

Banjo Kazooie
Donkey Kong 64
Final Fantasy 8
Metal Gear Solid 3

Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Final Fantasy Tactics
Half-Life 2
World of Warcraft

God of War
Guitar Hero
Mario Kart DS
Sonic Adventure

Devil May Cry 3
Ninja Gaiden (Xbox)
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
Shadow of the Colossus


00-03
Deus Ex
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Morrowind
Super Smash Bros. Melee

Animal Crossing
Final Fantasy X-2
Fire Emblem
Perfect Dark

Chrono Cross
Grand Theft Auto 3
Devil May Cry
Warcraft 3

Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2
Metroid Prime
WWF No Mercy

Halo
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Soul Calibur 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Kingdom Hearts
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker

Diablo 2
Final Fantasy 9
Eternal Darkness
Paper Mario

Disgaea
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Silent Hill 2
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle


96-97 + 06-07:
Duke Nukem 3D
Final Fantasy 7
Quake
Team Fortress 2

Call of Duty 4
Final Fantasy 12
Super Mario Galaxy
Guitar Hero 3

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Goldeneye
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Resident Evil 2

Mario Kart 64
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Portal
Suikoden

Area 51
Oblivion
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
Super Mario RPG

Kingdom Hearts 2
Kirby Super Star
Mass Effect
Resident Evil

BioShock
Diddy Kong Racing
Star Fox 64
Halo 3

Gears of War
Okami
Super Mario 64
Tomb Raider
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975

Also, about the bracket: long story short/ened, I based it off of divisions by era by every two years instead of three (except for games from 1995 or before; I just took sixteen of those games and made them their own era), then combined the eight new eras to make four big divisions: 85-95 + 08-09, 96-97 + 06-07, 98-99 + 04-05, and 2000-2003. This should ensure we get some big variations in age against each other, though 2000-2003 is almost just a remix of the 2001-2003 division. Every era has equal representation of sixteen games, too; most games are back from BGE2, though there are some new ones at the expense of the weakest games from 1995 or before (sorry, newer fodder > older fodder). Every first round match has games from different eras facing each other.

Unfortunately, we still get some problems like LoZ:OoT/RBY facing each other again. It's just REALLY hard for me to made an era-less 128-bracket and -- even with my crazy system -- I had to stick to the formula. Still, you see that in a lot of brackets and I hope it's acceptable anyway.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975

So we get OoT/MGS4/Melee/FF7. More diverse, but still meh. Only so much mileage you can get out of generations.

I think the current bracket would've been much more interesting if we go ahead and nix FF7 and OoT and replace them with fodder. CT might have been able to coast to the finals with LttP, or perhaps Mario 64 and LttP would've still been too powerful for CT to overcome and we could've had a hilarious LttP/SM64/SMB3/SMW semifinal, and on the other side RBY/FFX/MGS4/Brawl would've been complete insanity. Yeah, there's a good chance the final would've been Nintendo heavy and FFX or MGS4 would likely win, but there's still more possibilities just in that same exact bracket minus the two juggernauts.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Yeah, next contest we definently need to get FF7 and OoT out. They are so above everyone else, we can have some real excitement about who will win with them gone
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No, they have to stay in so FFVII can try to take back the championship. Any victory in a contest without FFVII and OOT would only be hollow, even if that winner is CT. Although.....the idea of CT winning a contest is......intoxicating.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

As for using the past contest's bracket with FFVII and OOT removed....that probably gives us CT/LTTP/RBY/FFX for the final. That's.....very interesting, actually.
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From: red sox 777 | #356
No, they have to stay in so FFVII can try to take back the championship. Any victory in a contest without FFVII and OOT would only be hollow, even if that winner is CT. Although.....the idea of CT winning a contest is......intoxicating.

...ff7 isnt going to take back the championship let alone a ff7 remake, so i'd rather have an exciting contest then know its gonna be oot again
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FFVII can't take back the championship? It broke 47% in the grand final and 48% in the 4-way final. That's substantially better than what OOT got back in 2004. Change happens. In fact, FFVII has been at #4 or so on the FAQs list since the end of the contest, so it's arguably made up a little bit of ground already. OOT is the favorite, but if you pretend that 52-48 matches are obvious, you'll proceed to wipe out just about every interesting match in contest history. Good matches are usually not the matches we expect to be good.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

That's substantially better than what OOT got back in 2004.

that... actually hurts your case. If FF7 has fallen so much in the last 5 years, with it getting older and less played in 5 more years, it should fall that much to the point OoT might even be beating it by like 56-57%
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George Bush lost the popular vote to Al Gore in 2000. George Bush beat John Kerry by 3% in 2004. Therefore, John McCain beat Barack Obama by 6% in 2008 along with the GOP finally getting 60 seats in the Senate and we are well on our way to a permanent Republican majority.....wait.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

...There are so many things wrong with that statement that I'm not even going to give it a response.
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It's just like saying that FFVII has no chance to ever beat OOT again so we shouldn't even bother holding the match!
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

... But your arguement is that since different entities are able to beat eachother in different years, its possible FF7 to reclaim its title. When you know, not everything has the same strength. For example, John Kerry was one of the worst democrat presidental candidates of the last 30 years, compared to Gore who was very wlel liked. Thats l
ike FF6 vs. FF7
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If you want a better analogy, consider Mario/Crono. They were even in 2003, and Crono won with 53% in 2004. Therefore, Crono should have won by even more in 2005. Instead, he barely got 46%.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

I understand FF7 could come back to beat LoZ:OoT and all...but Square's just not the force it used to be (here or in general) and Nintendo's staying in first with the console wars this generation -- its first time since GameFAQs started having contests (or even since it was made...?). It helps that the Wii aims to expand its audience with new gamers, too, so that means good things for Nintendo in the future. Also, Nintendo's had or made most of the past GotY-winners on its systems here, so -- even when Nintendo falls short with E3 or the System of the Year polls or whatever -- it's still continually earning trust and making fans. Square's just not a comparably constant force anymore.

Final Fantasy will always be big and Kingdom Hearts has grown to be a major force, but FF13's gonna come over three years after FF12 and we're already three years past KH2 with no word or KH3. Nintendo can get away with doing that with LoZ, SMB, Pokemon, SSB, Metroid, and Mario Kart because it has all those mega-series, plus it's got many other smaller series while making systems. All this, and we've not even talked about the DS kicking ass in sales and ownership or all the times Nintendo's re-released its classics like LoZ:OoT.


FF13 will have to be huge and Square will have to quickly and continuously follow-up on it to get FF7 in contention with LoZ:OoT again, because there's not much about GameFAQs that suggests Nintendo's losing popularity quicker or more Square-fans are coming...here or otherwise.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975

FFVII's only chance to beat OoT again is to get a remake, one that's heavily pushed and advertised. That's the only thing that will do it.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Why are we assuming FFVII dropped since '04? I'd be more likely to say that Ocarina boosted a bunch. FFVII still looked great in every match except the ones with OoT.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

It's probably a mixture of both, though more OoT gaining than FFVII dropping.
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A tournament of champions with the top two against OoT and FF7, and then dropping it down to the inevitable OoT/FF7 rematch is fine. OoT and FF7 is just one match, but don't forget they also have ten other matches where they murder other strong games with SFF. If we remove FF7 and OoT from the current bracket, this recent contest sure becomes a hell of a lot more interesting, with LttP, CT, FFX, MGS4, Brawl, and RBY all being serious contenders to win. With FF7 and OoT, a lot got ****ed over, Brawl and RBY getting SFFed out, and FF7 taking up a spot cutting off CT from advancing with SM64 to the point where with LttP it could have actually advanced to the semis and then the finals. We could've had Brawl/RBY/FFX/MGS4 and SMB3/SMW/LttP/CT for semifinals, the latter bringing the potential LttP/CT exciting rematch we all wanted due to the Marios slightly holding the easily stronger LttP back, and the former becoming a much bigger cluster**** with all four having a very valid reason to advance.

I really see no reason to keep these two juggernauts in when all they're going to do is waste matches, since we could have them square off in a ToC anyway like in 2005.

On a completely different note, while I'm thinking about it, I'm going to go ahead and predict that L-Block will not be in the next character contest.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

It's not that there's any good reason for taking FFVII over OOT in the near future, but rather that it is possible if unlikely, and it's absolutely ridiculous to claim that the match is enough of a foregone conclusion that we shouldn't even hold it.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

I'm pretty sure its FFVII dropping. Just look at Cloud recent years... he's let Snake beat him in a match thats was pretty much neutral (I doubt Crono hurt Cloud much), and old Cloud would never of let Snake get close to him, let alone beat him.
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Well, let's start calling for Link's head for letting L-Block beat him because that's even worse!
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

From: LeonhartFour | #373
Well, let's start calling for Link's head for letting L-Block beat him because that's even worse!

Actually, they are both the exact same.


They lost to the second worst, and third worst cheaters of all time in L Block and MGS fans. (Mario now has first locked up forever after the Quarterfinal this year)
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DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK???

L Block did not cheat, you whiner.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!

Okay, this isn't bitter fanboys stats and discussion.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

L Block is a bit different. I wouldn't be calling for Links head when the entier internet rallied to beat him (didnt it have like 190k votes?). But Cloud has no reason for Snake to beat him, Snake boost or not.
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It's still rallying, though to a far less degree because Snake still couldn't beat Link. What Cloud would do to Snake legitimately, you saw in Cloud/Snake/Cube/Mewtwo.
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Turnabout Krahenprophet
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Assuming FFVII and OoT were replaced with random games the final would have been

Chrono Trigger (lol Nintendo-SFF)
LoZ: A Link to the Past
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (RBY & Melee kill each other then MGS and MGS4 do the same)
Final Fantasy X

Personally I'd say Chrono Trigger would be the favourite.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

Eh, it might be. I'd go FFX though, I think its second strongest Square game now.
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From: UltimaterializerX | #375
L Block did not cheat, you whiner.

Yes it did you anti Link fanboy.


And I am very down with CT winning the whole thing.
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DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK???

I think RBY's got to be the favorite over Brawl to advance to the final with OOT gone. Round 3 RBY and MGS would advance, round 4 RBY and either FFX or MGS would advance. SSBM would still be there, but the much heavier weight of OOT would be gone, and FFX didn't win by very much. Then in the semifinal it would be RBY/Brawl/MGS4/FFX(MGS)- again, shouldn't be a problem.

I'd go with CT in the final too, whether RBY or Brawl is there. I see decent winning chances for LTTP and RBY (if it's there) as well.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

I love CT, but I lost a lot of respect for its contest strength after it lost to SM64. I can't see SM64 beating FFX.
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SM64 only lost by 200 votes to LTTP. LTTP put up the same percentage against FFVII with 2 Nintendo games dragging it down as FFX got on OOT with Brawl helping out its cause by hurting OOT. Yeah, OOT beating FFVII made this much less embarassing for FFX, but it still looks to be a step below LTTP/SM64/CT.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #383
I love CT, but I lost a lot of respect for its contest strength after it lost to SM64. I can't see SM64 beating FFX.

1 OoT
2 FF VII
3 RBY
4 Brawl
5 ALttP
6 SM 64
7/8 SMW/CT
9 Melee
10 possibly FF X, could be a bunch of others as well.
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DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK???

Actually Melee was the reason why RBY lost to FFX. MGS would have defeated FFX if it wasn't eliminated a round before.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

I'm not so sure MGS defeats FFX. It's difficult to say how much Melee hindered RBY anyway.
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Turnabout Krahenprophet
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RBY would probably have beaten FFX if either Melee or OOT were not present. It got very unlucky and was saddled with both.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

From: charmander6000 | #386
Actually Melee was the reason why RBY lost to FFX. MGS would have defeated FFX if it wasn't eliminated a round before.

What?


Huh?

You are kidding, right?

I mean, you can't seriously have said that.


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DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK???

Mgs isn't getting more then 45% on FFX
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I mean, you can't seriously have said that.

MGS got 35.11% against OoT in round 3

FFX got 34.59% against OoT in round 5

OoT in round 4 gives FFX too much of an advantage since there were two other Nintendo games.
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FFX/MGS looks to be a difficult match to call. People jumped all over me during the contest for suggesting that MGS had a chance here after FFX's round 4 match- "common sense" apparently said FFX was a huge favorite. As far as actual performance in contests goes, though, they look to have pretty similar strengths.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

From: charmander6000 | #391
I mean, you can't seriously have said that.

MGS got 35.11% against OoT in round 3

FFX got 34.59% against OoT in round 5

OoT in round 4 gives FFX too much of an advantage since there were two other Nintendo games.

Round 3 had RBY, the third strongest game on the site, and the only game we have ever seen made by Nintendo that does not get CRUSHED by OoT.

Round 5 had MGS 4, which we know for a fact (since we have seen it a ton now) is somehow related to FF series for SFF.



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DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK???

You're missing another game- Final Fantasy VIII- from your analysis there.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

Round 3 had RBY, the third strongest game on the site, and the only game we have ever seen made by Nintendo that does not get CRUSHED by OoT.

While nowhere near the third strongest game you do agree that RBY resists SFF from OoT than Brawl would, which would mean OoT/RBY have less overlap and would then mean FFX should have done better.

Opps.

Round 5 had MGS 4, which we know for a fact (since we have seen it a ton now) is somehow related to FF series for SFF.

MGS had FFVIII and I'll say they have more in common than FFX and MGS4.

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From: charmander6000 | #395
Round 3 had RBY, the third strongest game on the site, and the only game we have ever seen made by Nintendo that does not get CRUSHED by OoT.

While nowhere near the third strongest game you do agree that RBY resists SFF from OoT than Brawl would, which would mean OoT/RBY have less overlap and would then mean FFX should have done better.

Opps.

Round 5 had MGS 4, which we know for a fact (since we have seen it a ton now) is somehow related to FF series for SFF.

MGS had FFVIII and I'll say they have more in common than FFX and MGS4.

Apparently it is not enough that you looked like a fool the entire contest while I was telling you it was (easily for that matter) #3, while you were saying it was not even top 10, but now you must continue to embarrass yourself after it all ends, and it is more or less obvious. RBY absolutely did better than every other game in this contest except the big 2,

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From: Meeks54 | #396
Apparently it is not enough that you looked like a fool the entire contest while I was telling you it was (easily for that matter) #3, while you were saying it was not even top 10, but now you must continue to embarrass yourself after it all ends, and it is more or less obvious. RBY absolutely did better than every other game in this contest except the big 2,

...And SM64 and LttP.

Apparently it is not enough that you looked like a fool the entire contest while I was telling you it was (easily for that matter) #3, while you were saying it was not even top 10, but now you must continue to embarrass yourself after it all ends, and it is more or less obvious. RBY absolutely did better than every other game in this contest except the big 2,

While I was pretty big on it not being on the top 10 I did add a condition that if it did it would be 9 or 10 which it is.

LttP, the 3 Marios and even Chrono Trigger all make strong cases of being stronger than RBY as do Brawl and Melee.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

Pfft, I'd still pick Brawl to win overall. I honestly think it's the third-strongest game and would SFF any Nintendo game not named OoT. I mean, RBY would resist SFF as well as it did against OoT, but I still don't think it has enough momentum to beat Brawl, and I think Brawl is stronger than LttP. CT would have an advantage, but after it's fall and having even a slight split with LttP and FFX/MGS4, I'd still go with Brawl despite LttP. Hell, I think CT would get third in such a match, with Brawl winning and FFX/MGS4 second, depending on which advances of course. But that's just me, and we've really got a few solid contenders for third-strongest game, a debate a FF7/OoT-less contest would likely solve!

Is this discussion about third-strongest games giving anyone else Earthbound flashbacks?
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Rallying is not cheating, crybaby. Need a tissue?
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!