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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 752

UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2009 12:51:18 AM | message detail
The other one is near 490, surprised one hasn't been made yet.


~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/27/2009 12:52:39 AM | message detail
I think someone did make one but it purged since they made it too early.
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KrahenProphet, he come to town! Come to win the GameFAQs Contest!
Congrats to KrahenProphet on winning the Best Game Ever 2009 Guru Contest!
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2009 6:23:25 PM | message detail
Dead topic series is dead.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/27/2009 6:25:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, Anagram made one, but it purged because he made it at post 451. Whoops.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."
redrocket | Posted 6/28/2009 12:05:46 PM | message detail
It doesn't have to be a video game character tournament if the field is expanded. That's just a bad restriction because it defeats the purpose of adding them.

We might as well just drop the "appeared in a video game" restriction then.

Atticus Finch and Scarlet O'Hara for the Character Battle who wants some?

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From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch
KingBartz | Posted 6/28/2009 12:12:43 PM | message detail
tag again
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GURU STATUS: Eliminated by a guy who was eliminated by a guy who was eliminated by a guy who was eliminated by a guy who was by KrahenProphet
HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2009 12:15:47 PM | message detail
Then I think I've looked at this idea differently from you and others then. I still want the focus to be on video game characters whether they originated from a game or not. If the idea is to let video game characters face others via a loophole of them having been in a video game before, I don't support that or the direction that leads.

It's a tiny difference, but it matters a lot to me. I hate to use the slippery-slope argument, but if we're doing that, then why not just allow any fictional character regardless of their gaming status other than we don't think we could persuade SB to go that far?
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
Yesmar | Posted 6/28/2009 12:30:32 PM | message detail
Who would the most popular character to never appear in a video game be?

Hannibal Lecter? Kramer? Forrest Gump? I'm sure most Disney characters have been in a video game, especially after Kingdom Hearts.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Calintares | Posted 6/28/2009 5:49:44 PM | message detail
whoa, imagine how antivoted Jar Jar Binks would be.

anyone ought to be able to score 90% on him.

Tanner might beat him.
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Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to sig Krahenprophet and die.
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/29/2009 11:57:36 AM | message detail
Have to disagree with HaR on this one.

LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2009 1:01:09 PM | message detail
How is that keeping them on the same field? Let them use common artwork regardless of the medium. That would be keeping it on the same field.


Yes, agreed. Let's just concentrate on getting the strongest video game characters into the field, and from there on let everyone always look their best in their match pics, as I've argued we should always have been doing. The non-traditional characters are probably at something of a disadvantage anyways when going up against the veterans- why drive them down even further by forcing Indiana Jones to look like a lego?

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KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail!
thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com
HaRRicH | Posted 6/29/2009 12:21:24 PM | message detail
I don't care to see Harrison Ford against Solid Snake though. If a realistic Indy is to be represented, they should make a realistic Indy-based game. Until then, don't ignore the video game side of a character on a video game site. Why should we actively ignore the only thing that makes them eligible for the contest?
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/29/2009 1:03:01 PM | message detail
They aren't eligible for a contest, and that was the point of expanding the field. We've already seen Pierce Brosnan in match pics before. I fail to see the problem with using the most popular representation. This is like people saying we need to use Lettuce Kefka every year because the FMV stuff comes from a remake. It's a ridiculous and unnecessary restriction. I don't understand why we want to restrict fictional characters in the first place. If we're going to let them in the contest, go all-out with it. Otherwise, don't even bother because it's just a waste of space. There's no point in having Indiana Jones in a contest if we're forced to use video game artwork that is obviously ugly and not true to people's pictures of who they are.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."
HaRRicH | Posted 6/29/2009 1:36:00 PM | message detail
I said "eligible" assuming they were allowed into the contest this year; I'm aware they're not eligible right now. The Kefka-example's bad because Kefka from FMVs is still Square-material for a character that spawned from a video game. People just hated that clown-Kefka was ugly too.

Either way, I think this idea has taken us too far astray from the contest's foundation for me to really support anymore. Interesting, yes, and probably enjoyable, but this isn't a direction I want to see the contests go now. I'll try not to be an open hater about it, but this idea isn't for me.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
HaRRicH | Posted 6/29/2009 2:10:19 PM | message detail
Also, about GE:


1) Wasn't the Brosnan-pic used still in the instruction-booklet and used to promote the game in some fashion? I'm okay with that if he was.

2) If it's not from anything related to GE's game, the point is still that he didn't rely on it and it wasn't the norm -- GE is still four-to-two for game-related pics to regular movie-pics in that scenario, and this is EASILY the best-received game based off of other material. Bond deserves that right the most if it were to work like that, and he still only got it twice. Exceptions happen whether we like it or not, but we can still talk about the principle...and I'm not cool with that becoming the standard if that pic wasn't used somewhere in GE's game-canon.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
RockMFR 5 | Posted 6/29/2009 6:41:09 PM | message detail
Contest winners went up today:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge09.html
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Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0
KrahenProphet did not fall for the FFVII bandwagon!
Applekidjosh | Posted 6/29/2009 6:52:04 PM | message detail
ah, so KP did get a prize. Cool.

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I seem to have prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run...
It must have been when KrahenProphet owned me so hard
HaRRicH | Posted 6/29/2009 7:07:23 PM | message detail
Way to go KP.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/29/2009 8:52:58 PM | message detail
Lots of B8ers taking home the cash, good to see!

And darn it HaR, it's fine to disagree with us in private, but no need to turn that into an anti-sign. That hit me like a punch to the gut, it did!

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KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail!
thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com
Meeks54 | Posted 6/29/2009 9:09:47 PM | message detail
Personally, I hope SB burns for letting Mario 3 cheat like hell in the last update costing me a 50 dollar gift card.
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Applekidjosh | Posted 6/29/2009 9:26:29 PM | message detail
also: the NRT shows that gamefaqs is not ready for a Visual Novel character in the contests... maybe next year!

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I seem to have prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run...
It must have been when KrahenProphet owned me so hard
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/29/2009 9:26:57 PM | message detail
Phoenix Wright's the closest you're gonna get!
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/29/2009 9:44:02 PM | message detail
Yes, I just recently got one 5.09% 287
Yes, I've had one for some time 36.42% 2055
Not yet, but I will as soon as they drop the price 7.13% 402
No, but I plan to buy one eventually 17.19% 970
No, and I don't plan to buy one 34.17% 1928
TOTAL VOTES 5642

Well, this poll result is interesting. Not only has PS3 ownership boosted about 5% from its all time high of 36.59% from the post-Christmas "Got Console?" polls last year, but it seems like the price doesn't seem to be an issue here. Does anyone know the current price for a PS3? If it's still outrageously high, that third poll option should be doing better here, especially considering the bad economy which means a lot more people shouldn't be able to afford a PS3.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!
Mr3790 | Posted 6/29/2009 10:05:25 PM | message detail
Posting for later
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I fell in the Guru Contest, because KrahenProphet was there.
GENO WHIRL!
Gaddswell | Posted 6/30/2009 9:24:43 PM | message detail
Got Wii?
Yes, I just recently got one 2.24% 71
Yes, I've had one for some time 63.79% 2026
Not yet, but probably for some of the new games this fall 0.76% 24
No, but I plan to buy one eventually 6.9% 219
No, and I don't plan to buy one 26.32% 836
TOTAL VOTES 3176

20 minutes in. 66% right now.
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Krahenprophet does. That's why he won the 2009 BGE Guru Contest!
supdawg | Posted 6/30/2009 9:28:27 PM | message detail
no prize :(

oh well...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/1/2009 12:26:08 AM | message detail

From: supdawg | Posted: 7/1/2009 12:28:27 AM | #025
no prize :(

oh well...


Why, because you got banned? That's so lame.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/1/2009 12:59:22 AM | message detail
Oh man, 50.85% update for "Yes, I've had one for some time". Wii is not taking that overnight vote too well here. Wii ownership is down to 63.62% already.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/1/2009 3:00:08 AM | message detail
BTW the Pierce Brosnan pic was used in GoldenEye's file select screen as well, wasn't it?
__Smurf__ | Posted 7/1/2009 3:02:48 AM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #027
Oh man, 50.85% update for "Yes, I've had one for some time". Wii is not taking that overnight vote too well here. Wii ownership is down to 63.62% already.


Y'know I thought this was some parody post of treating a regular poll like a contest poll until I saw who post it. >_>
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voltch | Posted 7/1/2009 3:22:40 AM | message detail
oh tag.
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Silly me for going against Krahenprophet in the guru,he predicted his own victory as well as my doom.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/1/2009 9:50:51 AM | message detail
Y'know I thought this was some parody post of treating a regular poll like a contest poll until I saw who post it. >_>

The worst update for "Yes, I've had one for some time" was a 49.20% update during the night vote at 5:16 AM. It also got two 50.00% updates for its second worst updates of the poll. Now it's pulling in 60%+ updates on a regular basis again.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!
KamikazePotato | Posted 7/1/2009 12:09:26 PM | message detail
Yay 8th place! Yay for the first contest where I didn't do horribly!

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2009 2:27:07 AM | message detail
Sweet! What's that, like 100 bucks?
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!
KamikazePotato | Posted 7/2/2009 10:23:16 AM | message detail
$50. I got 8th.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2009 9:42:19 PM | message detail
Congrats! What you getting?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2009 9:17:14 AM | message detail
elo
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 7/3/2009 9:19:51 AM | message detail
is this the topic with all the nerds
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Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!
charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2009 9:21:50 AM | message detail
So, how about that nomination rally tournament?

Looks like Charizard has its spot more or less locked. I hope Yoshimitsu and Darth Revan make it so we can have some variety, though both will probably be around the fodder line or below it.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest
LeonhartFour | Posted 7/3/2009 9:23:10 AM | message detail
Revan will probably make it. Not sure Yoshimitsu makes it though.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."
charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2009 9:25:29 AM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 7/3/2009 9:26:22 AM | message detail
How many make it through? Four?

I think Charizard is a great choice, but the way it's been tearing through everyone is a bit overkill-y, if you will. I'm hoping for Charizard, Revan, and Cid at least.
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Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg
Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 7/3/2009 9:27:02 AM | message detail
Do I really have to nominate two Pokemon characters
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Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!
paulg235 | Posted 7/3/2009 9:27:20 AM | message detail
Not suprised Yoshimitsu is losing agaisnt Red XIII. How can he when he lost against Revan?
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The Gamer In Me
And that's the bottom line, because KrahenProphet said so.
ZFS | Posted 7/3/2009 9:27:49 AM | message detail
if there's one thing this contest needed it was definitely more pokemon characters

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There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 7/3/2009 9:31:26 AM | message detail
The fact that Cid isn't the clear favorite demonstrates just how big of a Pokemon-kick this board is on. He'd be stronger than Charizard, and he's a liked character. Charizard would probably double him in this nomination rally.
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Yoblazer: http://i42.tinypic.com/avk9ie.jpg
Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!
charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2009 9:37:47 AM | message detail
The board was always big on Charizard. Remember he had one of the largest failed rallies in the previous contest. If Pokemon lost in round 3 to MGS I'd still think Charizard would have won with ease.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest
Yesmar | Posted 7/3/2009 9:38:38 AM | message detail
if there's one thing this contest needed it was definitely more pokemon characters

Yes, because there's so many in the contest currently.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
LeonhartFour | Posted 7/3/2009 9:39:01 AM | message detail
Not suprised Yoshimitsu is losing agaisnt Red XIII.

Uhhh...Yoshimitsu is beating Red XIII. Board 8 thinks supporting two Pokemon characters is fine, but no way should we support two FFVII characters!
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."
LeonhartFour | Posted 7/3/2009 9:40:17 AM | message detail
Yes, because there's so many in the contest currently.

Pikachu
Lucario
Mewtwo
Mudkip

And this was just last year. We had Bidoof the year before that, and Nidoran F the year before that. I'm all for Charizard, personally, but Board 8 and its Pokemon never ceases to amaze me.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 7/3/2009 9:41:57 AM | message detail
Yes, because there's so many in the contest currently.

Exactly how many do you want? It's not like these are Final Fantasy or Mario characters here. If the next bracket has more than three, I'll probably act like a real baby with goo goos and gaa gaas and the questioning of tastes.
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Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg
Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!