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Different format is good, even if it isn't 1v1. 1v1 probably isn't the only possible exciting format, and we know our standard 4-ways are boring. They've gotten stale really fast.
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we know our standard 4-ways are boring.

No, its your opinion they are.
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From: red sox 777 | #151
Different format is good, even if it isn't 1v1. 1v1 probably isn't the only possible exciting format, and we know our standard 4-ways are boring. They've gotten stale really fast.

Pretty much this. Even if it's not 1 on 1, something new to shake things up a bit will be good.
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oh,valkyria chronicles is very well liked on this board,what are this welkin fellow's chances of making the field along with a persona character?
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
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Persona characters have no chance of making it in. Getting the fanbase do decide on just one to rally would be near-impossible.

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only minato even seems to have a shot at making it in too.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
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According to the Krahenprophet, Dweebenheimer!

That's some excellent news- firstly that Characters are not only returning, but that it'll happen sooner rather than later (well "sooner" as in we might be an announcement in the next 2-3 months, which is a reasonable length for this mini off-season), and secondly that he realizes the 4way format has gone stale and will (maybe?) be receptive to new ideas.

As to what the new format will be, I don't think that his wording makes the return of 1v1s impossible. Clearly he likes his new idea and is just excited to spring it on us as a fun "surprise" that he doesn't want spoiled this far ahead of time. Which is fair enough. And after all the uproar a few months back, there's no doubt that he's well aware of how much we like 1v1s- at this point shifting back to them actually WOULD be a surprise, and a pleasant one for us, as he expects it would be.

I've got to imagine though that he's leaning more in the direction of all fictional characters. Doesn't it just seem like the logical next step?

"Dang, the same people always do good in these things, I need to spice them up. I know, we'll do 4 players at a time- and I'll let in L-Block!"

"Whoa, L-Block was a huge success! Let's try it again, but this time with Sandbag and Hogger and Weighted Companion Cube as well; they'll love that!"

"Uh oh, they turned their back on joke characters. I'll have to take it up a notch- Gandalf and Darth Vader, here we come!"


The weird thing is, this time we're actually cheering him on! (Well not Smurf apparently, but yeah.)

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I have to agree with Smurf that I'm not too fond with other fictional characters, but I also hated the idea of joke characters.

What would be interesting is whether people will take this as a videogame character competition rather than a fictional character competition. Remember when many Halo fans supported Castlevania since it was a best series contest rather than a best game contest? If the former is true we could see every single fictional character flop with only a few exceptions.
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Problem with Valkyria Chronicles is too many people seem to like various minor characters as opposed to one big name. Personally I'll be nominating Welkin and Alicia (and no one else from the game).

The idea of Gandalf vs. Link sounds cool. How well do strong video game characters stand up to the best known faces of popular fiction? On the other hand, logging on to see "Gandalf vs. Darth Vader" is less appealing since neither has their fame based on video games. I'm not actually that enthusiastic about another character contest - isn't there something else that could be contested apart from the best game and the best character?

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I think there's a lot of potential in a fictional characters contest, but nevertheless it isn't very appealing to me because I don't really care about the non-videogame fictional characters that are likely to be popular.
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All I know is that if a Fictional Character Contest is announced, I'm immediately starting up the Futurama rally.

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I agree, and that's why I was initially against the idea of having them fully mixed. As we saw from the last Contest, MK64 or SMK would smash any single Mega Man, KH1 or 2 would destroy any Castlevania, Melee or Brawl would stomp all over any Sonic, etc. Yet when you turned it into a "Best Series" battle all of those tightened way up (or even reversed). Voters actually put some thought into their choices and considered the entire series, apparently, and I see the same kind of thing carrying over to this Summer, with the well-liked traditional characters having "respect" or momentum from past years and being overpowered as a result.

Honestly though, I don't think that mindset is going to make all that big a difference in the long run. Sonic and Mega Man command respect as series, but I don't think we feel as strongly about characters, and especially not outside of the NN. I mean I could see Mario edging out a win over Darth Vader thanks to playing the "respect" card, but does anyone feel that strongly about Dante or Kratos or Master Chief? Seems to me plenty of midcarders get by largely on their appealing character design, and just hope to draw favorable opponents outside of that. Those are the kind of situations where bringing in the Wolverines and Harry Potters of the world would make things mighty interesting IMO.

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We'd have to advertise such a contest on many places at the web in order to have the contest be more successful.

I'd like to take this time to say that Harry Potter would be a massive flop/may not make the contest. I also see Darth Vader not doing so well, going the same way as Crono.

Again the title will be very important, if it's a videogame character contest even characters like Batman and Superman will struggle to get out of mid-carders.
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Man, if this next contest is fictional characters, I think that might be enough for me to call it a day on contests. This last one kinda took it out of me as is, but that'd be the dealbreaker right there. Hopefully we don't have one for a while, though.

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whats wrong with a way to freshen up the contests, HM?
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All I know is that if a Fictional Character Contest is announced, I'm immediately starting up the Futurama rally.

Captain Jack Sparrow for a 1 seed, dude!

whats wrong with a way to freshen up the contests, HM?

Here's the thing: The contests don't NEED to be freshened up. A good one-on-one bracket is all we need.
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Here's a 1v1 bracket I made for characters. I might be snubbing some important characters (please tell me if I am), and there are probably too many Nintendo/Square characters, but hey, those 2 companies make for fun matches. No gimmicks, no removals, nothing- just a pure 1v1 bracket.

North

1 Cloud Strife
16 Ken

8 Bowser
9 Leon Kennedy

5 Ike
12 Frog

4 Yoshi
13 Ryu

6 Arthas
11 Gordon Freeman

3 Vincent Valentine
14 Red/Ash

7 Sora
10 Zelda

2 Megaman
15 Phoenix Wright

East

1 Solid Snake
16 Marth

8 Mewtwo
9 Tidus

5 Dante
12 Ryu Hayabusa

4 Charizard
13 Robo

6 Revolver Ocelot
11 Red XIII

3 Samus Aran
14 The Boss

7 L-Block
10 Locke Cole

2 Sephiroth
15 The Prince of Persia

South

1 Link
16 Sackboy

8 Kefka
9 Epona

5 Pikachu
12 Vivi

4 Master Chief
13 Magus

6 Squall Leonhart
11 Meta-Knight

3 Auron
14 Pac-Man

7 Kirby
10 Cid Highwind

2 Sonic the Hedgehog
15 Tommy Vercetti

West

1 Mario
16 CATS

8 Yuna
9 Saria

5 Luigi
12 Zack Fair

4 Big Boss
13 Zero

6 Tifa Lockheart
11 Liquid Snake

3 Ganondorf
14 Riku

7 Fox McCloud
10 Sub-Zero

2 Crono
15 Ness

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Here's the thing: The contests don't NEED to be freshened up. A good one-on-one bracket is all we need.

Simple 1v1 is more stale then 4ways are.
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Saria?

...Really?
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Time to see just how strong OOT really is! I mean, Saria has much more screentime in OOT than Zack has in FFVII, so....
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North

1 Cloud Strife
16 Ken

PLEASE give Ken a winnable match, for cryin' out loud! He deserves that much!

8 Bowser
9 Leon Kennedy

We already saw this in 2006. We don't need to see it again. Don't need to see Cloud/Bowser again either, even if it was 6 years ago.

5 Ike
12 Frog

Heh, ASV comeback in mind, eh? I like it.

4 Yoshi
13 Ryu

Good match. Not sure Ryu would win that one.

6 Arthas
11 Gordon Freeman

Aw yeah Freeman

3 Vincent Valentine
14 Red/Ash

Slaughterhouse

7 Sora
10 Zelda

A good match. I like it.

2 Megaman
15 Phoenix Wright

We don't need to see Mega Man face Sora or Zelda for the second time either.

East

1 Solid Snake
16 Marth

Marth deserves better than a 16 seed here.

8 Mewtwo
9 Aeris Gainsborough

Man, I think Mewtwo's gettin' overhyped if people think he can win this one. I bet a lot of people bite on it.

5 Dante
12 Ryu Hayabusa

Saw this in 2006. Don't need it again.

4 Charizard
13 Robo

Interesting set-up here. Hmmm...

6 Revolver Ocelot
11 Red XIII

Big upset here.

3 Samus Aran
14 The Boss

Aw yeah Female Bracket time

7 L-Block
10 Locke Cole

Please don't do this to Locke, I'm begging you!

2 Sephiroth
15 The Prince of Persia

Well, someone has to get owned by Sephy.

South

1 Link
16 Sackboy

Fine here.

8 Kefka
9 Epona

I'm biting on Epona.

5 Pikachu
12 Vivi

I like this match here. This one has potential.

4 Master Chief
13 Magus

More day vote destruction, though I doubt MC even struggles here.

6 Squall Leonhart
11 Meta-Knight

Meta Knight no match!

3 Auron
14 Pac-Man

Auron no match for Squall next round!

7 Kirby
10 Cid Highwind

Ah, a good match here. We should see what Cid's made of here.

2 Sonic the Hedgehog
15 Tommy Vercetti

I dunno if we need Tommy fodder anymore.

1 Mario
16 CATS

CATS working his way through the Noble Nine still!

8 Yuna
9 Saria

Uhhh...is this supposed to be debatable?

5 Luigi
12 Zack Fair

Luigi wins, but by how much?

4 Big Boss
13 Zero

Oh man, I like this match here.

6 Tifa Lockheart
11 Liquid Snake

FFVII/MGS SFF strikes again! Liquid owned and everyone predicts Tifa to beat Link!

3 Ganondorf
14 Riku

Ganondorf gets owned by Tifa next round!

7 Fox McCloud
10 Sub-Zero

Ah, good match here.

2 Crono
15 Ness

Ness no chance
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Simple 1v1 is more stale then 4ways are.

Says you. We haven't had a good one-on-one bracket in four years.
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Give me a 1 v 1 any day.
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Says you. We haven't had a good one-on-one bracket in four years.

Because it became stale.
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Albion, we haven't had simple 1v1 in 5 years, and no 1v1 at all in 3 years. It ain't stale. Personally, my preference would be to do a truly pure 1v1 contest this fall (as in, no gimmicks, no removals, NOTHING) and then a fictional character battle next year.
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Personally, my preference would be to do a truly pure 1v1 contest this fall (as in, no gimmicks, no removals, NOTHING)

yay for cloud > link final with lots of predictable matches
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Because it became stale.

No, because we had the female bracket in 2006, and we haven't had a one-on-one contest since. A good one-on-one bracket is what this contest needs, not a new gimmick.

Not that I'm ever going to convince you of that, so I won't bother.
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yay for cloud > link final with lots of predictable matches

Ha, here we go.
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Link for contest champ that's right, sir. Bow down to the King of SFF, King of Contests, HE WHO COMES TO TOWN, Your 5 Time Champion, Link!

Wait, did you say Cloud > Link?
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Link for contest champ that's right, sir. Bow down to the King of SFF, King of Contests, HE WHO COMES TO TOWN, Your 5 Time Champion, Link!

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North

1 Cloud Strife
16 Ken

8 Bowser
9 Leon Kennedy

5 Ike
12 Frog

4 Yoshi
13 Ryu

6 Arthas
11 Gordon Freeman

3 Vincent Valentine
14 Red/Ash

7 Sora
10 Zelda

2 Megaman
15 Phoenix Wright

East

1 Solid Snake
16 Marth

8 Mewtwo
9 Tidus

5 Dante
12 Ryu Hayabusa

4 Charizard
13 Robo

6 Revolver Ocelot
11 Red XIII

3 Samus Aran
14 The Boss

7 L-Block
10 Locke Cole

2 Sephiroth
15 The Prince of Persia

South

1 Link
16 Sackboy

8 Kefka
9 Epona

5 Pikachu
12 Vivi

4 Master Chief
13 Magus

6 Squall Leonhart
11 Meta-Knight

3 Auron
14 Pac-Man

7 Kirby
10 Cid Highwind

2 Sonic the Hedgehog
15 Tommy Vercetti

West

1 Mario
16 CATS

8 Yuna
9 Saria (who?)

5 Luigi
12 Zack Fair

4 Big Boss
13 Zero

6 Tifa Lockheart
11 Liquid Snake

3 Ganondorf
14 Riku

7 Fox McCloud
10 Sub-Zero

2 Crono
15 Ness

FINAL ROUNDS

1 Cloud Strife
2 Mega Man

1 Solid Snake (believe)
2 Sephiroth

1 Link
6 Squall Leonhart

1 Mario
2 Crono

Too much SFF IMO, but still a good bracket.
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so basically you want the exact same contest every single year. I got bored of 1v1s and stopped paying attention to it after 2005, and didn't even vote for a single match in the series contest cuz I didnt even know it happened till afterwards, but then I found out about 4ways and my interest renewed

please god don't go to that boring ass format
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Agreed that you can't call something we haven't seen in 3+ years "stale". I do like the all fictional idea, but I would be fine with a 1v1 this year and then spicing things up with that next time around. Or the same but in the opposite order; either's cool by me.

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If the contest is too stale for anyone maybe they should think about leaving, they've obviously out-grew the contest.
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Zack still being underestimated I see. He'll show you! Also, Mario/Crono could be good this year (seriously, and not in the CT-hopefest kind of way). Part of it is the same reason that I think Bowser/Leon is debatable now- Mario characters have fallen off a sizable amount since 2006.
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If the contest is too stale for anyone maybe they should think about leaving, they've obviously out-grew the contest.

which is what I did after 2005 till 4ways started, as mentioned
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so basically you want the exact same contest every single year.

So do you. You just want something different.
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That was more to everyone on this topic rather than one person.
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which is what I did after 2005 till 4ways started, as mentioned

Why the **** would anyone leave after 2005? If you can't enjoy '05, what can you enjoy?
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Why the **** would anyone leave after 2005? If you can't enjoy '05, what can you enjoy?

The contests were becoming the same year after year, and 1v1 was stale to me. 1vf1 is gonna be stale regardless.
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Albion just finds different things exciting than most of us do. I can't speak for the rest of you, but for me at least, the thing that makes the contest (and other games or sports) so exciting is the idea of winning, that is, of characters I like winning. There is often no way to truly win in 4-ways, and no way to truly lose. Games that preclude winning and losing to me are boring. An exciting contest requires opportunity for both.
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Yeah, I for one don't give a damn about legitimacy. All I care about is exciting matches that I can't easily predict, and 4ways gives me that over 1v1.
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 6/14/2009 1:02:16 AM | #197
Yeah, I for one don't give a damn about legitimacy. All I care about is exciting matches that I can't easily predict, and 4ways gives me that over 1v1.

If 1v1s are so easy, I'd like to know what games you got with past prize money from them.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!

As far as the bracket goes, Bowser/Leon is actually a good match; Bowser may have won in '06 but Leon is the stat favorite. And we need to see how much Mega Man's strength has diminished by seeing him against a high midcarder, so gogogo.

Oh yeah, and it would be funny if Gordon Freeman avoided a doubling from a Noble Niner (though his game did almost break 40% on a high midcarder, so...).

Yeah 1 on 1 is a bit stale; I agree with MyWorldIsCrono. Well, I wasn't around back then, but 4-ways just seem more exciting. Though I don't care if we move back to 1 on 1.

red sox 777 | Posted 6/14/2009 12:13:03 AM | message detail
Here's a 1v1 bracket I made for characters. I might be snubbing some important characters (please tell me if I am), and there are probably too many Nintendo/Square characters, but hey, those 2 companies make for fun matches. No gimmicks, no removals, nothing- just a pure 1v1 bracket.

Stop using the 1-16 seeding format. The 1-8 seeding format is much more likely to be used instead if Bacon really does give us a 1v1 contest. The 1-16 seeding format was last used in the 2004 Summer Contest. After that, the 1-8 seeding format was used instead for all remaining 1v1 contests.

Anyways, I've been all over the 1-8 seeding format for months now.
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