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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 751

ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 9:20:05 PM | message detail
Golden Sun below average RPG at best tbqh

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:20:22 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think removing Golden Sun from the Games Contest was a very poor judgement call on all our parts.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:20:53 PM | message detail
Yeah, putting a Nintendo handheld game into a poll with two big Nintendo series, this may have been a mistake.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:21:36 PM | message detail
Well, Golden Sun was a Nintendo handheld game too.

...But Fire Emblem never led Final Fantasy and Metroid in a poll.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:21:56 PM | message detail
It's not a Nintendo series though, is it?
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FFDragon | Posted 6/11/2009 9:22:39 PM | message detail

From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 6/11/2009 11:43:45 PM | #039
Claire Redfield - is she in any of the new games?


Resident Evil Degeneration (Movie) and Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles (Wii)
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:23:15 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think removing Golden Sun from the Games Contest was a very poor judgement call on all our parts.

Yeah, first of all why bring back Fire Emblem and second of all why put it in a Nintendo match. At least Golden Sun is different enough to not be affected as much by Nintendo SFF.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:23:50 PM | message detail
It essentially is. Less Nintendo than Fire Emblem, but more than Sonic or Mega Man.

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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:24:05 PM | message detail
Also Metroid with the board vote.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:24:10 PM | message detail
Yeah, but we've seen that not actually being Nintendo means you don't get LFF'd!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:24:49 PM | message detail
Man, now I'm imagining Melee>Golden Sun>Wind Waker by a hair and now I'm all sad that it never had a chance to happen.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:25:39 PM | message detail
Those Fire Emblem fanboys are just self-destructive by nature.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/11/2009 9:26:44 PM | message detail
Hey, I never supported giving in to the whiny Fire Emblem fans. Your game got its chance. Be fair and give someone else a chance too.

In regards to Returners and the Rally Tournament:

Why not just mix them in with the other characters being rallied for? It's not like there's that many characters left to be rallied for that need the spot anymore.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:27:20 PM | message detail
You know as impressive as this is it's barely beating a MMORPG.

lol franchise voting.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:27:36 PM | message detail
I'm not even seeing the point of having a NRT in the first place, but I suppose I'll do one since people want one.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:29:37 PM | message detail
Why not just mix them in with the other characters being rallied for? It's not like there's that many characters left to be rallied for that need the spot anymore.

Could work, keeping them separate is basically giving Ken a free pass to be nominated. At least Raiden had Fox to compete with.
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Master Moltar | Posted 6/11/2009 9:29:59 PM | message detail
Golden Sun first beating the superior Metroid and Galaxy 2 under 10%?!?!?!??!??

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:30:35 PM | message detail
Galaxy 2 being LFF'd by those NSMBW weirdos!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:33:01 PM | message detail
Keep in mind that Golden Sun has been dead for like, 5 years. Fans gave up hope on ever seeing a sequel. And then when it finally does get announced, it's "btw, here's Golden Sun DS. Here's a trailer that shows nothing. Moving right along..."

So all of these votes are coming from dedicated Golden Sun fans.

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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:34:13 PM | message detail
No wonder Isaac did so well against Lucario

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xp1337 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:35:29 PM | message detail
I always thought that Golden Sun would do better in that spot than Fire Emblem could ever hope. Even if you believe Fire Emblem is stronger than Golden Sun directly, that was always the most horrible match that Fire Emblem could get.

I mean, look at that pack from Fire Emblem's point of view:

Wind Waker: Zelda/Nintendo SFF
SSBM: Nintendo SFF, plus SSBM is arguably Fire Emblem's worst possible opponent. Remember, SSBM is pretty much single-handedly responsible for getting Fire Emblem to come to North America.
Disgaea: Even Disgaea isn't helpful, because it's also a Strategy RPG and could cause overlap within the genre.

Golden Sun still runs into Nintendo SFF problems, but that was just a horrible place for Fire Emblem, and I'm not sure why anyone would want to put it there. Well, actually, I was all for allowing Disgaea to beat something, so there was that, but otherwise...
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Yesmar | Posted 6/11/2009 9:35:58 PM | message detail
I have always supported Isaac. He looked to be just above the fodder line in '03 not counting possible SFF, and was stuck against Nintendo handheld RPG characters the past two years. Hardly the best draw for him.
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Big Bob | Posted 6/11/2009 9:42:07 PM | message detail
I think the Brawl "de-boost" just looks odd because all the newcomers were put up against people with uncertain strength.
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transience | Posted 6/11/2009 9:50:42 PM | message detail
the top 100 suggests Golden Sun > Metroid on this website, at least according to hype

Galaxy 2 adding insult to injury with how pathetically weak the original is
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:51:15 PM | message detail
Looks like FFXIV has this.
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transience | Posted 6/11/2009 9:51:17 PM | message detail
I think the biggest surprise of this poll is how easily Rising is beating Peace Walker. talk about a console bias.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:52:10 PM | message detail
More like Rising > Peace Walker

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:52:38 PM | message detail
Or fans have wised up to Raiden>Big Boss!

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PiGuy96 | Posted 6/11/2009 10:01:00 PM | message detail
Console bias in a poll that Golden Sun DS is freakishly competitive in? Nah, this is "who cares about the PSP" bias.
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ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:01:55 PM | message detail
Golden Sun is the exception here, not the rule.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:17:26 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2928

Apparently, Peace Walker is improving on the last MGS PSP outing. (also look at that hilarious FF franchise voting)

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transience | Posted 6/11/2009 10:21:35 PM | message detail
yeah, it's some of that too, but Rising over Peace Walker is like NSMB Wii over Galaxy 2. it just doesn't mesh. I think Metroid will pass Golden Sun before this is over anyway. these niche RPGs always die after the first hour. Golden Sun's legit though. it's not strong or anything, but it has that same TWEWY-esque core DS fanbase.

I'm convinced this poll is just here to insult the people who took Galaxy over Brawl. just when you think it can't get worse, it does.
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ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:24:32 PM | message detail
Portable Ops Plus not even a real MGS game!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:27:57 PM | message detail
but Rising over Peace Walker is like NSMB Wii over Galaxy 2. it just doesn't mesh.

You can't just look at it as Big Boss vs. Raiden. Peace Walker is just another MGS PSP game - there's been like 4 of those already. Rising is the first Metal Gear game in a long time that's going to go multiplatform - it's got the 360 backing.

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ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:30:38 PM | message detail
Peace Walker is just another MGS PSP game

This isn't true at all. Peace Walker is essentially MGS5, it's the real deal as far as the series goes. Kojima's got no meaningful role in Rising, while he's directing, writing, and designing PW. Rising's just getting the nod here because it's on a console.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:32:29 PM | message detail
How many gamers know all that, though? Most people don't pay super close attention to E3. They just go "Handheld Metal Gear game...or a console Metal Gear game I can actually play this time."

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:33:18 PM | message detail
And it looks like Metroid is the one dying off. Let's see how close the Mario games get to it by the end of the day.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/11/2009 10:33:26 PM | message detail
Maybe you could use the Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime comparison instead. Prime went to a new studio, took a different direction gameplay style-wise, and was on a console. Fusion was done by the Super Metroid team and had a better fit in the main games' timeline while seemingly retaining the classic style. Prime got way more hype before they came out though.
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ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:34:21 PM | message detail
Well, Kojima said it repeatedly at Sony's conference. The whole point here is that Rising is doing better because it's on a console, and it's not doing better than it already is because the teaser consisted of a pic of Raiden that we had seen for a couple of weeks already. If Peace Walker were the console game, it'd probably be winning the poll right now.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:37:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, and how many gamers actually watch the conferences?

There's no doubt that Rising winning comes down to console vs. handheld. I'm just saying Rising>Peace Walker 'not meshing' doesn't make much sense.

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ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:38:37 PM | message detail
Man, we just had a poll asking who had the best press conference.


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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:40:23 PM | message detail
No, we had a poll asking which company 'had the best E3'. Which basically boils down to looking at the lists of stuff announced and choosing your favorite list. It's what I did.

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ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:41:25 PM | message detail
Oh, I guess that was just E3 in general. I know we've had 'em before... yeah, here's last years -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3180

I'd say plenty of people keep with at least the press conferences every year, even if they don't follow what comes after.

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Gaddswell | Posted 6/11/2009 11:00:33 PM | message detail
Wow Golden Sun!

Beating out NSMB, SMG2, and Other M, and hanging in close with FF14 for first?

I'm impressed.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 11:10:34 PM | message detail
Or fans have wised up to Raiden>Big Boss!

No, that would be stupiding up!

darn those xobox fanboys voting for raiden

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/11/2009 11:12:43 PM | message detail
the biggest surprise of this poll is that 2 highly touted Metal Gear Solid games that got a lot of press time at e3 are being beat out by an average RPG series that got nothing but a short trailer, then nobody seemed to even care about it afterwards.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 11:13:21 PM | message detail
LFF, man! LFF!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 11:14:22 PM | message detail
Add them together and they beat Golden Sun by a hair. Before the wonderful MGS day vote.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/11/2009 11:18:28 PM | message detail
A Final Fantasy MMO is the most anticipated new game on the site? Haven't people learned their lesson from FFXI yet?

More surprising though is Golden Sun beating Metroid straight up and the two Mario/MGS options combined. This is wild!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 11:20:17 PM | message detail
I'm convinced that a good chunk of voters just don't know that FFXIV is an MMORPG. Stick (sequel to FFXI) next to it and it does a lot worse.

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