GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 751
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 9:20:05 PM | message detail |
Golden Sun below average RPG at best tbqh --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:20:22 PM | message detail |
I'm starting to think removing Golden Sun from the Games Contest was a very poor judgement call on all our parts. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:20:53 PM | message detail |
Yeah, putting a Nintendo handheld game into a poll with two big Nintendo series, this may have been a mistake. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:21:36 PM | message detail |
Well, Golden Sun was a Nintendo handheld game too. ...But Fire Emblem never led Final Fantasy and Metroid in a poll. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:21:56 PM | message detail |
It's not a Nintendo series though, is it? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
FFDragon | Posted 6/11/2009 9:22:39 PM | message detail |
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 6/11/2009 11:43:45 PM | #039 Resident Evil Degeneration (Movie) and Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles (Wii) --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/krahenprophet.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:23:15 PM | message detail |
I'm starting to think removing Golden Sun from the Games Contest was a very poor judgement call on all our parts. Yeah, first of all why bring back Fire Emblem and second of all why put it in a Nintendo match. At least Golden Sun is different enough to not be affected as much by Nintendo SFF. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:23:50 PM | message detail |
It essentially is. Less Nintendo than Fire Emblem, but more than Sonic or Mega Man. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:24:05 PM | message detail |
Also Metroid with the board vote. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:24:10 PM | message detail |
Yeah, but we've seen that not actually being Nintendo means you don't get LFF'd! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:24:49 PM | message detail |
Man, now I'm imagining Melee>Golden Sun>Wind Waker by a hair and now I'm all sad that it never had a chance to happen. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:25:39 PM | message detail |
Those Fire Emblem fanboys are just self-destructive by nature. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
Yesmar | Posted 6/11/2009 9:26:44 PM | message detail |
Hey,
I never supported giving in to the whiny Fire Emblem fans. Your game
got its chance. Be fair and give someone else a chance too. In regards to Returners and the Rally Tournament: Why not just mix them in with the other characters being rallied for? It's not like there's that many characters left to be rallied for that need the spot anymore. --- KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it. |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:27:20 PM | message detail |
You know as impressive as this is it's barely beating a MMORPG. lol franchise voting. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:27:36 PM | message detail |
I'm not even seeing the point of having a NRT in the first place, but I suppose I'll do one since people want one. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:29:37 PM | message detail |
Why
not just mix them in with the other characters being rallied for? It's
not like there's that many characters left to be rallied for that need
the spot anymore. Could work, keeping them separate is basically giving Ken a free pass to be nominated. At least Raiden had Fox to compete with. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
Master Moltar | Posted 6/11/2009 9:29:59 PM | message detail |
Golden Sun first beating the superior Metroid and Galaxy 2 under 10%?!?!?!??!?? http://i39.tinypic.com/2luc4rm.gif --- Moltar Status: ALL HAIL KrahenProphet Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 9:30:35 PM | message detail |
Galaxy 2 being LFF'd by those NSMBW weirdos! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:33:01 PM | message detail |
Keep
in mind that Golden Sun has been dead for like, 5 years. Fans gave up
hope on ever seeing a sequel. And then when it finally does get
announced, it's "btw, here's Golden Sun DS. Here's a trailer that shows
nothing. Moving right along..." So all of these votes are coming from dedicated Golden Sun fans. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:34:13 PM | message detail |
No wonder Isaac did so well against Lucario Brawl de-boost de-confirmed! --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
xp1337 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:35:29 PM | message detail |
I always
thought that Golden Sun would do better in that spot than Fire Emblem
could ever hope. Even if you believe Fire Emblem is stronger than
Golden Sun directly, that was always the most horrible match that Fire
Emblem could get. I mean, look at that pack from Fire Emblem's point of view: Wind Waker: Zelda/Nintendo SFF SSBM: Nintendo SFF, plus SSBM is arguably Fire Emblem's worst possible opponent. Remember, SSBM is pretty much single-handedly responsible for getting Fire Emblem to come to North America. Disgaea: Even Disgaea isn't helpful, because it's also a Strategy RPG and could cause overlap within the genre. Golden Sun still runs into Nintendo SFF problems, but that was just a horrible place for Fire Emblem, and I'm not sure why anyone would want to put it there. Well, actually, I was all for allowing Disgaea to beat something, so there was that, but otherwise... --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
Yesmar | Posted 6/11/2009 9:35:58 PM | message detail |
I
have always supported Isaac. He looked to be just above the fodder line
in '03 not counting possible SFF, and was stuck against Nintendo
handheld RPG characters the past two years. Hardly the best draw for
him. --- KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it. |
Big Bob | Posted 6/11/2009 9:42:07 PM | message detail |
I think the Brawl "de-boost" just looks odd because all the newcomers were put up against people with uncertain strength. --- Congrats to KrahenProphet! Blazblue, June 30th: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcdCKfwsFM |
transience | Posted 6/11/2009 9:50:42 PM | message detail |
the top 100 suggests Golden Sun > Metroid on this website, at least according to hype Galaxy 2 adding insult to injury with how pathetically weak the original is --- xyzzy OCARINA OF TIME I HATE YOU but Krakenprophet knows what's up |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:51:15 PM | message detail |
Looks like FFXIV has this. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
transience | Posted 6/11/2009 9:51:17 PM | message detail |
I think the biggest surprise of this poll is how easily Rising is beating Peace Walker. talk about a console bias. --- xyzzy OCARINA OF TIME I HATE YOU but Krakenprophet knows what's up |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/11/2009 9:52:10 PM | message detail |
More like Rising > Peace Walker >_> --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 9:52:38 PM | message detail |
Or fans have wised up to Raiden>Big Boss! --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
PiGuy96 | Posted 6/11/2009 10:01:00 PM | message detail |
Console bias in a poll that Golden Sun DS is freakishly competitive in? Nah, this is "who cares about the PSP" bias. --- RPGuy netbook remix |
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:01:55 PM | message detail |
Golden Sun is the exception here, not the rule. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:17:26 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2928 Apparently, Peace Walker is improving on the last MGS PSP outing. (also look at that hilarious FF franchise voting) --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
transience | Posted 6/11/2009 10:21:35 PM | message detail |
yeah,
it's some of that too, but Rising over Peace Walker is like NSMB Wii
over Galaxy 2. it just doesn't mesh. I think Metroid will pass Golden
Sun before this is over anyway. these niche RPGs always die after the
first hour. Golden Sun's legit though. it's not strong or anything, but
it has that same TWEWY-esque core DS fanbase. I'm convinced this poll is just here to insult the people who took Galaxy over Brawl. just when you think it can't get worse, it does. --- xyzzy OCARINA OF TIME I HATE YOU but Krakenprophet knows what's up |
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:24:32 PM | message detail |
Portable Ops Plus not even a real MGS game! --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:27:57 PM | message detail |
but Rising over Peace Walker is like NSMB Wii over Galaxy 2. it just doesn't mesh. You can't just look at it as Big Boss vs. Raiden. Peace Walker is just another MGS PSP game - there's been like 4 of those already. Rising is the first Metal Gear game in a long time that's going to go multiplatform - it's got the 360 backing. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:30:38 PM | message detail |
Peace Walker is just another MGS PSP game This isn't true at all. Peace Walker is essentially MGS5, it's the real deal as far as the series goes. Kojima's got no meaningful role in Rising, while he's directing, writing, and designing PW. Rising's just getting the nod here because it's on a console. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:32:29 PM | message detail |
How
many gamers know all that, though? Most people don't pay super close
attention to E3. They just go "Handheld Metal Gear game...or a console
Metal Gear game I can actually play this time." --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:33:18 PM | message detail |
And it looks like Metroid is the one dying off. Let's see how close the Mario games get to it by the end of the day. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/11/2009 10:33:26 PM | message detail |
Maybe
you could use the Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime comparison instead.
Prime went to a new studio, took a different direction gameplay
style-wise, and was on a console. Fusion was done by the Super Metroid
team and had a better fit in the main games' timeline while seemingly
retaining the classic style. Prime got way more hype before they came
out though. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. I believed in LttP. Krahenprophet believed in OoT. Only he remained alive to tell the tale. |
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:34:21 PM | message detail |
Well,
Kojima said it repeatedly at Sony's conference. The whole point here is
that Rising is doing better because it's on a console, and it's not
doing better than it already is because the teaser consisted of a pic
of Raiden that we had seen for a couple of weeks already. If Peace
Walker were the console game, it'd probably be winning the poll right
now. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:37:28 PM | message detail |
Yeah, and how many gamers actually watch the conferences? There's no doubt that Rising winning comes down to console vs. handheld. I'm just saying Rising>Peace Walker 'not meshing' doesn't make much sense. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:38:37 PM | message detail |
Man, we just had a poll asking who had the best press conference. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 10:40:23 PM | message detail |
No,
we had a poll asking which company 'had the best E3'. Which basically
boils down to looking at the lists of stuff announced and choosing your
favorite list. It's what I did. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 6/11/2009 10:41:25 PM | message detail |
Oh,
I guess that was just E3 in general. I know we've had 'em before...
yeah, here's last years --
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3180 I'd say plenty of people keep with at least the press conferences every year, even if they don't follow what comes after. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
Gaddswell | Posted 6/11/2009 11:00:33 PM | message detail |
Wow Golden Sun! Beating out NSMB, SMG2, and Other M, and hanging in close with FF14 for first? I'm impressed. --- http://fc93.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/026/9/3/Ike_Climbers1_by_MGSFan4ever.png Thanks Anagram! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 11:10:34 PM | message detail |
Or fans have wised up to Raiden>Big Boss! No, that would be stupiding up! darn those xobox fanboys voting for raiden Master Chief/Raiden LFF confirmed --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/11/2009 11:12:43 PM | message detail |
the
biggest surprise of this poll is that 2 highly touted Metal Gear Solid
games that got a lot of press time at e3 are being beat out by an
average RPG series that got nothing but a short trailer, then nobody
seemed to even care about it afterwards. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg Krahenprophet is my little butterfly! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/11/2009 11:13:21 PM | message detail |
LFF, man! LFF! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 11:14:22 PM | message detail |
Add them together and they beat Golden Sun by a hair. Before the wonderful MGS day vote. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/11/2009 11:18:28 PM | message detail |
A Final Fantasy MMO is the most anticipated new game on the site? Haven't people learned their lesson from FFXI yet? More surprising though is Golden Sun beating Metroid straight up and the two Mario/MGS options combined. This is wild! --- KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/11/2009 11:20:17 PM | message detail |
I'm
convinced that a good chunk of voters just don't know that FFXIV is an
MMORPG. Stick (sequel to FFXI) next to it and it does a lot worse. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |