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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 751

charmander6000 | Posted 6/23/2009 3:48:51 PM | message detail
I guess.

I wonder how well Wii Sports would have done, one way it's the sign of "New" Nintendo and everything that's wrong with it, yet on the other hand it's the most sold game ever.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 3:50:28 PM | message detail
Sports games don't do well here, not even something as widely played as Wii Sports.
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Meeks54 | Posted 6/23/2009 3:52:03 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #407
FFX would have lost to Melee, Brawl, Pokemon, MGS and a case could have been made for TP.




Sure
Without a doubt.
Most definitely, but so would every game except OoT or FF VII.
Damn Snake Fanboys and them making crazy stupid statements.
TP would have beat it easy I assume.



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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 3:52:35 PM | message detail
MWC post
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/23/2009 3:53:58 PM | message detail

From: Meeks54 | #453
Damn Snake Fanboys and them making crazy stupid statements.


MGS did better on OoT in round 3 than FFX did in round 5.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/23/2009 3:54:09 PM | message detail
Wii Sports woulda been interesting. I know sports games aren't typically played here, but look at Punch Out... its an obscure old sports game by Nintendo that actually almost advanced. I'd imagine Wii Sport would be a lot stronger.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 3:54:35 PM | message detail
Losing to Donkey Kong isn't something to brag about.
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ZFS | Posted 6/23/2009 3:55:11 PM | message detail
Punch-Out losing to Donkey Kong might be the best example of why sports games of any kind are shunned here.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/23/2009 3:57:19 PM | message detail
I'm just saying to expect more out of it then madden or tecmo
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 3:58:25 PM | message detail
It's not hard to expect more than a rock bottom game or series.
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Meeks54 | Posted 6/23/2009 3:59:08 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #455
MGS did better on OoT in round 3 than FFX did in round 5.




OoT round 3 was also about the dumbest match in the contest.

You know, unless you believe Pokemon MGS and FF VIII>ALttP, FF X, and FF VII.

Since I am sure you don't believe that (you know what, you are Charmander, you just might believe that) we can agree that round 3 match is useless.

By the way, how did Pokemon not being top 10 work out for you?
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Yesmar | Posted 6/23/2009 4:01:46 PM | message detail
Asking 40% to vote for Wario?

Asking 40% to vote for a character with 5 minutes of screentime and a PSP game?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 4:04:06 PM | message detail
Asking 40% to vote for a character with 5 minutes of screentime and a PSP game?

Gotta remember where those five minutes of screen time are found.

Hint: It's not Super Mario Land 2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 4:04:36 PM | message detail
Seriously though, Zack is very likable. Wario, not so much.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/23/2009 4:07:14 PM | message detail

From: Meeks54 | #461
OoT round 3 was also about the dumbest match in the contest.

You know, unless you believe Pokemon MGS and FF VIII>ALttP, FF X, and FF VII.

Since I am sure you don't believe that (you know what, you are a Charmander, you just might believe that) we can agree that round 3 match is useless.

By the way, how did Pokemon not being top 10 work out for you?


Why is OoT in round 3 the dumbest match of the contest?

FFX > FFVIII is proved from round 3 and 5, FFVII > all three is proved from round 6 and the bonus poll and LttP is behind SFF and LFF and has no true value, especially compare to the bottom half.

No I don't believe that and how does me being a Pokemon make me less credible? Please give an argument to why that match was useless.

While Pokemon is "officially" in the top 10 you could make an argument that LttP and friends are stronger than indicated which would push it to number 10-12.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 4:07:42 PM | message detail
Why is OoT in round 3 the dumbest match of the contest?

MWC post, abandon ship now, char.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/23/2009 6:10:46 PM | message detail
OOT's round 3 match is fine. Pokemon and MGS are just stronger than people expected them to be. LTTP did about the same on FFVII with 2 other Nintendo games as FFX did on OOT with Brawl, so it's plenty far above the non-Pokemon games in the bottom half of the bracket. LTTP/RBY is debatable, and I look forward greatly to CT/RBY, if we ever get 1v1s again!

As for Zack, I don't understand why people thought Wario or Shadow could beat him. Who actually likes Wario? Who actually likes Shadow (more than Link)? Besides, it was a palette swap of Cloud against a palette swap of Mario or a palette swap of Sonic. No major Mario game was scheduled to be released the day of the match. I never understood how Peach was the guru favorite against Fox either.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/23/2009 6:15:48 PM | message detail
Who actually likes Zack? Don't be fooled by the fanboys on this board. It's not like Wario was any weaker than anyone suspected.

And, Shadow definitely gets support aside from being a palette swap. He has great character design aside from that, and is the co-star of what is possibly the most popular Sonic game.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/23/2009 6:23:04 PM | message detail
Plenty of FFVII fans like Zack, just as plenty of people like Aeris, Red XIII, Barret, etc. Most of the Mario fanbase dislikes Wario. The only match Zack was in that should have been highly debatable was the match against Mario with Link and MMX in there.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/23/2009 6:45:40 PM | message detail
Shadow was in no 2D-Sonic game.

It shouldn't be surprising MGS is this strong, either. 2004 had MGS facing FF7, then 2004's CB was a terrible year for Solid Snake, then MGS3 came along to a great reception, then Nintendo announced Solid for SSBB, then MGS3:S came out to more great reception, then the Dojo opened as people waited more eagerly for Solid info, then SSBB came and won the GotY last year, then MGS4 came and took runner-up for the GotY last year...very few series saw their stock rise like MGS did in the past five years, and MGS is the series's biggest game while coming from the strongest era. We probably should have seen an increase in strength coming...which makes RBY look all the more impressive.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 7:14:10 PM | message detail
Who actually likes Zack?

*raises hand*
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/23/2009 7:22:25 PM | message detail
@red sox 777: Peach was the Guru favorite against Fox because (this is only my assumption) according to the 2006 stats she's stronger than Luigi, and Luigi would definetely beat Fox, so...plus, a Star Fox character beating a Mario character would be weird anyway. Yeah, even I'M not a big fan of Peach or Wario (though I do like using both characters in Brawl).

I have to think this site has largely dropped Mario; that's the only explanation for SMG losing to a wartime FPS, because Mario Galaxy has loads of critical acclaim (it's never been outside of the top thirty in any Best Game Ever list I've seen) and Mario is one of this site's three big franchises, so...no wonder Mario flopped so badly against Smash. It's possible that Smash rSFFd it in that match (which is ironic since Super Mario Sunshine is more critically acclaimed than Melee, but whatever), and I absolutely hate that. I actually get tired of Smash faster than most other Nintendo games, though me not having many friends to play with doesn't help.
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2009 7:25:45 PM | message detail
according to the 2006 stats she's stronger than Luigi

*snickers*
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/23/2009 7:26:32 PM | message detail
Peach was supposed to be stronger than Luigi? Well, I suppose Jill did do better on Squall than Luigi did, and then there was Samus/Tifa. Oh, well in that case.....

lol x-stats
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/23/2009 7:33:45 PM | message detail
Another NRT-topic, another quick division:


1- Cid Highwind (Final Fantasy VII)
8- Andrew Ryan (BioShock)
4- Psycho Mantis (Metal Gear Solid)
5- Roy (Fire Emblem)
3- Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V)
6- Cammy (Super Street Fighter II)
2- Darth Revan (Knights of the Old Republic)
7- Glass Joe (Punch-Out!!)
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/23/2009 10:34:09 PM | message detail
I think they'd have an amazing day vote. the day (around 8 am) started at 29% hasn't played any of them, now its down to 25%. That seems like KH/halo kind of day vote

They should have a good day vote. I know that "I've never played one of those games" barely won the BSV over Guitar and that was because of Europe. Guitar won all of the other voting blocks, though. The Geolocation results would only prove that this is the case. So Rock Band/Guitar Hero should be expected to be weak with the Europe vote. In almost every part of the world, the result was I've never played one of those games > Guitar with the exception of North America and Oceania.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/23/2009 10:42:15 PM | message detail
I love how the NRT is more fun than the actual character contest.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 6/24/2009 2:40:35 PM | message detail
@red sox 777: Peach was the Guru favorite against Fox because (this is only my assumption) according to the 2006 stats she's stronger than Luigi, and Luigi would definetely beat Fox, so...plus, a Star Fox character beating a Mario character would be weird anyway. Yeah, even I'M not a big fan of Peach or Wario (though I do like using both characters in Brawl).

Peach was not the guru favorite over Fox. Where did you guys get that idea?

Group Winner
Sephiroth - 182 (99.45%)
Peach - 1 (0.55%)
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Second Place
Fox McCloud - 90 (49.18%)
Peach - 63 (34.43%)
Wario - 20 (10.93%)
Captain Falcon - 1 (0.55%)
CATS - 4 (2.19%)
Banjo - 1 (0.55%)
Meta Knight - 3 (1.64%)
Sephiroth - 1 (0.55%)


She was close for some reason (seriously people, why?), but she wasn't the favorite.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/25/2009 6:03:15 AM | message detail
I think she was favored because we hadn't seen Fox in a long time and didn't really trust him against another Mario-character.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/25/2009 6:03:38 AM | message detail
Er...not favored, but had as much support as she did. Whatever.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/25/2009 10:57:45 AM | message detail
Who cares about Peach? C'mon now!
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/26/2009 10:08:49 PM | message detail
Looks like more people are interested in the DS now than they were after Christmas.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3347
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/27/2009 12:23:25 AM | message detail
You know, if the next character battle is extended to include all fictional characters that have appeared in video games, I have an idea for a joke character that could participate in it.

Captain Planet. It would not only act as a joke character, but it would have a lot of fad power to draw in votes from. That's got to be a very dangerous combination as the fad is also quite popular here on GameFAQs.

Captain Planet is a playable character in the NES game "Captain Planet and the Planeteers".
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voltch | Posted 6/27/2009 2:13:52 AM | message detail
so,how much of a shot does jack from madworld have of getting in,valkyria chronicles,prototype,InFamous mains don't look so hot but madworld looks bloody enough to get a no more heroes kind of support,which is fodder,but still in the contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/27/2009 10:45:16 AM | message detail
Captain Planet would get owned and rightfully so.

...I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it, as long as he fights someone nasty like...Pigpen from Peanuts?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/27/2009 1:40:59 PM | message detail
Captain Planet would get owned and rightfully so.

It's not going to be as strong as L-Block or Weighted Companion Cube, but it should be strong enough to make the second round and go out then.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2009 6:23:07 PM | message detail
Captain Planet? Seriously?

Man we're desperate.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/27/2009 9:26:44 PM | message detail
I know some people here aren't really into the idea of having L-Block or Weighted Companion Cube returning to the contests again this year, so we'll need to come up with new joke character ideas to take their place.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/27/2009 9:27:41 PM | message detail
captain planet would get 4chan supported
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voltch | Posted 6/28/2009 5:23:08 AM | message detail
i think people are just trying to find another powerjoke character to rally so that if they succeed they'll feel as though they can claim credit for starting the rally....i mean we don't really need jokes apart from CATS.
The king of all cosmos,carmen sandiego and manny calavera felt more niche/cult than joke.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/28/2009 5:58:50 AM | message detail
CATS would beat Captain Planet.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2009 9:49:10 AM | message detail
Captain Planet would do okay for a fictional character, but I don't expect much from the non-elites in that category and he'll be ****ed if he has to use an in-game shot (like I hope every fictional character uses unless they have official game-inspired art).
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/28/2009 10:48:09 AM | message detail
but I don't expect much from the non-elites in that category and he'll be ****ed if he has to use an in-game shot (like I hope every fictional character uses unless they have official game-inspired art).

That is a problem for Captain Planet since his most well known game would be the one on the NES and the graphics wouldn't be that great at all. There is an Amiga and Genesis version, but both of them were only released in Europe (according to GameFAQs).

Actually, this is also a problem for characters like Brock or Misty if only in-game shots are allowed (and not official game-inspired art). So they'll be stuck with sprites.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2009 10:50:08 AM | message detail
Maybe so, but it'd be quite unfair to feature the Joker with a Heath Ledger-pic when people don't give much of a damn about Batman games.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2009 11:03:39 AM | message detail
Why in the world do we have to make it about the games they're in anyway? That defeats the purpose of adding fictional characters in the first place because most characters who didn't originate in video games have crappy video games, with only a few exceptions like Spider-Man and James Bond.
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voltch | Posted 6/28/2009 11:37:01 AM | message detail
The MARVEL roster has MVC franchise to back it's gaming credentials so not just a few exceptions.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2009 11:58:38 AM | message detail
Because these new fictional characters are entering a video game character tournament on a video game website, and a prerequisite for the other fictional characters is that they must be from a video game. If the "real" video game characters only use official art or in-game shots, these new ones should follow those same rules. I don't care to hear about toy-Kratos or others getting other pics because they slipped by SB.

Also, while I'm generally for this idea, if we're going to try to ignore their video game history outside of whether or not they are eligible, then forget this gimmick.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2009 11:59:58 AM | message detail
It doesn't have to be a video game character tournament if the field is expanded. That's just a bad restriction because it defeats the purpose of adding them.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2009 12:00:32 PM | message detail
Besides, people aren't going to hate Homer Simpson because he may be 3D in his match-pics. People are still going to vote how they like. Let's just keep them on the same playing field.
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Nominate DOC LOUIS (Punch-Out!!):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2009 12:01:09 PM | message detail
How is that keeping them on the same field? Let them use common artwork regardless of the medium. That would be keeping it on the same field.
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