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FFIV got 30.6% against SMW while being LFFed with FF1, and went up to 38.5% by removing FF! and adding Mario 3.

I think it's pretty clear that SMB3 and SMW LFF isn't enough to make up the difference between LttP and the Mario games
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Seriously... Jecht is not a villain.

i could be wrong but doesnt destroying entire villages make you a villain
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i could be wrong but doesnt destroying entire villages make you a villain

Play FFX again, thanks.
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From: vcharon | #303
i could be wrong but doesnt destroying entire villages make you a villain

Play FFX again, thanks.

whether he was in control of himself or not is irregardless.

For example, if someone murdered someone else by the orders of a superior, they are still found guilty for murder since they committed the crime, even if they didn't want to.
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I'm pretty sure that Pazuzu and not Regan is the villain of The Exorcist.

(Despite what the AFI weirdly believes.)
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For example, if someone murdered someone else by the orders of a superior, they are still found guilty for murder since they committed the crime, even if they didn't want to.

This is a far cry from being possessed. It still is their decision to commit the murder. They still have the choice to make. Jecht did not, being unable to control's Sin's instincts that Yu Yevon had long instilled in him.
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paulg, please don't be like the rest of the world and not consider Seymour the main antagonist of FFX. Seriously... Jecht is not a villain.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Seymour (I blame DISSIDIA). Anyway, Jetcht only got on the bracket in the first place because I accidently had someone filled in twice, so I did a quick replacement.
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*FFX SPOILERS*


If you think Jecht falls under the same category as something like Nazi war criminals, you're mistaken. Jecht had no choice. That's why he wanted to be stopped.
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If you think Jecht falls under the same category as something like Nazi war criminals, you're mistaken. Jecht had no choice. That's why he wanted to be stopped.

Yep.

This is why Seymour is the villain. He's the major antagonist you see most of the game. Even though he was stupidly not the end boss, neither was Kuja and not many people go around saying Necron is the main villain of the game. Sin was present throughout the game as well, yes, but being a giant monster it's not really something I consider "main antagonist character".

Seymour was even used in the villain match pic a few rounds ago, wisely I might add. I almost cried at the thought of another soul out there correctly identifying the actual antagonist in FFX.
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Hey, at least people aren't trying to claim that Jecht and Sin are the same character like they were during '05, when they (Funk's the only one I remember specifically) were trying to get his picture used in the contest. It still annoys me that in that Game Character montage from MMX/Ulti's old site, Jecht gets Sin's picture.
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As if. Jecht would've owned Robotnik's face in the Villains Contest. Heck, he would've beaten Ganondorf!
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Sin was a poor choice to put in that contest... just poor. Jecht could have easily outperformed that, I'd like to believe Seymour could as well but the way Square treats him I'm not so sure. He should have been in Dissidia or Kingdom Hearts by now even... sigh, but I digress
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Seymour could've gone the way of Kuja for all we know. I doubt he'd be THAT weak, but you never know. I'm surprised Sin could get 49% on Robotnik in the first place. The thought of that still puzzles me.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
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Sin/Ultros getting more noms than Seifer/Seymour is still pretty WTF to me. Of course Ceej stuck in a (presumed) company cap as well so we could watch all the obscure RPG villains get fodderized instead of ones from popular series, so who knows.
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Seymour could've gone the way of Kuja for all we know. I doubt he'd be THAT weak, but you never know. I'm surprised Sin could get 49% on Robotnik in the first place. The thought of that still puzzles me.

And he won the ASV vote as well! How in the world does a Sonic character lose the ASV to a giant sea monster?

I have always thought there was some SFF in Ganondorf/Robotnik though. Kuja might me weak, but there's no way he's on par with Albedo, Ramirez and Ghaleon. Robotnik being within scratching distance of Amy Rose, and not being anywhere close to Wily always seemed really off to me as well.
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Based on the relative strength of FFX characters and the fact it was 2005, I'm confident Seymour could have outperformed Sin and defeated Robotnik. I don't think he'd be as weak as Kuja for the simple fact FFIX in general is not near the strength of FFX. I realize it's Seymour and not a playable party member, but I'm pretty confident that Tidus/Auron/Yuna/Rikku could outperform any of FFIX's characters.
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As far as a fictional characters contest goes, I think we should advertise it a lot. Aside from that, well, I'd probably vote for Indiana Jones over anyone else, and aside from that:

Link
Mario
Batman
Samus
Snake
Cloud
Crono
H. Potter
Sephiroth
Sonic
Mega Man guys

Dunno after that.

Ngamer already said he was talked out of the split bracket for an AIVG tourney (appeared in video games), and I agree. A split bracket would not be a good idea. The whole fun is seeing matches like Spider-Man vs. Vincent.

We know comic book type hierarchies in general (e.g. Batman>Superman), but who wins between Superman and Dante, or Han Solo and Zero (actually I think Solo takes that example easy, but you know what I mean)? Lots of exciting new matchups there.

But if it's not 1v1, it will suck and suck bad. Count me out of "who overlaps more with Nintendo, Marvel or DC" or "Batman loses due to being LFFed by Flash" stupid-ass discussion. People really need to put serious pressure on the dude to bring 1v1s back. With the poor vote totals for the last contest I think he's likely leaning in that direction already.
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We need to get Jack Bauer into a AIVG tourny, just we can see how great his Power Hour would be.
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Samus vs. James Bond, and James Bond SFFs Samus.

but I'm pretty confident that Tidus/Auron/Yuna/Rikku could outperform any of FFIX's characters.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2906
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We need to get Jack Bauer into a AIVG tourny,

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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

theres no question jack bauer would get into a contest with fictional characters
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I dont care, Im still Nominating him.

Along With Al Bundy, Optimus Prime, and Godzilla.
And As of Yesterday, Steven Colbert.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

ugh movie characters would be horrible in a character battle.
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60% of the time he's awesome every time.

Even someone as Iconic as Godzilla?
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

Jack Bauer would have a KH like ASV since he's really popular in US and not as popular everywhere else
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<FFX Spoilers>


The main antagonist to Spira is Yu Yevon.
The main antagonist to the party is Seymour.

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I am so down with Godzilla.
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I thought Bauer was liked in the land of the east.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

oh, a ? goes at the end, not an .
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

Godzilla would probably have a good night vote!
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From: Kotetsu534 | #329
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The main antagonist to Spira is Yu Yevon.
The main antagonist to the party is Seymour.

sounds good to me
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Ehhh, I don't know... assuming we get characters opened up, would 4ways really be SO bad? In a normal Contest Nintendo and Square load up the bracket and hurt themselves in the process, but what we're talking about here is so much more broad that I don't really see overlap being a major issue. Sure, there are a few relationships that are pretty well established (Superman and the Joker want to stay out of Batman's division etc), but would Gandalf and Harry Potter really hurt each other with "wizard LFF?" To me it seems more like a Mario 3/SMW situation, where since 100% of the site has strong awareness of these characters and 80% has seen a movie or read one of their books both would still perform well in nearly any circumstances.

Granted I'd much rather see a pure 1v1; just saying that with such a unique twist like this not even 4ways would dampen my enthusiasm too much.

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gandalf would wtfpwn potter
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Jack Bauer Solid Snake SFF
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1v1 would be better, but most of us are of the opinion that 1v1 is better in any scenario. I'd much prefer a 4way with the expanded roster than a 4way without one, which would probably end up being the least cared about contest ever.
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Yeah if we add other characters 64 spots won't be enough.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 6/10/2009 2:54:01 PM | #088
Jack Bauer would have a KH like ASV since he's really popular in US and not as popular everywhere else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_swFUVeVKo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdWLsw2ulaA
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Well I think we all agreed that 32 game character spots was too few back in 2006, but that was when the Magus/Kefkas/Knuckles of the world were being bumped in favor of trash like Daisy/Cortana/Amy Rose. Personally I'd be fine with losing out on that group of mid to low-midcarders who we've seen in 4-5 Contests already if they were being replaced with Bender and Eric Cartman and Sherlock Holmes!

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Yeah, 4-ways are really bad. I think we're almost beginning to forget how awesome 1v1 contests were. Dividing by generations again was probably worse though- there were so many intergenerational matches I wanted to see, and instead we got a lot of reruns and close-to-reruns from last time, plus LFF matches.

I think the Nintendo fanboys dominate Gamefaqs now and forever thing was probably overreaction. The fact is, FFVII still got 45% or so against 3 very high level Nintendo games. In all likelihood, nothing from Nintendo other than OOT would break 40% on it. LTTP isn't miles above CT (more like 51-52% based on their matches with SM64), and Melee isn't miles above FFX. Nintendo characters embarassed themselves left and right last contest, and today's poll confirms that Nintendo does not equal instant victory. It's a much better environment than 2005-7, when that was closer to the truth.

As for OOT? OOT is an absolutely incredible game, and it's hardly an act of extreme Nintendo fanboyism to vote for it over FFVII. It probably beats FFVII on every other major non-RPG based video game site centered on America, too. Of course, there is a serious problem with Square not being able to compete with Nintendo at the very highest level, and Link looks assured of victory for years, but it's not complete domination.
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I think 64/64 would be perfect. We had 64 game character slots for years - we can live with it again for one year.
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already if they were being replaced with Bender and Eric Cartman and Sherlock Holmes!

oh man i forgot about cartman. He'd be elite tier too
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We can sacrifice Magus for a year, as long as we keep both Frog and Zack Fair. Most entertaining character ever and most entertaining character of 2008.
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Or actually, we can sacrifice Magus after we get my Magus/Master Chief match we need to see this!
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There is literally no reason to return to 1-on-1 characters contests, ever. 1-on-1s would be boring and predictable if we just stuck with video game characters, and if we expanded the roster to all fictional characters, there would simply be not enough room to fit in all of the characters we want.
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With good bracket design or even remotely decent bracket design, they would certainly not be predictable, and with any luck would not be boring either. 4-way contests have been generally boring, and as far as predictability goes.....Board 8 does way better relative to the rest of the site.
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4ways aren't inherently better or less boring and predictable than 1v1s -- this last contest should tell say it all there. It's all about how the bracket is made, not what format we use.

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I cannot see how a format that would just have Link > Cloud in the finals could be anything but boring and predictable. And we have had such good reads on nearly every other contest entrant that you could just put them in a list based on their contest strength and take the higher ranked contest entrant to win the match. With 4-ways, you have to consider other factors such as SFF from other characters and whose has the more dedicated fanbase.

Go ahead, create a 16-character 1-on-1 quarterfinal bracket that would not be boring and predictable.
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