GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 750
LinkLegend27 | Posted 6/9/2009 5:53:38 PM | message detail |
Awesome, Ocarina of Time dominating Final Fantasy VII. Also, posting in legendary Part 750 topic. --- Fortes in Unitate. I ain't conceited only positive and way better |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 6:04:30 PM | message detail |
From: Ngamer64 | #199 Interesting idea, but honestly, I feel they have to be integrated. One of the main reasons to blast the roster open in the first place is to see old vs. new. Yes, Wolverine vs. Spider-Man would be interesting, but I'd much rather see Spider-Man vs. Squall. Will Link and Cloud dominate in the end? Extremely likely, but they dominate everything anyway, and I think some of the gaming elites below them might be challenged. My mind simply can't process a match like Samus vs. Batman as an open-and-shut, no questions asked dominant victory for Nintendo. I'd have to at least give Batman a chance, and I figure many others will as well. Even if the gaming characters end up dominating, the debate we'll create with these inter-medium matches will be worth it. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/9/2009 6:37:35 PM | message detail |
I've got the raw poll updates from 00:10 to ~05:40. Does anyone need them? Well, those can be submitted to creativename (you'll probably have to email him) and whatever updates aren't already on the updater between 5:40 and the time he started running the updater can be filled in using the updates on here: http://24.61.9.146/poll3509.txt --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/9/2009 6:47:30 PM | message detail |
Well
there were some suggestions yesterday of splitting characters into 8
distinct divisions- video game-only in 1 or 2, comic book in another,
movie characters in the next and so on. That seems like a major SFF/LFF
mistake to me... but would there REALLY be that much overlap on the
left side if the non-gamers were all jumbled up? I mean we'd be talking
crazy stuff like Goku vs James Bond, Spiderman vs Jack Sparrow- would
be pretty rare to see bad overlap like Yoda vs Han Solo or
Spiderman/Wolverine. I guess my issue will a fully mixed bracket would be that if the gamers dominate (which again seems likely), that sucks some fun out of a first round where they win nearly ever match, and from there out we'd pretty much be back to a same ol, same ol character battle for the next five rounds. Whereas with the split we're guaranteed at least 31 entirely new, wildly unpredictable matchups. --- KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 6/9/2009 6:52:43 PM | message detail |
I
see no reason to really believe that game characters would dominate
such a contest. Yeah, this is a video game website... So what? I love
video games and I'd still vote for people like Batman and Jack Sparrow
over pretty much any video game character. Just because this is a video
game website doesn't mean that the people who come here only like video
game characters. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
redrocket | Posted 6/9/2009 6:58:20 PM | message detail |
You're
massively overrating video game characters. I wouldn't take anyone
outside the noble nine to even show up to a match against the likes of
Batman or Darth Vader. I also think that non-game characters have much
more depth of strength. If we had 32 non-game characters, I would take
even the weakest of them to blowout characters like Kefka. --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:05:41 PM | message detail |
I
don't see any non-video game character dethroning Link as top dog,
honestly (except Captain Jack Sparrow, believe), but I think someone
like Batman or Spider-Man could give a Noble Niner a run for their
money. Also, I'm not sure why people would be treating Pokemon differently based on the format. I think the idea that its strength is increased by the format is a fallacy. We've really seen no evidence of that for anything. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
MetricTrout | Posted 6/9/2009 7:10:51 PM | message detail |
I
disagree. Non-game characters have done pretty well in the Fictional
Character contests on Board 8. Granted, Board 8 is not an accurate
representation of GameFAQs as a whole, but if anything, Board 8 has a
pro-game bias. Actually, my theory that outside of Link/Cloud/Sephy/Mario/Snake, video game characters would flop once we introduced characters from other mediums. Most people who visit GameFAQs do not have lives that revolve around video games, and characters from other mediums are by far better and more memorable than video game characters anyway. --- My bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 Krahenprophet's superior bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=199 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 7:14:50 PM | message detail |
Actually,
my theory that outside of Link/Cloud/Sephy/Mario/Snake, video game
characters would flop once we introduced characters from other mediums. You know what, I kinda agree here. I mean, for the love of all that is holy, I love Samus Aran, but... Samus vs. Batman Samus vs. Spider-Man Samus vs. Darth Vader These are matches, folks. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:15:49 PM | message detail |
Yeah, seriously, who's going to take Crono over Batman? Raise your hands! (Psst, put your hand down, red sox!) --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
paulg235 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:25:14 PM | message detail |
When
looking back this contest, I'd probably mutter to myself "A second
villains contest would've been better than this". Except for like
several matches, I wasn't really intrigued about the contest. Speaking of a villains contest, how would you guys suppose that would go if we had another one? Do you think it'll be a 64 1V1, 64 four-way or a 128 four-way tournament? --- The Gamer In Me And that's the bottom line, because KrahenProphet said so. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:26:12 PM | message detail |
128 villains? Holy crap that'd be a lot of fodder. 85% of the first contest was fodder, and it was only 32 characters! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:31:34 PM | message detail |
Hmm,
I don't know... I mean I realize GameFAQ visitors have lives outside of
games, but (to use a random example) haven't you built up a pretty
strong "relationship" with Solid Snake after following him through 39
Contests matchups over the past nine years? Wouldn't it just feel weird
voting against him in a GameFAQs Contest poll setting? Could even
Batman overcome a mental block like that? Then again, maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. I mean, there are 18-20 year olds out there who have turned on their TV at 8pm on every Sunday of their lives to see what wacky situation Homer Simpson would be getting himself into. For that guy, I don't see how even Cloud or Link could hope to compete! --- KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:35:09 PM | message detail |
I have no problem voting Captain Jack Sparrow or Spider-Man over 99% of the characters in this contest. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:36:35 PM | message detail |
I wonder if Bacon will ask us about the format with the after-contest poll this year... --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 7:45:20 PM | message detail |
Off
the top of my head, here's a list of characters I feel relatively
confident would fall above the fodder line (wherever the heck that is
these days): Star Wars Darth Vader Han Solo Obi-Wan Kenobi Luke Skywalker R2-D2 Lord of the Rings Gandalf Aragorn Legolas Other Movies James Bond Indiana Jones Captain Jack Sparrow X-Men Wolverine Gambit Magneto Other Comics Batman The Joker Spider-Man Venom Superman Captain America The Hulk Iron Man Television Jack Bauer Cartoons Homer Simpson Bart Simpson Mr. Burns Goku Vegeta That's a pretty nice-sized list, and I'm surely missing a ton of characters. And these guys have all appeared in a video game. Heck, some have appeared in more than half the Noble 9. --- Yoblazer: http://i42.tinypic.com/avk9ie.jpg Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:46:01 PM | message detail |
The Hulk would suck. Who likes this guy? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 7:46:43 PM | message detail |
Alright, remove Hulk and add Yoda into the Star Wars list. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:47:07 PM | message detail |
Chewbacca is a top tier Star Wars character and everyone knows it. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:47:29 PM | message detail |
Needs more George Costanza imo --- KrakenProphet is IN-DE-STRUCTABLE. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 7:48:14 PM | message detail |
He is in my book! Let's throw him in! Hell, throw Lando in there while we're at it. If he's fodder-level I'll eat a brick in disgust. --- Yoblazer: http://i42.tinypic.com/avk9ie.jpg Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2009 7:49:47 PM | message detail |
Eric Cartman is pretty mandatory. --- KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew. He savagely abused my bracket. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:50:54 PM | message detail |
Eric Cartman is pretty suck-atory. Bender. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 7:51:06 PM | message detail |
I better respect his authoritah. See, such progress already! --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:51:26 PM | message detail |
Jar Jar --- KrakenProphet is IN-DE-STRUCTABLE. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
Yesmar | Posted 6/9/2009 7:53:16 PM | message detail |
Don't forget Ash! Definitely my upset special if we get a contest like this. --- KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it. |
transients | Posted 6/9/2009 7:53:21 PM | message detail |
time to vomit in my mouth when this is announced! --- xyzzy |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:54:04 PM | message detail |
Get with the times, old man. --- KrakenProphet is IN-DE-STRUCTABLE. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:54:24 PM | message detail |
I'm all for vomit-inducing! The Terminator for Noble Nine! Terminator Salvation boost! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:55:47 PM | message detail |
And if we get Lara Croft into this contest, Angelina Jolie pics are fair game! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2009 7:55:54 PM | message detail |
Whoa, hey, we haven't even touched on TMNT: Leonardo Michelangelo Raphael Donatello --- KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew. He savagely abused my bracket. |
Solid_Mike86 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:55:54 PM | message detail |
What about TMNT characters? Leo,Raph,Shredder. --- AKA Super Luigi. Go Titans.Hurricanes.Tarheels.Bobcats.Blue Jays. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:56:44 PM | message detail |
Leo > Mike > Don > Raph Leo > Link with the two swords factor --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2009 7:56:47 PM | message detail |
...no ****ing way. --- KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew. He savagely abused my bracket. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:57:30 PM | message detail |
It's a sign. Leonardo to take down Link. --- KrakenProphet is IN-DE-STRUCTABLE. http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:58:20 PM | message detail |
Yes, was just going to suggest that Cartman, Yoda, and Bender be added to the original list. I guess if you think about it, what's the fodder line these days? Maybe someone like Frog- who has only appeared in one game, a game only 65% of the current site has played, and who a decent chunk of that 65 probably disliked. I'd probably be hard pressed to take him over an Indiana Jones or Gandalf. I still think the upper half of the NN would be more or less untouchable, but beyond that I suppose the non gamers could contend decently well. Alright, you guys have convinced me- we'll do the bracket fully mixed! --- KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 7:58:50 PM | message detail |
Kefka is the fodder line. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/9/2009 7:59:20 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #237 Kefka is fodder. --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 8:00:05 PM | message detail |
Hence, the fodder line. If you can't beat Kefka, you're fodder. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 8:00:44 PM | message detail |
Speaking of bantha fodder, we need some Jabba the Hut! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/9/2009 8:00:54 PM | message detail |
If you can't beat Guybrush, you're fodder too! Doesn't make him the fodder line. ...even though that would be awesome. --- KrakenProphet is IN-DE-STRUCTABLE. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 8:01:35 PM | message detail |
The idea is that you're not fodder if you can beat Kefka. If you can't, you're fodder. Simple as that. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/9/2009 8:07:28 PM | message detail |
Well looking over Leon's '07 stats, I guess we'd be talking about that... 54 Frog 2007c 20.25 55 Revolver Ocelot 2007c 20.21 56 Axel 2007c 20.17 57 Duke Nukem 2007c 20.87 58 Lloyd Irving 2007c 19.97 59 Gordon Freeman 2007c 19.89 60 Amaterasu 2007c 19.81 61 Ness 2007c 20.46 62 Jill Valentine 2007c 19.96 63 Peach 2007c 19.68 64 Ike 2007c 19.51 65 KOS-MOS 2007c 19.28 66 Kefka 2007c 19.07 67 Raiden 2007c 18.96 range. From tranny's list I think don't think I'd take anyone to lose to that pack aside from maybe The Hulk, Captain America (have never seemed that well-loved to me), Goku, Vegeta (DBZ will be anti-voted TO DEATH, especially after that bomb of a movie), and perhaps Legolas (everyone was pretty annoyed at those pre-teen girls squealing over Orlando Bloom). --- KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 8:09:11 PM | message detail |
Whoa, I did 2007 stats?! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/9/2009 8:13:18 PM | message detail |
Sure
did. Speaking of which, do you think you could send over your final Xes
for '09 when you get a moment? (ngamer@gmail.com) I promise I won't
delay putting them up for as long as I have the 2008 stats! --- KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail! thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2009 8:55:13 PM | message detail |
More suggestions: Spongebob Squarepants Buzz Lightyear Woody Aladdin Simba Mickey Mouse Donald Duck Goofy --- KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew. He savagely abused my bracket. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 8:55:58 PM | message detail |
Hmmm...I don't know when I'll get on those 2009 stats myself. RPGuy and char seem to already have them ready anyhow. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/9/2009 8:56:47 PM | message detail |
I purposely left out the Disneys, but I figure a few of em must have some pop. If Pikachu beats Donald Duck, I swear... --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/9/2009 8:57:09 PM | message detail |
Pikachu probably beats Ariel. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed." |
McGee4Ever | Posted 6/9/2009 8:58:17 PM | message detail |
Think SB would ever green light the other medium contest? --- ST. LOUIS CARDINALS- YOUR WORLD SERIES CHAMPS! |
