GameFAQs Contests

well, first 60% since we had updaters up! It might of gotten 60% early on
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I don't think it had 60% at the freeze. Picking up better updates during the day than during the freeze... when you're a Nintendo game facing FFVII. Ocarina is just ghastly.
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Guess this means that LttP was hurting OoT more than FFX hurt FFVII after all!
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

FFVII is already slightly below what it finished with on OoT yesterday. Should end up around 47% or so by the end of this, which is pretty good considering it was 60/40 at the freeze.
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Assuming VII never gets a remake, will anything challenge Ocarina of Time while these contests are still around? It seems unthinkable.
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Final Fantasy 13.

Book it.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

LoZ:OoT will not be the champion of the foreverz, but it'll be large and in charge for awhile. When time bites it in the ass and more mega-games come out, you'll start to see it more in contention...but that should probably be another five years unless GameFAQs take a major shift from Nintendo; there's just not another Nintendo game that'll beat LoZ:OoT anytime soon.
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Heh, it would have to knock people's socks off just to break 40%, but we'd all welcome a game that good with open arms. Unless XIII gets the XII treatment, it should surpass MGS4 as the #1 must-own game on its system (well, maybe not, since we'll also get an Xbox version, but I can't imagine dual exposure doing anything but helping its overall strength), which would make it contend with FFX.

Another thought... hasn't 2009 been a very bad year as far as strong games are concerned? I mean, I can't think of anything beating RE5 for GotY, and RE5 ain't worth much compared to RE4.
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2009 has been the worst year in gaming in a long time.

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

Sounds like somebody's forgetting Punch-Out!!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=963
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2883

Time to take back your title, kid.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
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2009 is like 2007 in that all the big games are coming out in the second half of the year.

Speaking of which, Modern Warfare 2 or RE5 for GotY?
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

RE5 to get this doomed-for-failure Jill hype train rolling.
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Fun Fact: Resident Evil 5 is the best selling Resident Evil of all-time currently, having recently passed RE2 and RE4.

Fail Fact: This crushes all of my remaining dreams that we'll get a 'return to the roots' Resident Evil, even as a side game.
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From: FFDragon | #163
Fun Fact: Resident Evil 5 is the best selling Resident Evil of all-time currently, having recently passed RE2 and RE4.

Fail Fact: This crushes all of my remaining dreams that we'll get a 'return to the roots' Resident Evil, even as a side game.

return to the roots, more like return to the suck
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This is why you have no friends, Albion.
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For LoZ to fail,we need to get the wii to start getting a massive drop in love,the next gen of console to go down the way of the gamecube for nintendo,the next zelda needs to be as controversial as windwaker and anything possible to cause a sudden collapse in nintendo popularity is the only way for Link to lose and OoT to lose,which he won't.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

Assuming VII never gets a remake, will anything challenge Ocarina of Time while these contests are still around? It seems unthinkable.

Honestly, it's about as unthinkable as FFVII losing to OoT in 2k4. All it takes it an influx of voters that are more likely to vote FFVII's way than OoT's, and that mostly depends on what Square games are coming out at the time. OoT won this because the site shifted majorly to Nintendo in the past few years; a similar shift the other way is all it really takes.

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From: FFDragon | #165
This is why you have no friends, Albion.

I just prefer tank controls in games you play as a tank
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And RE4/RE5 use tank controls to so I guess you hate them
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From: The n00b Avenger | #169
And RE4/RE5 use tank controls to so I guess you hate them

i hate entire series tbqh
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Except Square hasn't done anything recently and that seems unlikely to change in the near future. All of one game of the most recent 32 was a Square game. Compare to Ocarina's division where we had FFVIII, FFIX, FFT, CC, and Xenogears - five out of sixteen Square games and three of those were decently strong. It seems very unlikely that Square would get back to that level of production on consoles anytime soon.
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From: ZFS | #167
Assuming VII never gets a remake, will anything challenge Ocarina of Time while these contests are still around? It seems unthinkable.

Honestly, it's about as unthinkable as FFVII losing to OoT in 2k4. All it takes it an influx of voters that are more likely to vote FFVII's way than OoT's, and that mostly depends on what Square games are coming out at the time. OoT won this because the site shifted majorly to Nintendo in the past few years; a similar shift the other way is all it really takes.

True, especially since a site shift is what got us here in the first place, but it might take years (if it ever shows up at all). Even if Square hits the mark with FFXIII, that's still only one game. XIV is an MMO, and there's absolutely no mention of KHII, which I have to imagine is still years away. Plus, Nintendo looks like they'll counter FFXIII with a much improved 2010. Ocarina looks pretty untouchable for a good while, all things considered.
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Except Square hasn't done anything recently and that seems unlikely to change in the near future. All of one game of the most recent 32 was a Square game.

Square created three games last gen that have done well -- FFX, KH1, and KH2. FFX and KH1 were released nearly a decade ago, which makes the shift toward Nintendo something to happen out of necessity. But they have a good number of games coming out within the next couple of years, including the next two major FF games (not including FFXIV here). That's going to be huge on this site, especially with FFXIII proper being multiplatform -- and it's very safe to say it'll be a FFX and not a FFXII. All it takes is a stream of big, great games for the shift to start back, not completely, but enough to make Square relevant again, because they haven't been for most people in a long time.

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people are forgetting about dissidia

thats gonna be gamefaqs goty tbqh
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It would be if it wasn't on a handheld system, but that immediately dooms it to single digits in the GotY poll.

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From: ZFS | #175
It would be if it wasn't on a handheld system, but that immediately dooms it to single digits in the GotY poll.

Maybe it won't win, but theres no way a FF version of Smash Bros gets single digits
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Yeah, look at Crisis Core for the same sort of deal. (I'm actually kinda surprised that missed out, it's not like there was a lot of competition for noms in the last division.) I'm looking forward to Dissidia but I don't think it's going to have much impact at all since it's relegated to the PSP.
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. FFX and KH1 were released nearly a decade ago,

This is actually quite true.

Damn I feel old
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

I feel old too,almost ancient in fact,but gotta admit square is beastly right now on the handheld front,only konami seems to be this good with castlevania and metal gear.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

I think Dissidia will be big on the site, but for whatever reason, people just don't vote for a portable game when it comes to GotY. GameFAQs isn't the only one either, as most major sites don't do it either. It should boost PSP ownership up like crazy, but yeah, GotY no chance of this.

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Dissidia,if only it was a test run leading up to some console FF with 70+ playable characters and tag teams.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

as a fighter of course.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

A PS3/360 version of Dissidia... now THAT would win goty
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Does a game have to be weak in the GotY poll if it's a handheld game? It's not everyday we get a Pokemon RBY but that should show that a handheld game can have a lot of strength. Link's Awakening was quite strong as well.
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but pokemon has a strong nostalgia factor,it's unofficial but quite clear to me that a big handheld title's strength mostly comes from nostalgia.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

They've performed abysmally with the exception of Mario Kart DS (which barely beat a pre-boosted God of War in the weakest GotY collection we've ever had). With this year's line-up looking similarly weak, though, who knows? Dissidia and Spirit Tracks may put their series name to good use.

Whatever the case, I hope Bacon doesn't take only one multi-platform game into the overall voting, because RE5 and Modern Warfare 2 will very likely be the strongest games of the year.
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I've got the raw poll updates from 00:10 to ~05:40. Does anyone need them?
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KrahenProphet did not fall for the FFVII bandwagon!

Square won't be making a comeback until they stop making movies and MMOs.

which means we're probably never going to see a resurgence.
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So Ocarina is going to end up winning by a bit more than yesterday, by enough that FFVII/OOT won't be debatable next year. Link has an even greater lock on character battles too. At least FFVII isn't doing as badly as it looked like it might do the first 15 minutes.

The LTTP/FFX debate remains unanswered due to the format. If you take LTTP's 36.6% on FFVII in round 4 and FFX's 34.6% on OOT in round 5 at face value, they look pretty close, but Brawl was in OOT's match while SM64 + FFVI was probably more or less fair. So, I guess 53-55%ish sounds right for LTTP against FFX. We'll need to see some intergenerational matches though to really know how they'll go. CT/RBY is probably my most wanted match with games right now, though I'll recognize RBY as the favorite there.

I've been thinking about how to figure out how much damage OOT took from LFF in rounds 3-5: my best idea is to extrapolate FFVIII based on Starcraft, and then extrapolate MGS, FFX, and MGS4 based on FFVIII, assuming the round 3 and round 5 matches were very similar environments.

One other thing: MWC was right about RBY. He called it the #3 game after round 1 when most of us were debating whether it was a top 10 game, and none of us were putting it in the top 5. Whether or not RBY would actually beat, say, LTTP, he was closer than all, or almost all, of us were. He was also right about OOT and FFVII being way above the rest of the pack, and about OOT winning.
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About a Square resurgence, the problem is that Square wasn't just big on Gamefaqs during the PS1 era; they were big in the video game world as a whole. FFVII is arguably the game that made the Playstation, but JRPGs are a much more niche genre now. Square needs something along the lines of an FFVII that captures the imagination of a generation- merely "good" games won't be enough.
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JRPGs are a much more niche genre now.

Not a coincidence this is true during a time when Final Fantasy has been missing from this gen.

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But will Square making a serious Final Fantasy put JRPGs back on the map? Look at Mario- there was an 11 year gap between good mainline Mario games, and, well, Galaxy is nowhere near as important to the site or the industry as 64 was, even though most people seem to think it matches or exceeds it in quality.
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I called RBY #3 after round 1 too. I hesitated with that MGS performance though. I'd probably pick Chrono Trigger over it 1v1 but in a fourway go with RBY.

I don't think Square has nearly the same pull that it used to. maybe to old fans, but to 13 and 14 year olds? menus and menus and menus. Final Fantasy just isn't a big deal like it used to be. I agree that the JRPG is going out of style. it's still pretty strong here but not the end-all.
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I would also like to contragulate myself for hyping RBY as a strong game in the months before the contest. Of course, I didn't see it being that strong, but I did say it could potentially beat FFVI before the round 1 match, and also back when we thought of FFVI as a borderline top 10 game!

Now that Zelda 1 hype train on the other hand.....
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I compared RBY to FF6 and had it winning round 1, but yeah, not strong enough.

my biggest 'call' is probably MGS4 being the strongest MGS and that's.. inconclusive, but probably a win for me considering no one would come close to going that far. my other big call of course is old games being relatively weak to expectations and there's nothing to really take away from that.
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xyzzy

Actually, there is one thing that could bring Square back, and quickly.

Super Smash Bros.: Nintendo vs. Square

Do it, Nintendo!
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There are a few things I'd take over Pokemon 1v1 that wouldn't seem very wise after that contest. It's still never proven anything in the 1v1 format, and even that 47.5% against Metroid, which had us gawking at the time, looks like junk compared to what it just did.
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In trying to figure out what to draw from this match, I think a big thing to point out is how much Ocarina has grown since '04. People like to get down on FFVII, but it really didn't look any weaker than '04 throughout the whole contest. This is just a beastly OoT. And the reason why should be fairly obvious. The average GameFAQer grew up on the N64/PS, as opposed to the SNES just five years ago (especially with the lowered poll). This has increased OoT's stock greatly, especially when combined with its influence to 3-D gaming. While FFVII is from that era too, the average GameFAQer was probably only 7 or 8 when it came out, which is too young to be getting into RPGs I would guess. FFVII was important to a lot of people, but I'm not sure if it was for people who started gaming in that era. Not sure what this says about the future of the contests. Not much probably, since OoT and FFVII are so far ahead of anything else, but we might see something like FFX or Melee show a similar jump at some point in the future.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

So I noticed that there was some more talk yesterday about about mixing non-video game fictional characters into the upcoming Contest. I know yo's been beating that drum for a while now, but I'm still not sure how seriously we're taking this idea. I mean, heaven knows we need something to spice these Contests back up, and there's got to be worse ideas than getting an entirely fresh set of characters (who WOULDN'T be 100% fodder) into the bracket. Right?

If we're seriously going to look into this, what would be the best way to go about it? I was thinking we should split the bracket into two, kind of like the male/female divide back in '06. Everyone gets to nom 7 vg characters and 7 from outside of games, and the left side of the bracket would be entirely new matchups like Yoda v The Joker while the right would have our classic stuff like Vincent v Sonic.

I mean, we can all agree that the Male Bracket was awesome, right? So reshuffling it three years later (after 2 seasons with 0 worthwhile stats) and with Samus/Tifa/Zelda in the mix ought to be fun. And then having an entirely new set of characters battling on the other half would also be enjoyable, I'd imagine.

I guess my fear with a completely mixed bracket would be that video game characters would dominate all over the place, just because we're so used to supporting our favorites after 8 years. With a split like this though, that probable domination would only mess up one of the 63 matches.

Thoughts?

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Dividing the bracket between video game and non-video game characters is an absolutely terrible idea and we really need to stop talking about it. If we really go with adding non-game characters to the next bracket they need to be mixed into the whole bracket. Dividing the bracket is worse than division by generations in the game contest.

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