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I'll take Pikachu upsets, Sonic losing to third-tier Nintendo characters, and inanimate object domination any day. More exciting than the usual crap we saw from 1v1's.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Let's use the games contest as an example for 1v1, assuming all the games that went to round 2 made it to the contest.

ROUND 1
Tetris > Donkey Kong - Nice SFF performance by Tetris
Mega Man 2 > Pac-Man - MM2 did horrible, sound the upset alarm!
Super Mario Bros. > Ninja Gaiden - SMB destroys an opponent as expected
The Legend of Zelda > Metroid - LoZ SFF Metroid

Sonic 1 > Street Fighter II - SFII lost?
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Secret of Monkey Island - lol destruction
Super Mario World > Final Fantasy - expected results
Final Fantasy IV > Mega Man 3 - expected results

Super Metroid > Super Mario Kart - OMG nailbiter, better than four-ways
LoZ: Link to the Past > Donkey Kong Country - lol SFF
Final Fantasy VI > LoZ: Link's Awakening - FFVI is in trouble
Sonic 2 > Mortal Kombat II - expected

GoldenEye 007 > Super Mario RPG - not a top 10 game!
Final Fantasy VII > Mario Kart 64 - MK64 did better than expected
Super Mario 64 > Castlevania: SotN - expected results
Chrono Trigger > SMW2: Yoshi's Island - lol weak Mario game

Pokemon RBY > LoZ: Majora's Mask - OMG RBY for top 10
Metal Gear Solid > Pokemon GS - MGS is in trouble
Final Fantasy VIII > Starcraft - epic upset
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy IX - expected results

Final Fantasy X > Metal Gear Solid 2 - expected results
Kingdom Hearts > GTA: Vice City - lol GTA
Diablo II > Halo - lol Halo
Super Smash Bros. Melee > LoZ: Wind Waker - lol slowflake

TES IV: Oblivion > Tales of Symphonia - Woah ToS did better than expected, not as interesting as the 4-way match
Metal Gear Solid 3 > World of Warcraft - expected results
Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts 2 - RE4 overrated?
LoZ: Twilight Princess > Final Fantasy XII - TP in trouble?

Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Grand Theft Auto IV - expected results
Call of Duty 4 > Super Mario Galaxy - OMG upset
Metal Gear Solid 4 > Portal - expected results
Fallout 3 > Halo 3 - expected results

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ROUND 2
Tetris > Mega Man 2 - expected after last round
Super Mario Bros. > The Legend of Zelda - OMG upset

Super Mario Bros. 3 > Sonic 1 - expected results
Super Mario World > Final Fantasy IV - expected results

LoZ: A Link to the Past > Super Metroid - seen in 2004.
Final Fantasy VI > Sonic 2 - lol LA > Sonic 2

Final Fantasy VII > GoldenEye 007 - GE did better than expected
Super Mario 64 > Chrono Trigger - OMG upset

Pokemon RBY > Metal Gear Solid - expected after last round
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy VIII - lol Starcraft

Final Fantasy X > Kingdom Hearts - KH resists SFF?
Super Smash Bros. Melee > Diablo II - expected results

Metal Gear Solid 3 > TES IV: Oblivion - expected results
LoZ: Twilight Princess > Resident Evil 4 - maybe it wasn't overrated

Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Call of Duty 4 - lol Galaxy
Metal Gear Solid 4 > Fallout 3 - lol 2008 GotY

ROUND 3
Super Mario Bros. > Tetris - expected results
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario World - lol bracket vote saves the day
LoZ: A Link to the Past > Final Fantasy VI - FFVI is weaker as expected since round 1
Final Fantasy VII > Super Mario 64 - nothing interesting
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Pokemon RBY - nothing interesting
Super Smash Bros. Melee > Final Fantasy X - repeat of 2004
LoZ: Twilight Princess > Metal Gear Solid 3 - expected results
Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Metal Gear Solid 4 - lol 2008 GotY again

ROUND 4
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario Bros. - expected results
Final Fantasy VII > LoZ: A Link to the Past - nothing interesting
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Super Smash Bros. Melee - nothing interesting
Super Smash Bros. Brawl > LoZ: Twilight Princess - lol Ulti

ROUND 5
Final Fantasy VII > Super Mario Bros. 3 - nothing interesting
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Super Smash Bros. Brawl - nothing interesting

ROUND 6
LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy VII - wait a second the results were expected this time since Final Fantasy VII hasn't been hiding behind Nintendo LFF for the past three rounds.

Really I don't see how this bracket in a 1v1 would be more interesting that 4-ways.
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LoZ: Twilight Princess > Final Fantasy XII - TP in trouble?

FF12 advanced?
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Opps replace LoZ Twlight Princess > Final Fantasy XII with LoZ Twilight Princess > Half-Life 2
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But but but the legitimacy!
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

that = than, at the end

>_>

<_<
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I don't like these 4-ways because, as mentioned before, they take away from the legitimacy.

If a character/game I don't like wins over a game I do like because it is put in a favorable position it just pisses me off, but the reverse is almost equally bad. Where is the satisfaction in a favorite of yours winning when its opponent needed to have its legs cut off first? Zack leading over Mario was quite a sight and lord knows I would vote for Zack over Mario 1-1, but I was rooting for Mario there. He just deserved to win that.

Also, with the way the scoring system works and the possible consequences of missing a match early on, there is a lot more luck involved in making a bracket. Someone can have a higher score despite having made considerably worse predictions.

I'd much rather go back to 1-1. For the sake of novelty, I think tag-team can work. Not tag-team like you would expect though (2 characters vs 2 characters). There's another idea (I've read this on the board once, I did not come up with this idea):

Teams are paired according to seeds: 1/16, 2/15, ... (in the interest of keeping this representative, it makes sense to only mention the fact that it's tag-team after nominations have been held).

For example, we have a team Link/CATS and a team Squall/Ganondorf. The first half of the match (this could be defined as the first 12 hours, or preferably the amount of time it usually takes to get around half of the total votes cast) Link takes it up against Squall, then the next half it's CATS versus Ganondorf.

The combined percentage counts in determining the winner. I think this is great because it values skill (judging the margin of defeat becomes extremely important) and it has potential for some epic comebacks.

There are some legitimacy issues with this as well (imagine Link going up against Ganondorf for the first half) but it's nowhere near as bad as 4-ways.

Another problem is of course that seeding is an imperfect gauge for character strength. Master Chief would probably be paired with a 16 seed, Vincent with a 8-9 seed, making that a considerably stronger team. Then again, the teams should generally be much closer in strength than characters are in regular 1-1s or 4-ways.

Lastly, it can be annoying to have for example a Master Chief/Magus team, where Master Chief takes the first half (night vote) and Magus the second (day vote), but these issues should be relatively small overall, as long as it's clear which entrant goes first.

Overall I think this can be pretty awesome and I think it's at least worth giving a shot.
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Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino

to be fair this bracket would have been terrible in any format

gotta move things around to start making it good
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Normally I'd feel like "oh wow, the contest is over" at this point, but this one was so poor I can't really miss it. Even the Oracle wasn't the same.

Weird thing is that before the final I was in the top 56 somehow, would've easily finished in the leaderboard again if the final was FF7>OoT. Kinda dumb considering how many big mistakes I made in my bracket.

That's the one good thing about 4ways I guess - they're actually winnable. It's crazy. 40,000 entrants yet most of us have a more than legit shot at the final leaderboard because 4ways confuse the **** out of the masses. It's actually not the fluke of all flukes to win.

I doubt too many of us really care about that though, we'd much rather have a fun and enjoyable contest.
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The problem of having one character out for half the poll is that it may be put at a time where it's terrible at.

For example Link at night and Link at day would be two different animals.
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to be fair this bracket would have been terrible in any format

gotta move things around to start making it good

Yeah, one could argue that the generations was even more of a reason for the super-crappiness of this contest than 4ways.

At least that's something that can't happen with characters.
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The problem of having one character out for half the poll is that it may be put at a time where it's terrible at.

For example Link at night and Link at day would be two different animals.

Read the entire post.
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Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino

Oh, and congrats to Krakenprophet :)

If we ever have another contest (my guess is we will, eventually), I hope he nominates someone cool with potential like mah boy, Red XIII!
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Are we going open the Nomination Rally Tournament soon?

I've already made a topic with a new character bracket

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49879008
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Yesterday at least had a second match to keep up with since the main one was a blowout.

Did anyone really keep track of FFX/LTTP? The only reason LTTP didn't win by a lot more was because it was only getting 12% of the vote. It wasn't exciting. Seriously, no one cares about a battle for third place. Did people really get excited about a battle between Tails and The Boss for third place?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

I'm going to back away from the debate for a sec (it's the same stuff over and over, it's largely a matter of opinion anyway, and I'm between classes)...what newcomers are we expecting to see to the Character Battles this year?

I'll go ahead and throw in a shameless plug for my rally for Punch-Out!!'s Doc Louis, found below. I'll also note I'm pretty certain my topic's the first serious rally-attempt of the year, so...bonus points?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

I will say if general voters just want to see their favorites win and their least favorites lose though, one-on-one is going to please the most people just on the principle that the most popular wins and the least popular loses.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

Charizard
Darth Revan

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

Jecht
Seifer
Laguna

The end.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Gilgamesh goddamnit.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

Now that I've actually played some of FF8, Seifer can go jump off a cliff. Let's get in Zell before this guy.

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

I'm all for Zell, but I doubt we could get a serious rally going for the guy. I wouldn't be opposed to getting Rinoa in either, but I know that would get anti-signed like crazy.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=846

I mean, really.


Oh, and Cid Highwind.

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Vault Boy
Charizard
Maybe Cid Highwind
Joke Zelda character like Epona

That's probably it besides the usual mix of uber-fodder.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

From: LeonhartFour | #123
I'm all for Zell, but I doubt we could get a serious rally going for the guy. I wouldn't be opposed to getting Rinoa in either, but I know that would get anti-signed like crazy.

I don't have faith in Rinoa considering she couldn't even get into the Female bracket.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Oh, I'm for Cid Highwind, too. Not a big fan of the guy, but he's probably the strongest character we haven't seen yet.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Red XIII. Seriously, he's FFVII, he's awesome, and he looks like a lion. I'd rather see him than Cid Highwind, to be honest.
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Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino

If anyone else from FF7 gets in, it's going to be Random Piece of FF7 Furniture.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

Eh, I'm not sure if Charizard will be all too far away from Mewtwo.
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BGE2 - Today: CT > SM64 - Points: 136 Vote: SM64

We've gotta get Yuna and Rikku back in. Last year was garbage.
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We need five FFX characters, seven FFVII characters, three FFVIII characters, two FFIX characters, one FFXII character, two FFXIII characters, two FFIV characters, and zero FFVI characters.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Kefka's tradition, bro! It's destiny that I waste points on him!
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Okay, one FFVI character, and it's Shadow, not Kefka.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

we want barret,Mr T must get in,he's nnot as cool and badass as red,rufus,reno or yuffie,but he's the big guy,with a sweet sensitive side behind the manly muscles.
seriously barret is a great character who would instantly become the strongest black character ever.
unless we count shadow's 46%on mario legit.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

No Shadow please.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

Okay, one FFVI character, and it's Shadow, not Kefka.

Absolutely 100%. I was going to say the same thing. Ninja>clown

(well unless that clown is the Joker anyway)

...actually thinking on the Joker he'd probably be a powerhouse. Dante-level at absolute worst.
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I'd buy that. I mean, look at how strong Dante is, and it's hard to picture anyone actually... you know, giving a **** about him (sorry Lopen).
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everyone totally needs to nominate

Happy Mask Salesman

and

Chocobo or Mog
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OH JEEZE!
Wakka wakka wakka *consumes you*

if the FFIX fanbase had any decency they'd should support beatrix in droves,she's on badass chick and god her moves are awesome and so is her theme music.
She'd be worthless but she'd still be awesome.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

Kuja lost to a hand, Beatrix would probably lose to a foot
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A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.

...L-block?

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Beatrix would struggle against tanner and would lose to agent 47,but you still can't beat her...EVER.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

Locke > Shadow

For actually being one of the major players. And you don't have to be a ninja to have cool design.

But before we retire FFVI characters, there's something that needs to be on the front page:

http://kefka.lostdreamer.net/images/sprites/kefkabig.gif
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From: HaRRicH | #117
I'm going to back away from the debate for a sec (it's the same stuff over and over, it's largely a matter of opinion anyway, and I'm between classes)...what newcomers are we expecting to see to the Character Battles this year?

I'll go ahead and throw in a shameless plug for my rally for Punch-Out!!'s Doc Louis, found below. I'll also note I'm pretty certain my topic's the first serious rally-attempt of the year, so...bonus points?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49774975

Vault boy
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So about that Nomination Rally Tournament...
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aww yeah here come the 100 vote updates to start the asv

I doubt FF7 finishes over 47%
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Tag

Man, whoever called FFX and LTTP not doing crap in the finals was right on the money.
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This is the same relative percentage both games finished with yesterday. Ocarina will indeed end up looking better.
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OoT did it.

Its first 60% update of the day
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