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Vote totals for yesterday's match at this time: 53366
Vote totals for today: 59329

4-ways owned
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There's something that was nostalgic about seeing a 2 option poll and a 2 option results. Good feeling
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Vote totals for yesterday's match at this time: 53366
Vote totals for today: 59329

4-ways owned

Hell yeah
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

It's a good feeling, I must say. It'd be nice to see this persuade SB, but who knows.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

Also, for what it's worth, SB filed my suggestion to rerun a bunch of the old favorites-polls. Who knows if he does anything with it from the way Ulti was talking about it, but that's a step in the right direction.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

with such a gap in votals SB can't say no to a return of the best format that led us to the classics.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

Yes he can.

And he probably will, because I think he secretly hates this board. And I don't blame him.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

And he probably will, because I think he secretly hates this board. And I don't blame him.

Why are you even here?
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Think about it.

1. Board 8 keeps telling him they don't want 4-ways or generations, but he adds them anyway. He then makes a topic to "debate," but instead of debate he just makes a topic and then leaves without reading, making sure everyone knows that he's ignoring your opinions.
2. He lets people petition to change the bracket, and despite my SF4 topic not getting many votes, he replaces TWEWY with SF4 anyway. He doesn't care what you guys think, he was mainly looking for an excuse to get a game he enjoyed in the bracket legitimately, using Board 8 to do so. Pissing this board off was just a bonus.
3. The only topic he makes is about Battletoads of all things, but he doesn't make a topic about other close matches since he wants people to think he's not doing anything about cheating. He wants Board 8 members to be suspicious of him.
4. He keeps OKing crappy-quality and overall biased pics so as to piss off the people wanting fair matches.
5. Seeing how OoT beating FF7 drove this board into a frenzy, Bacon decided to do the 1v1 so we could have another day of OoT beating FF7 and another day of fanboys acting defensive and crazy about their favorite game getting crushed once again by Zelda. It cements Zelda domination, plus it gives a valid argument on the merits for 1v1, which means he can once again ignore it and focus on fourways just to further piss this board off.

I truly think Bacon hates this board, and he does all the things he does contest-wise to spite you guys.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

From: Yesmar | #058
And he probably will, because I think he secretly hates this board. And I don't blame him.

Why are you even here?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49889748
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

1v1 may have the best matches, but four-ways is more interesting on average.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

Everything doesn't have to always be about lulz.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

And I really feel 1v1 would be weird to go through again. It just wouldn't be exciting to watch. People claimed close matches weren't as meaningless in 1v1 as four-ways, but was Duck Hunt/Donkey Kong really that important in the scheme of things? A 1-point match?

I think some regulars are just letting nostalgia blind them here. I think four-ways work better, as you have to really be up on your game to predict what happens. It's obviously doable. I just think there's more inherit excitement and mystery to fourways, because you never know what's going to happen, leading to more great upsets and situations where even cult favorites like Monkey Island can shine for once. It's great for everyone all-around, besides contest elitists I guess. But you're the minority, so who cares?
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Today is a great example of why 4ways are better. Yesterday at least had a second match to keep up with since the main one was a blowout. Today, there was no point of watching after first 15 min. sure, 1v1 might be more "Legit", but its not as entertaining watching.
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No one cared about LttP vs. FFX.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

People claimed close matches weren't as meaningless in 1v1 as four-ways, but was Duck Hunt/Donkey Kong really that important in the scheme of things? A 1-point match?

Duck Hunt/Donkey Kong is one of the best matches, if not the best, of all time. If people are going to be lame enough to ignore it since it happened in the first round, that's their fault.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Today is a great example of why 4ways are better. Yesterday at least had a second match to keep up with since the main one was a blowout. Today, there was no point of watching after first 15 min. sure, 1v1 might be more "Legit", but its not as entertaining watching.

Yeah, who are these people?
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

The only 1v1s that are exciting at all are the ones that are really close. Even this match, which is a lot closer then most 1v1s are, isn't really exciting at all.
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*Meaning who are these people that cared about LttP vs. FFX? It's not like the match was any more exciting than FFVII vs. OoT anyway.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

...who really cared who won between LoZ:LttP and FFX yesterday? They were fighting over ~23% with their big brothers in the match, plus it's the championship -- people want to know the winner and perhaps the runner-up...that's usually about it. Besides, if today's match and yesterday's had switched places, we would be calling for how boring and useless that match would be instead. We simply got spoiled on knowing what game would win before today, so don't take that out on the head-to-head match here.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

I fail to see how this is more entertaining in any way. Both formats have upsides and will have close matches here and there, but when it comes down to it 1v1 ends up with far more non-interesting matches that are over in 10 minutes.
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The problems with four-ways are:

Battles for 2nd have little tension because, while only one game gets to advance, it's still for 2nd place.
Battles for 1st have little tension because both games are advancing anyway.
Three or four way battles for 1st and 2nd almost never happen.

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

I don't really buy the first point, but the other two are true to some extent.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

I agree with 2nd point. If both advance, it kinda lessens the tension. I don't see why second place lessens it, though.
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Crono/Vincent.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Do you care more about a game's road to victory, or a game's road to doing enough to advance?

Pretty easy to see why there's less tension for runner-ups. They can still be fun and even tense, but it's all about who's #1.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

From: HaRRicH | #076
Do you care more about a game's road to victory, or a game's road to doing enough to advance?

Pretty easy to see why there's less tension for runner-ups. They can still be fun and even tense, but it's all about who's #1.

I care about who advances, and for there to be close matches and unpredictable matches. I don't care if they're first or second, honestly.
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The fact that pretty much all of our best 4-way matches have been a battle for second place make that hard to believe.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

There were many more circumstances to Crono/Vincent than just a close battle for second place, mainly that it was a rematch from their one-on-one battle and it was a great chance to see a Noble Nine member fall for the first time. This format has made us respect the elites less because we now just don't care so much if Mega Man loses to a cube, and we wouldn't have cared as much if we didn't see before that Vincent had a shot at winning from their legit one-on-one battle. Besides, CT and FF7 are represented against each other -- that fanbase will always have an opinion there.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

1v2 is a fight for first place, 2v3 is a fight for advancement. 2/3 of the matches can be exciting in close matches, and even 3v4 can be interesting for novelty's sake.

I don't see how people can say close four-way matches are boring when they get excited over a one-point DK/DH match where the winner gets annihilated anyway. You're just letting nostalgia blind you, a common thing among elitists.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

also,it sucks,when a guy who's been second best for loads a rounds gets a lucky break cos the guy who's been handing him his ass for a few rounds then meets the one guy who'll drain all his powers away,oh and the guy in 2nd is still the same,just getting pwned by someone else.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

This format has made us respect the elites less because we now just don't care so much if Mega Man loses to a cube

And always having the elites unbeatable is better? I for one love that they added a format to give the little guys a chance to beat the noble nine for once.
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Krahenprophet is my little butterfly!

Hahaha, the updater is messed up. It has 2 extra columns filled with 0.00% all the way down. There's also a "Lead 2" and "Lead 3" columns and columns for the number of votes the non-existing third game and fourth game have.
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Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ!

The problems with 4-ways are nothing new. I think I speak for most people when I say that we enjoyed the 4-way idea for its first contest, it was fresh and interesting. But as a permanent fixture they're too SFF dependent to be as interesting to watch or care about.

The one good thing that could come out of 4-ways is they've shielded us from the genuine 1v1 character strengths for the past two years meaning that if Allen did revert to 1v1 there would be a lot of characters with a major question mark hanging over their head for statheads.

I mean, just imagine this bracket.

1 Master Chief
8 Alucard

4 Knuckles
5 L-Block

3 Pikachu
6 Zero

2 Tidus
7 Riku

Or how about Zack Fair vs Bowser, Squall vs Tifa or Sonic vs MegaMan?

A 1v1 bracket made well could make these contests epic again.
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Crono/Vincent....Would have been way better if it had been 1 vs. 1.

People always complain about blow-outs, but that has nothing to do with 1 vs. 1 themselves. There is no reason why a 1 vs. 1 64 character bracket needs to have a match where anybody fails to break 20%, and if a bracket was designed with strength in mind the popularity of all the characters would drive excitement whether the match was a nailbiter or not. The '05 Contest should be proof of this.

Sephiroth vs. Sly Cooper is not an awful match because Sephy got 85%, it's an awful match because no one cared about Sly Cooper. Giving these cult games/characters a chance to shine does not solve the problem, since NO ONE CARES ABOUT MONKEY ISLAND, so giving it a chance to advance instead of designing a good bracket doesn't resolve anything. If you throw the Top 64 characters together, you don't need a close match to drive excitement. It will happen organically.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

If you throw the Top 64 characters together, you don't need a close match to drive excitement. It will happen organically.

Except 3/4th of the first round will be blown outs that has no point of watching after first 5 minutes.
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I don't see how people can say close four-way matches are boring when they get excited over a one-point DK/DH match where the winner gets annihilated anyway. You're just letting nostalgia blind you, a common thing among elitists.

Would DK/DH have been more interesting if it was worth 4 points? I don't follow your logic.


Though like I've said 1v1 has the best matches while 4-ways are more interesting on average.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

I'm arguing over people saying four-way close matches are boring because they don't matter when many close matches in 1v1 end up not mattering either.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Though like I've said 1v1 has the best matches while 4-ways are more interesting on average.

If by best matches, you mean the noble nine always end up facing each other in the final matches every year, then yeah I guess its better matches.
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Meanwhile, I don't care to see if Zack Fair can beat Mario if Link and MMX are in the poll. You're about the excitement while I'm about the legitimacy, so we're bound to disagree. My position is this: if these contests aren't going to be aiming for legitimacy, why bother? This contest turned out a lot better for legitimacy than I feared, admittedly, but the character battles still have shown it's not much more than counting how much Nintendo or Square is represented in a match and predicting whether or not it will cost them a match. Who wants to see the less popular choice win more often? If it happens, leave it to the Frogs of the contest and make them work for it more AND do so legitimately instead of letting LFF sandbag their opponents. Besides, one-on-ones have excitement too -- it's not like yesterday's match is going to be much closer than today's. It just had the fortune of coming first, thus the hype was there instead of here.

I dare NCAA to try four-ways with March Madness, by the way.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

Who wants to see the less popular choice win more often?

Its better then seeing the same elites winning every year.
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Let's compare a video game contest to the NCAA!
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

I don't see how people can say close four-way matches are boring when they get excited over a one-point DK/DH match where the winner gets annihilated anyway.

Because both winning and advancing at the same time is intrinsically more thrilling. I've been saying 4-ways suck since they were first introduced. Sorry that I disagree with this one point about contests. Clearly I must be blinded by nostalgia and not have a legit difference in opinion.

Except 3/4th of the first round will be blown outs that has no point of watching after first 5 minutes.

How would they be blow outs if it was the Top 64? And just because a match isn't close doesn't mean it's not interesting. Jesus.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Spoilers - 7/8 of the seminalists last year were noble nine.

It's not like this has changed that much.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #089
If by best matches, you mean the noble nine always end up facing each other in the final matches every year, then yeah I guess its better matches.

Don't they in four ways too?
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If by best matches, you mean the noble nine always end up facing each other in the final matches every year, then yeah I guess its better matches.

No I mean that the most memorable/nail biter match will be better remembered as 1v1. Your example is why 4-ways is better on average.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

And the point is only the people here give a **** about the legitimacy of a video game popularity contest. Most GameFAQs users just want to see their favorites win and their least-favorites lose in exciting and amusing manners, and this is something four-ways does wonderfully.

What's really wrong with GameFAQs contests losing legitimacy?
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Last I remember, 4-ways "broke" the noble nine whereas in 1v1 that may never happen (maybe would with Sonic now).
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I would just like to point out for the record, that I don't care about legitimacy. I just think 1v1's are better, period. Please don't lump me in with the legitimacy people.
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KrahenProphet owned me in the Guru Contest by 39 votes! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

From: The Mana Sword | #094
Spoilers - 7/8 of the seminalists last year were noble nine.

It's not like this has changed that much.

It still gives non noble niners a chance to get there, though. Before, there was no way unless a non noble niner gets there unless a favorable path.
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