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I almost had that happen with RE4 > KH2!
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

The highest RBY % was off by like 16%. I think that match set some sort of record for that.

Maybe. I remember the consensus for Squall/Luigi was Luigi with 60%.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

To be fair, IT'S FREAKIN' MARIO'S BROTHER.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

There's no "fair" here, friend! To be fair, RBY was facing IT'S FREAKIN' ZELDA
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Which is why it should be on the most memorable matches list.

Heck Morrigan/Spyro created "wait until the kiddies wake up" and Aya/Terry Bogard created TJF.
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ZELDA no match for IT'S FREAKIN' POKEMON
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

Wait, Morrigan didn't create TJF?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Oh, speaking of which, Gordon Freeman/Tina Armstrong needs to be on there for starting the GFNW legacy, and Gordon/Phoenix for ending it.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Wait, Morrigan didn't create TJF?

Well it was Morrigan/Aya winning back to back, but mostly Aya.

"So a female fighting character from an unpopular series can win yet a male fighting character from a popular series can't?"
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Ah, I see.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

By the way, I want to slap 7.88% of our voters right now.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

Well at least half the voters know what's going on.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

How long does it usually take for the contest rankings to be finalized? I'm on pins and needles here!

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

Takes a week or two, I think. At 12th place you're pretty sure to get something. Probably only $50, but hey it's free money.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

There's always the chance I get in the Top 10 and don't get anything anyway. Knowing me, I made an error on the original form, or accidentally voted twice in one match.

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

Lopen'd
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

I don't get this 1v1 vs. 4way repetitive debate. We know it's just spurred on by the same few oddballs who put up odd straw man arguments. If they prefer 4ways they can go ahead and enjoy them, but we know 95% of the people find 1v1 much more exciting and interesting. The sports analogies are spot on - this is really just a sports thing after all, although perhaps more like a tennis match or one-on-one hoops than team sports.

Anyway, I don't know about you, but I sure as hell could do without ever hearing the term "LFF" again in my entire life.

It should also be likely that sballen is leaning towards bringing back 1v1 given the weaksauce vote totals of the last contest. He might need a little needling in terms of feedback tickets from people that reveal the masses believe 4ways blow chunks (we know he'll probably just ignore petitions so I wouldn't bother with those), but I think our chances of seeing 1v1 next time are very good.

As for 64 characters vs. 128 characters in an appeared in a vg contest - we could easily get all the strongest and most important characters in a 64 character bracket. Easily.

The only problem is the random fodder that keeps out strong characters (probably largely due to various caps in the past), not the character limit. Even with 128 characters there will be plenty of powerful entrants that would never make it, especially on the non-VG original character side. Things like X-Men or Star Wars would have depth that puts FF7 to shame.
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well you're at least one spot higher in line for prizes KP - thirteeneon wasn't my prize bracket.
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Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, KrahenProphet?
KrahenProphet: No, Donny. These men are cowards.

I have no faith in Bacon giving us a 1v1 contest anytime in the near future. The "evidence" about votals isn't going to be nearly enough to convince him and rarely, if ever, does he admit when he's wrong.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

Knowing me, I made an error on the original form, or accidentally voted twice in one match.

Welcome to my world!

Don't bother protesting it either!
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"Krahenprophet is lightning...the rain transformed."

I have no faith in Bacon giving us a 1v1 contest anytime in the near future. The "evidence" about votals isn't going to be nearly enough to convince him and rarely, if ever, does he admit when he's wrong.

I have no idea how often he admits when he's wrong, but a bunch of feedback tickets should be enough to tip the scales. He seems to listen to those, often choosing the poll of the day based on them and so on. As well as the 1v1 FF7 Ocarina final, which had the remote chance of invalidating the whole 4way contest. If people tell him what they really want he'll probably give it.
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By all means, give it a shot. Just don't expect him to be receptive to the idea.
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This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists?

Fictional Character Contest Petition
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=49917687

Please give it a read if interested.
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Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!

Who thinks that Total Annihilation, Warcraft II, Command and Conquer, or CNC Red Alert would have held up better than Kirby Super Star, Donkey Kong Country 2, Lufia II, or Suikoden? Actually:

Command and Conquer: Red Alert
Final Fantasy VII
Mario Kart 64
Star Fox 64

And I pick FF7 > CNC: RA because of the list, and then have to pay for it later.

command and conquer would lose to suikoden on gamefaqs

Warcraft 2 wouldn't of been fodder though. But wasn't Warcraft II from 1994? Or am I thinking wrong?
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Krahenprophet is my little butterfly!

I was wrong, it was 1995... It woulda been stronger then DKC2, Lufia 2 and Suikoden. Not sure about KSSS... but those other 3 games woulda been fodder. Kain from C&C being massacered by a fodder proves that point
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Krahenprophet is my little butterfly!

Hey, I'd rather have one of these games than one of the SFFd fourth place entrants in the division:

Warcraft II
Command and Conquer
Duke Nukem 3d
Quake
Diablo
Civilization II
Command and Conquer: Red Alert
Tomb Raider
Quake II
Star Wars: Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Fallout
Total Annihilation
Age of Empires

Of course, the only classic PC game that did well at all was Diablo II. It makes sense though, considering how fickle that game's fanbase is. I mean, beating Knights of the Old Republic, Fallout 2, StarCraft, Counter-Strike, and Ocarina of Time before almost beating Half-Life back in GameSpy's tourney was silly.

Fallout actually WAS in the contest originally. But Bacon let B8 make some requests with good reasoning to take games out, and Fallout was taken out for Donkey Kong Country 2.
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Krahenprophet is my little butterfly!

but we know 95% of the people find 1v1 much more exciting and interesting.

Jesus christ, just because a very minuscule amount of people really want 1V1 to happen (AKA people in this topic) does not mean the vast majority of the 100K+ voters do. Stop making up stats to try and prove a point.

Warcraft 2 wouldn't of been fodder though.

Warcraft 3 would be significantly weaker then Starcraft, and Warcraft 2 would be a hell of a lot weaker then WC3. There's only so much room you can put in between Starcraft and fodder games. WC2 would definitely be fodder.

And I pick FF7 > CNC: RA because of the list, and then have to pay for it later.

Red Alert would be lucky to get above 7% in that poll. Even if you put OoT in there instead of FFVII, RA would still finish last. This isn't a site for PC games.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Unfortinately, WC2 would be fodder, on account no one cares or remembers it much :/

Would it beat the likes of Monkey Island? Prolly, but not anything much higher though.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

In a fourway, it would lose to Monkey Island. Monkey Island has a small fanbase here, which is much more then what WC2 has.
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Good Times,
Great Memories

Id figure Warcraft II at least has name Recognition to get it by.

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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

Ms. Pac-Man has name recognition too, and what did that do for her?
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

I'd give WC2 more credit than that, though it would still be weak...and Ms. Pac-Man was against Mega Man, who I'm pretty sure smashed her.
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

Not much considering she went up against Mega Man.


Last I checked Monkey Island doesn't have anywhere near play rate or recognition Mega Man has.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

Talking of Monkey Island, that R1 match should be in the HoF. For the highest ever %age for SMB3 if not MI actually winning something.
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At last.

I was messing around with 2ch and I found a 7 year old thread advertising the final of Link Vs. Mario. Got tons of posts too. It was in favor of Link BTW.

OMG LINK'S VICTORY WAS BECAUSE OF RALLYING.

Hey it is the biggest community on the internet!
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A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.

It completely explains Samus doing better than Mario on Link.

curses
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KrahenProfit: a one-Guru wrecking crew.
He savagely abused my bracket.

From: The n00b Avenger | #487
I was messing around with 2ch and I found a 7 year old thread advertising the final of Link Vs. Mario. Got tons of posts too. It was in favor of Link BTW

I guess you could say that Link was...

made in Japan.
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Now this is entertainment!

Ms. Pac-Man has name recognition too, and what did that do for her?

I still think she was old school SFF by Mega Man, bring her back again and she'll be closer to Pac-Man.
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Congratulations to Krahenprophet for winning the guru contest

Hmm, seems as though the casuals are pretty weirded out by our "all fictional characters" suggestion. Looking over the names I don't recognize as B8ers from the petition topic, I see 7 signs, 1 neutral, and 6 anti-signs. But B8 seems to be fully behind it... If anything I was expecting the exact opposite- long time fans of the traditional Contests to turn up their noses at such an "out there" suggestion while those who don't care for tradition to picture Yoda vs The Joker / Batman vs Homer Simpson and jump at the chance.

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KrahenProphet is the King of the Gurus! All Hail!
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Frankly, anything that will shake up the usual "Link/Zelda/OoT/Nintendrone wins" malarky would be acceptable now.

I'd have voted for Darth Vader once upon a time, but then Lucas emasculated him so now he's not cool.
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Final Score:514 Guru Result 85th place.
Krahenprophet pwned my bracket. 85 times over.

So I just had this weird idea...

Bad contest matches come from matches where the characters aren't evenly matched in popularity and we know where the pendulum would swing, right? So I started thinking...we have four big categories of strength, right? Noble Niner/Near Elite/High Midcarder, Midcarder, Low Midcarder, and fodder. And fodder will ALWAYS make the contests, no matter how hard we try to keep them full of deserving entrants, right?

So, why not have each category duke it out in its lonesome? That is, instead of sticking the high midcarders and the Noble Nine against fodder, why not put our 16 strongest characters in one division, our next best 16 midcarders in the next one, the guys at Gordon's/Duke's level in a third one, and the fodder in the fourth one? Wouldn't that make for a good bracket? You'd mostly have even strengths, which would make it a beast to predict, but it wouldn't be because of some sort of fluke like it happens with fourways sometimes. What does everyone else think?

PS: Obviously, Clinkeroth would be removed from this bracket, since they're like a fifth tier. Those three would get a ToC like in 2k5 where the winner of the normal contest goes and gets creamed by them.

No, NO, NO. Bad contests do not result from having too great a gap between character strengths- contests are supposed to decide that in the first place. Contests NEED a variety of results, that is, some close matches, some Ulti-style blowouts, some true blowouts. Or else, the matches become meaningless and no one will care about close matches anymore- because the contest is fixed on a fundamental level. Fixing the contest like that would make it completely boring, even if you managed to increase the number of close matches.

I'm not even sure if you would, because matches we peg to be close rarely ever are. For example, if you get something like the Nintendo Boost in 2005, all your close matches suddenly turn into easy wins for Nintendo. Bad contests result from too much SFF. Just minimize the number of SFF matches, and a good contest with many interesting matches and with some luck many close matches will result.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

Why don't we have a cap on Nintendo characters/games? Do we really need a field that's 1/4, Nintendo?

Yah, that idea will never fly.
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Final Score:514 Guru Result 85th place.
Krahenprophet pwned my bracket. 85 times over.

And the reasons why SFF matches are boring:

1. Characters with the same fanbase usually have very similar trends. So big comebacks are out, and the match is usually over in the first 15 minutes.

2. Characters with the same fanbase tend to gain or lose strength together- so an SFF match is almost always obvious, and we are very rarely wrong.

3. Usually, if you like one of the characters in an SFF match, you'll like the other too. There isn't as much reason to care about the match.

4. The loser's strength gets hidden by the match, so we never get to really see how he did in the contest. How strong was Samus in 2005? We'll never know for sure, and it must have sucked for Samus fans to have a contest end for her like that.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

Goodbye, Best Game Ever 2009!
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95% of matches are over within the first hour... (Guesstimate)
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Final Score:514 Guru Result 85th place.
Krahenprophet pwned my bracket. 85 times over.

Okay, I get what you mean. Too many close matches and upsets in a row make the results meaningless (That's what happened with 2008's first division, right?). However, the problem is that blowouts are, basically, dead weight. Maybe I'm wrong, but from where I see it, they only work as a way to get everyone to relax after an upset or a close match.

Hmm...come to think about it, that might be what makes a good contest. What would your good-match-to-boring-match ratio be? Maybe it's all just about finding the right number of relaxing matches to slap on the bracket between close ones.

I think I agree with that. I need some nice, relaxing, matches to build up hype for Mario vs. Crono 5!
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