GameFAQs Contests

Good job from Bacon making a 1v1 bonus match. There are no excuses for FF7 now; Ocarina of Time is just better.


~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!

Yay for my favorite game of my youth.
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Game of the Decade Contest next year. I'm in.
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Dude, it's Part 750.

750 topics, and we've just finished our... 11th contest.

Victories by Link/OoT/Zelda series (including ToC): 7 (5 excluding ToC, though Mario/Samus winning means Nintendo is still 7 overall regardless)
Victories by Cloud/Sephiroth/FF7: 3
Victories by some random Tetris block: 1

Overall, I'm satisfied with Nintendo dominating over half the contests. Here's hoping they can get a solid 2/3's majority so they can pass amendments to the GameFAQs ToS!
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

Maybe some day OoT and FFVII will be out of all the contest since they always crush every thing anyway.

According to the patterns, if FF7 and Link aren't involved, Nintendo still wins.

Of course, another four-way games contest should favor FFX unless generations are nixed and FFX and MGS4 end up on opposite sides of the bracket. Kinda hard to imagine even RBY or Brawl fighting off LttP and SMB3/W/64 to beat FFX in a final.
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Brawl did well for me, but not enough to net me the Guru win over Krahenprophet, so kudos to him.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/data/585960.html

Hey, Tetris was published by Nintendo too!

8/11. I wonder what amendments Nintendo will come up with.
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My bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147
Krahenprophet's superior bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=199

hard to imagine even RBY or Brawl fighting off LttP and SMB3/W/64 to beat FFX in a final.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504
Ditch OoT for aLttP, and RBY will probably go up a fair bit. Even if you swap SSBM for SMB3/W/64, I think RBY might still make a run at FFX.
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KrahenProphet, he come to town! Come to win the GameFAQs Contest!
Congrats to KrahenProphet on winning the Best Game Ever 2009 Guru Contest!

Finally over 44%.
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Well, the way I see it games still has the intrigue of who's #3-10. The only thing left for characters is where Snake is in the Noble 9 (yeah for realz not four way bandwagoned shenanigans) and how much the bottom 3 NNers can embarrass themselves. And yeah, 1v1 would be nice.
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Should I start running now?

Never, never forget...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3470

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25 Meeks54. Ocarina of Time



This was a triumph.

Congratulations.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

OOT by the hour:

Time | Yesterday | Today

1:00 | 55.70% | 56.38%
2:00 | 53.38% | 55.17%

Abandon all hope of Square ever winning anything ever again.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

Thank you Red Sox.



So, top 10, anyone even want to try it?

We know 1 and 2 pretty concrete, but after that, I have no confidence in anything (though I am standing fast at RBY at 3).

From: Meeks54 | Posted: 6/9/2009 1:57:53 AM | #012
25 Meeks54. Ocarina of Time



This was a triumph.

Congrats. You might win something if a bunch of people did favorites.
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KrahenProphet lives up to his name. Congrats on winning!

I want to see how close FFVII can end up getting first. I think that tier 2 I was talking about has completely disappeared though- just one huge tier from 3 to 20, and probably no gaps of even moderate size after that even.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

no idea cuz of no updater, but was that a cut? big percentage swing
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Yes, FFVII cut 2 votes.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

http://24.61.9.146/poll3509.txt

Apronsef made us an updator a while ago.

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Kahenprophet lived up to his name.

Oh thanks, never saw that
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Krahenprophet is my little butterfly!

SAVE_US.FF7REMAKE
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The Gamer In Me
And that's the bottom line, because KrahenProphet said so.

I will try to take my best shot at this, but honestly, alot of guessing and adjusting here, this is going to look HORRIBLE.



1 Ocarina of Time
2 Final Fantasy VII
3 Pokemon RBY
4 Brawl
5 ALttP
6 SM 64
7 CT
8 SMW
9 Melee
10 FF X (I have to have it at least top 10, but I have a tough time seeing it taking 11 to be honest)
11 SMB 3
12 TP
13 KH II
14 FF VIII
15 MGS 4
16 KH
17 RE 4 (12 through 17 can literally go any order, as long as MGS 4 is ahead of RE 4)
18 Goldeneye
19 LoZ
20 MGS



God, so much of that seems off. Do we really go 15 deep before leaving Nintendo and Square?

Does SMRPG or GSC deserve to be there over others?

Well, it seems that Zelda 64 got about 77.32% on Zelda 3. Based just on that Zelda 3 loses to Brawl. Uhm...

Final Fantasy VII kept about 97.16% of its votes from last round. For the first time it didn't increase its votal. Who's stronger: Final Fantasy VI or Final Fantasy X?

Zelda: A Link to the Past kept about 59.29% of its votes from last round. Seriously, I never imagined that it would really get SFFd a whole lot by Zelda 64 after seeing Mario World hold up against Mario 3, but nope. The only explanation I have for it is that this site is caring less and less about 2d games. And while I already said it, Zelda 3 is projected to lose to Brawl indirectly. What the hell?

Zelda: Ocarina of Time kept about 108.33% of its votes from last round. Wow, it increased again. It seems that being able to SFF a game actually nets you more votals, for some reason. I still find it funny that Zelda 64 got a higher percentage in this match than in its own divisional finals. C'mon, was it really THAT much of a relief to be free of Pokemon and Smash hanging around?

Final Fantasy X kept about 55.89% of its votes from last round. As I guessed, it took the biggest hit between this match and last match, but man it was bad. Of course, that's what it deserves, having to get through so much SFF to get here. I think it even got to round 5 only because Melee LFFd Pokemon, and then only here because Zelda 64 SFFd Brawl. Either that, or MGS and FF8 both hurt each other and...darn it, I can't find the evidence to support MGS > FFX!

1. Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Round 6)
1. Final Fantasy VII (Round 3)
2. Final Fantasy VII (Round 5)
3. Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Round 5)
4. Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Round 4)
5. Final Fantasy VII (Round 6)
5. Final Fantasy VII (Round 4)
6. Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Round 3)
7. Zelda: A Link to the Past (Round 3)
8. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Round 3)
9. Super Mario Bros. (Round 3)
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee (Round 3)
11. Zelda: Twilight Princess (Round 3)
12. The Legend of Zelda (Round 3)
13. Final Fantasy VI (Round 3)
14. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Round 3)
15. Super Mario World (Round 3)
16. Super Mario World (Round 4)
17. Final Fantasy X (Round 3)
18. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Round 4)
19. The Legend of Zelda (Round 4)
20. Metal Gear Solid 4 (Round 3)
21. Final Fantasy X (Round 4)
22. Metal Gear Solid 4 (Round 4)
23. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Round 4)
24. Resident Evil 4 (Round 3)
25. Metal Gear Solid 3 (Round 3)
26. Super Mario 64 (Round 3)
27. Super Mario 64 (Round 4)
28. Pokemon Red/Blue (Round 3) (TIE)
29. Zelda: Twilight Princess (Round 4) (TIE)
30. Chrono Trigger (Round 3)
31. Zelda: A Link to the Past (Round 5)
32. Final Fantasy X (Round 5)
33. Kingdom Hearts (Round 3)
34. Resident Evil 4 (Round 4)
35. Pokemon Red/Blue (Round 4)
36. Metal Gear Solid (Round 3)
37. Oblivion (Round 3)
38. Metal Gear Solid 4 (Round 5)
39. Fallout 3 (Round 3)
40. Final Fantasy IV (Round 3)
41. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Round 5)
42. Final Fantasy VIII (Round 3)
43. Diablo II (Round 3)
44. Call of Duty 4 (Round 3)
45. Super Mario World (Round 5)
46. Super Metroid (Round 3)
47. GoldenEye (Round 3)
48. Super Smash Bros. Melee (Round 4)
49. Tetris (Round 3)
50. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Round 5)
51. Final Fantasy VI (Round 4)
52. Zelda: A Link to the Past (Round 6)
52. Sonic the Hedgehog (Round 3)
53. Mega Man 2 (Round 3)
54. Final Fantasy X (Round 6)
54. Zelda: Link’s Awakening (Round 3)
55. Super Mario Bros. (Round 4)

I understand the numbers are a bit jumbled up, but I didn't feel like re-adjusting them. The only ones that are tied (WTF?) are Round 3 Pokemon and Round 4 Twilight Princess.

Looks good except MGS is too low. It should be right with FFX, preferably above it as it did better against OOT.
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Krahenprophet he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

SAVE_US.FF7REMAKE

yes please

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There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on

I tried to make a list, but we don't have enough data and I kept falling into pitstops. Mainly Pokemon and the NES games were a pain in the butt.

And I still think Super Metroid is stronger than Super Mario RPG.

We are 4k votes over what we had at this time yesterday.
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So, I believe this lends quite a bit of credence to my 3 year old theory that had OoT and FF VII met in the finals, instead of the Regional Finals OoT would have won. Zelda overperforms like crazy in Championship matches, and FF VII absolutely crumbles.

Examples of Zelda going nuts in the Finals

2002 (poor Mario)
2004 (poor Cloud)
2005 Villains
2005 ToC
2006 Best Series Ever
2006 BR
2008 (4 Links outdrew the Final)
2009 BGE

Examples of FF VII falling off the face of the Earth in the Finals

2003 (Cloud underperformed on Sephiroth)
2004 BGE (Chrono Trigger overperformed like crazy)
2004 (Cloud just withering to Link)
2005 Villians (Seph choking hard)
2006 Best Series Ever
2006 BR (5 days of being owned, when he was supposed to keep it close)
2007 Losing to Link and the Block
2008 Losing to Snake
2009 BGE (Could not take advantage of ALttP being there, and got obliterated by OoT)



So yeah, I don't think you can have a turnaround this big in 5 years, the Finals just effect these two games/series wildly differently.

OoT/Zelda is our new champion. Let all hope now fade away.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3508&region=ASI

Asia gettin' it right again

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lol a sff'd FFX still beats Ocarina of time
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Taken from a topic, but more stats oriented than anything else.

OoT vs LoZ vs 2006 Link and 2008 Link.



For the longest time I figured LoZ was the strongest combatant ever, then 2008 Link was able to get more votes in a joke bonus match than Cloud, Crono, and Snake were able to produce in the Championship.

Now we have OoT smoking FF VII much worse than LoZ was ever able to do to FF.


So who is the strongest?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3508&region=PH

lol a sff'd FFX beats both Zeldas combined
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Yes because Asia has best and most diverse taste when it comes to games /sarcasm.
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Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

52. Sonic the Hedgehog (Round 3)
53. Mega Man 2 (Round 3)


As it should be.
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Based on yesterday's figures, FFVII would finish about a percent lower today. What an embarrassment, and honestly, I find it hard to believe that this is predominantly Ocarina growing these last five years (because another re-release on the Virtual Console wouldn't manage that). If we're going to point the blame here, point it at Square for not remaking FFVII and doing nothing big/exciting/acclaimed with the FF series since 2001.
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it has everything to do with Square's absolute fall from grace. it's going to take FF13 to put this back on the map. Square has been dead for a lot of people since it merged with Enix.

that was in like 2001 or 2002.
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OCARINA OF TIME I HATE YOU but Krakenprophet knows what's up

And of course, another reason might be FFVII's own elusiveness. It's been like $60+ used for over three years now. Very few new voters even had the opportunity to play FFVII unless they were doing it via emulators. Ocarina is available in four different forms, one of which being a $10 download. There's only so long something can stay popular if more and more people don't even have the opportunity to experience it.
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Watch and you'll see... Krahenprophet pwn me... in the Guru Contest!

I hope TRE is tracking poll updates, because I sent an email to creativename a few hours ago and I guess it will take a while for him to get online. I was tracking poll updates manually, but then I decided to restart my computer right after the poll updated again, knowing that I'd be able to get back online in less than 3 or 4 minutes to track the next update. But it turns out that my computer completed died out on me, leaving me unable to connect to the internet on that one. I spent a few hours figuring how to get my laptop connected to the internet, and I succeeded.
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Looks like FF7 is making small cuts, although I havent been tracking .

Now I've been tracking again since I got back on. When I got on, the lead was at 2818 and now it's down to 2601.
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Yay, the updater's back!

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3509&sort=time&type=ASC&num=2

Thanks creative!
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I gotta stop getting sucked into troll topics. So much wasted time....

Thought for sure FFVII on PSN would push it over the top this contest.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

Are we insane?


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How many even got it for PSP? not a lot. OoT was released on VC during a time when wii had **** to play and straight after TP release. Obviously OoT's fanbase grew even more.
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Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

You don't just have to have a PSP to play it. You can play it on your PS3 as well. And i forgot about OoT being available to download on the Wii. I had a Wii for about a year and sold it.
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Wall to Kentucky. Sig changed (:

Yay, the updater's back!

Anyone who had been tracking updates since before the 6:01 update should send them to creativename so they can be manually added.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/9/2009 2:14:08 AM | message detail
http://24.61.9.146/poll3509.txt

Apronsef made us an updator a while ago.

Excellent. creativename can use that to manually add in updates before his updater started tracking updates for this match.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
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Well after today forget clinkeroth,because now it's all about LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNK!!!!

LLLLLLIIIIIIIIIINNNNNKKKK!
He CURBSTOMPS the competition,He's a freakin CONTEST MONSTER!
wanna know why he's so popular ,it's because he's greeeeeeeeeeeeen,you know what that means don't you,he's greeeeen,so all the irish people are going to vote for him,and that means all the american descendants of the irish imigrants.
He's also the color of MONEY!So all capitalists will vote for him as he bribes everyone to KIIIIIIIILLLLL,those in his way to another title.
All my irish friends vote for link,except when snake is involved cos they believe him to have anciant irish roots to explain how badass he is.

And you know what else,Link Is an ELF!you know who else is one Orlando Bloom,so if yo thought fangirls voted for pretty boy cloud well you were WRONG!
Link gets the lord of the rings vote AND the celtic myth vote AND the Irish-american vote AND the Fangirls AND the money vote.

LIIIINK,he'll frekin killl everything that dares to contest his throne,he has achieved THE GRAND SLAM OF GAMEFAQS CONTESTS!

You Think that'll change someday well now the truth will be revealed,the answer is NO!
Because if FFVII:RE gets announced link will just tell Miyamoto with his psychic powers:jya,kyo wa ore no atarashi gaimu wa dokodesuka?and once miyamoto gets frightened Zeldawii will be announced with a bigger trailer thus making link the immortal god of Gamefaqs contests!

Yeah LINK=GOD=God of Doom(for his opponents).
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455