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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 749

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/8/2009 12:01:03 PM | message detail
I'm turning on OoT right here! And it's my favorite game!

If fans are smart enough to bury FFX and LttP this far underground, I think they're smart enough to realize that tomorrow's match is meaningless and they may as well just goof around a little. Unfortunately, even said goofing around and a board-led rally shouldn't be enough to turn this one, especially when the next few hours will probably look bad.

However, if FFVII eeks out a win, I still call Ocarina the stronger game. An unadvertised, surprise bonus match doesn't strike me as legitimate.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/8/2009 12:01:54 PM | message detail
The vote totals for the DSV timeframe were weekend-esque, for what it's worth. A lot higher than a normal weekday match gets.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 12:02:25 PM | message detail
However, if FFVII eeks out a win, I still call Ocarina the stronger game. An unadvertised, surprise bonus match doesn't strike me as legitimate.

man I hope FFVII it just for the constant debates we're gonna have if its legit
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:03:19 PM | message detail
Meaningless? I think pretty much everyone will think of it as a grand final, because whatever Bacon may think, the vast majority of this site knows perfectly well that 4-ways are not as legitimate as 1v1s.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/8/2009 12:03:24 PM | message detail
Looking at the BSV this morning, the first hour of the diluted ASV could be rough, I think FFVII will be okay after that.

The morning vote is good for FFVII though. The ASV isn't. You can't look at morning and afternoon trends for FF games. They ALWAYS do well in the morning and almost always do poorly with the ASV.

An unadvertised, surprise bonus match doesn't strike me as legitimate.

You dare question the legitimacy of Solano > Link?!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/8/2009 12:03:58 PM | message detail
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:05:38 PM | message detail
The morning vote is good for FFVII though. The ASV isn't. You can't look at morning and afternoon trends for FF games. They ALWAYS do well in the morning and almost always do poorly with the ASV.

No, what I meant is that it did worse in 6-7 than 7-9. This falls in line with what we've seen with the ASV recently- that is, a lot of East coast schools seem to still be in session, whereas the Central and Mountain time zones aren't contributing much to the ASV anymore.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/8/2009 12:06:11 PM | message detail
I think you're overanalyzing this a bit.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:15:10 PM | message detail
Anyway, after the GOTY final 1v1 poll, and this, I think Bacon may be coming around to the idea that 1v1s are more interesting. Hopefully (probably) we'll get more votes tomorrow than today, which should really make Bacon think twice about the format.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 12:19:18 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #109
Anyway, after the GOTY final 1v1 poll, and this, I think Bacon may be coming around to the idea that 1v1s are more interesting. Hopefully (probably) we'll get more votes tomorrow than today, which should really make Bacon think twice about the format.


I don't think he's coming around to it, people just asked for it. And what other possible bonus match could there have been, anyway?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/8/2009 12:19:23 PM | message detail
I dunno how many votes we'll get tomorrow if it's just FFVII vs. OoT again. SSBB/MGS4 one-on-one got fewer votes than the three-way before, and the fact that it was essentially the same match minus one contender probably turned some people off.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 12:22:37 PM | message detail
Didn't we get like almost 160k for that Link bonus match?
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:23:19 PM | message detail
And yet Link vs. Link vs. Link vs. Link got more votes than Link vs. Snake vs. Cloud vs. Crono. Link/Cloud 2006 also killed Link/Cloud/Snake badly in votals.

Maybe that just means MWC is right, and Link is just that strong.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:25:19 PM | message detail
Not much change happening with the "ASV" today so far. Keep it up, FFVII.
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 12:29:02 PM | message detail
I hope we never get a company contest,I can see nintendo winning the final match whilst having wii sport/fit/music/play/resort as it's match pics and in the end the next strongest company will get 22% on it.
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Smurf Alt | Posted 6/8/2009 12:34:32 PM | message detail
If FFVII wins I'm going to roll with the theory that the OoT fanbase will vote their game over anything and LttP had to live off scraps, getting no help from the core Zelda fans. There's just something not right with the 3rd or 4th strongest game in the contest down at 11%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:38:57 PM | message detail
There's something really wrong with OOT at 40% today when it couldn't manage 39% against RBY/MGS/FFVIII. I think there's a core anti-FFVII fanbase, which is pretty much a 100% hardcore, static, fanbase that always votes for whichever game has the best chance of taking out FFVII, if such a game exists.
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 12:51:26 PM | message detail
Anti-FFVII on the x-stats is probably worth 25% on FFVII these days.
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KrahenProphet | Posted 6/8/2009 12:52:21 PM | message detail
It would be cool if we got a poll after this the asks something like, "How did you pick who to vote for in the final match?"

a. I actually voted for my favorite game.
b. I didn't want to see FFVII win (anti-voted)
c. I didn't want to see OoT win
d. I voted for the Zelda game with the best chance (series voted)
e. I voted for the FF game with the best chance
f. Voted just to make things more even (balance vote)
g. Voted for the loser (joke vote)
h. Didn't vote

... or something along those lines. I'd be curious to see how real the anti-FFVII vote is, among other things.
Silver Shadow X | Posted 6/8/2009 12:56:21 PM | message detail
And yet Link vs. Link vs. Link vs. Link got more votes than Link vs. Snake vs. Cloud vs. Crono. Link/Cloud 2006 also killed Link/Cloud/Snake badly in votals.

Maybe that just means MWC is right, and Link is just that strong.


You kidding? Was it some sort of Link from various Zeldas match or something?
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 12:57:27 PM | message detail
Classic Link (meaning OOT Adult Link) vs. CD-I Link vs. Young Link vs. Toon Link
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 1:06:29 PM | message detail
Ah, it looks like I was wrong, Link/Cloud 2006 did beat Link/Cloud/Snake, but it didn't kill it. It did, however, destroy Link/Cloud/Snake/Sephiroth in votals. The 5 days of the battle royale went as follows:

Link/Cloud/Sephiroth/Snake/Mario/Samus - 159,347
Link/Cloud/Sephiroth/Snake/Mario - 141,969
Link/Cloud/Sephiroth/Snake - 135,555
Link/Cloud/Snake - 151,369
Link/Cloud - 152,360
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/8/2009 1:25:04 PM | message detail
Actually, FFVII can win tomorrow. This is an unimpressive performance from OoT because FFVII is being drained by FFX and LTTP. OoT is the only recent game in the poll that isn't FFX.

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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 1:28:52 PM | message detail
Continuing with the FFVII hype, there are only 2 fanbases on Gamefaqs. Those who hate FFVII, and those who don't. OOT is getting 100% of the Anti-FFVII fanbase today, therefore, LTTP and FFX must be Not Anti-FFVII Fanbase LFFing with FFVII.

If someone voted for LTTP today, this proves 2 things about them:

1. They are not part of the Anti-FFVII fanbase whose #1 priority is to see FFVII fall no matter what.
2. They are not part of the core Nintendo fanbase that falls in line for the good of Nintendo.

They may as well be FFVII fans!
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Silver Shadow X | Posted 6/8/2009 1:29:40 PM | message detail
^so you're saying that LttP voters favor FF7. What the hell, seriously. I can't agree with that, but I guess we may see.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 6/8/2009 1:29:56 PM | message detail
If someone voted for LttP today, that proves one thing about them:

They are awesome.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/8/2009 1:31:29 PM | message detail
^so you're saying that LttP voters favor FF7. What the hell, seriously. I can't agree with that, but I guess we may see.

It was a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if today's LTTP voters split much more evenly than the FFX voters though.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 6/8/2009 1:32:05 PM | message detail
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2009 1:32:31 PM | message detail
Aw yeah LttP voters

No question who gets my vote tomorrow!
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Silver Shadow X | Posted 6/8/2009 1:34:08 PM | message detail
my post was directed at hochiminhX's comment
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 1:52:52 PM | message detail
The main problem with this "Fictional Character Battle" is that most of the people doing noms will be all excited about these fictional characters, and most of the bracket is gonna be full of them, except for just the most elite video game characters. We might have like 20 total video game characters; 5 FF7 characters, 5 from top Nintendo, and 10 leftover including the likes of Crono, Snake, Mega Man, and Sonic. Do we really need a bracket where random naruto character #32 gets in over characters like Dante and Auron?
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 2:05:29 PM | message detail
if we give anti-FFVII an estimated power,where does it fall in line on the x-stats?
surely it's a lot stronger than mere fodder.
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neonreaper | Posted 6/8/2009 2:06:38 PM | message detail
3 contests in a row on the final leaderboard, can the streak continue..!
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Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2009 2:09:55 PM | message detail
Sorry, can't see your argument for the facts in the way. LoZ > FF.

LoZ *barely* beat FF in the middle of crazy Twilight Princess hype. Remove the hype and FF easily wins. Twilight Princess might help LoZ make up some ground, but it likely would not be enough.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/8/2009 2:13:56 PM | message detail
If it's an all fictional character thing I can see Bacon reserving 32 slots for game characters.

If he does something like that and does divisions by medium, though...
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Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2009 2:28:30 PM | message detail
If he does something like that and does divisions by medium, though...

I actually like this idea if there has to be a mix of game and non-game characters.

I imagine if 1 vs. 1 it would go:

Division 1: Video Games
Division 2: Movies
Division 3: Comic Books/Manga
Division 4: Misc.

Or if, 4 ways.

Divisions 1+2: Video Games
Division 3: Animated Film/Television
Division 4: Live Action Film/Television
Division 5: Comic Books
Division 6: Anime/Manga
Division 7: Literature
Division 8: Misc.

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HaRRicH | Posted 6/8/2009 2:29:03 PM | message detail
LoZ *barely* beat FF in the middle of crazy Twilight Princess hype. Remove the hype and FF easily wins. Twilight Princess might help LoZ make up some ground, but it likely would not be enough.

Hype's an easy excuse to hide behind when it was well-received -- look at how it did on SSBB and RE4, two other recent mega-titles. Hype is nice, as Solid Snake established...but having a release only establishes more dominance. Look at what Solid Snake and SSBB has done; Solid led Cloud for forty-eight hours straight and SSBB looks stronger than SSBM despite being a year old...and you may even be able to credit it to recent Nintendo dominance to a degree.

Anyway, given everything else I said, LoZ:TP-hype isn't going be more important than the rest of that.
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 2:30:16 PM | message detail
on a fictional character contest,there'll be so many badasses and musclemen,i'll have to watch kyo ani stuff for a month to tell myself not everyone on the street is a super badass.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 2:32:53 PM | message detail
divisions 5 and 6 would be stacked
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Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 6/8/2009 2:34:43 PM | message detail
If there were a fictional character contest separating the divisions like that would make it lame. Mix them all together for maximum fun.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 2:35:24 PM | message detail
If they did seperate them, and there was a literature division, Harry Potter would rip that apart till proven to be the fraud he is once he faces the big boys
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 2:40:37 PM | message detail
i'm willing to bet that if we had fiction contest,most would be dark and edgy,yes i have a problem with that,too much of a good thing makes me want to puke.
If i was a massive zelda fan,the joy of seeing link kick cloud's ass in these would turn to bleurgh.
I almost did that when chelsea nearly won 3 titles in a row and i freaking love them.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2009 2:41:10 PM | message detail
If they did seperate them, and there was a literature division, Harry Potter would rip that apart till proven to be the fraud he is once he faces the big boys

More like Lord of the Rings rips it apart. Or James Bond too, if he's placed there.

Although Harry would still have a good shot at making it out, due to massive LOTR leeching in the Div. Finals most likely. Plus he has a legit shot at being second in the Division anyway.

I would love to see how advances out of the Misc. Division though.

All aboard the Zeus > Strong Bad train!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/8/2009 2:43:14 PM | message detail
I wonder if God and Jesus would be in it
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MetricTrout | Posted 6/8/2009 2:47:52 PM | message detail
Jesus? Well, 75% of the vote is American, and about 80% of Americans are Christian. Plus, 40% of the rest of the world is Christian.

So Jesus gets a guaranteed .8 * .75 + .4 * .25 = 70% of the votes in every match. Plus, nothing can SFF Jesus.

In short, Jesus would make Link look like Tanner.
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 2:48:45 PM | message detail
oh watch gamefaqs get shutdown the second jesus vs muhammed is announced,
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voltch | Posted 6/8/2009 2:49:24 PM | message detail
wait,jesus vs muhammed can't happen in a fictio contest unless.......ooh whole can of worms opened.
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jonthomson | Posted 6/8/2009 2:49:41 PM | message detail
nothing more to say other than lol ff7.

once my beloved starcraft got killed too early, there was little more to care about. these four-way matches make things dull, the lack of a definitive "x is better than y" result sucks
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/8/2009 2:53:19 PM | message detail
Well, another contest over and should be a boring offseason with nothing to really discuss. Probably will be another fall character battle, but who cares at this point?

At any rate, will be interesting to see if tomorrow's result is any different from todays.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2009 2:56:11 PM | message detail
Archie
Batman
The Hulk
Venom

Dr. Manhattan
The Joker
Magneto
Storm

Iron Man
Robin
Super Man
Wolverine

Spider-Man
Professor Xavier
Tintin
Wonder Woman

Damn, that is stacked.

At least all the boring comic book characters will have been gotten out of the way here.
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